Ubisoft why

[Mr. Schizophrenic]

so lets get this clear, Ubisoft makes gay / trans operators in game and has time to write all of that lore which is stupid and I think that gender and sexuallity don't belong in games, At the same time Ubisoft chooses to ignore bigger issues in game but instead of addressing them they go ahead and write stupid lore for operators , all news article in the past week have been basically saying one thing and one thing only ''Siege's new trans operator'' like why is that even necessary? When it was first announced that the Year 3 op was gonna be Croatian I'm sure a lot of us people from the Croatian community were very excited because we don't get much representation anywhere and nobody really knows much about our country because we are a small nation and we taught this would bring some good news to our community but instead what we got was 0 attention and everyone just focusing on the fact that the operator was trans. Really good job Ubisoft , there is almost nothing you didn't manage to ♥♥♥♥ up.

[Copy & Cat]

Character nationality doesn't mean anything anymore just like they dropped pretending to care about CTUs and everything is made up now, it's about selling diversity really. They said that in their AMA, that realism had to step back to force their vision through and that diversity was more important than most other aspects. Don't think they handled that well and will be able to handle in the future

[MrLupus]

Because a lot of gamers (humans in general actually) are still stupidly homophobic and pathetically terrified of trans people, scared out of their wits as if they pose some kind of threat to anything, that's why. I believe your post kind of proves their point tbh, that shoving this in your face hoping you'll grow used to it and mature a little as a person is actually necessary, because if "nobody cares about lore" then why do you so obviously care the moment someone's either trans or gay?

Also, every other operator has their traits, their own distinctiveness, and some kind of lore attached to them also (not that I ever read that nonsense because I genuinely don't care), realism is long gone in fact you won't find much of that in video games either and that's a good thing because being shot at is very unfun, so why are you flaming up over this?

[Mistah Haskins]

Originally posted by MrLupus:

Because a lot of gamers (humans in general actually) are still stupidly homophobic and pathetically terrified of trans people, scared out of their wits as if they pose some kind of threat to anything, that's why. I believe your post kind of proves their point tbh, that shoving this in your face hoping you'll grow used to it and mature a little as a person is actually necessary, because if "nobody cares about lore" then why do you so obviously care the moment someone's either trans or gay?

Also, every other operator has their traits, their own distinctiveness, and some kind of lore attached to them also (not that I ever read that nonsense because I genuinely don't care), realism is long gone in fact you won't find much of that in video games either and that's a good thing because being shot at is very unfun, so why are you flaming up over this?

This has nothing to do with him being homophobic in any way! Its the fact that Ubisoft is prioritizing the fact their new addition to Siege is trans meanwhile neglecting issues that have yet to be addressed! It's people like you who think these things matter, OP is more than in his rights to be disappointed in Ubisoft's poor decision making when it came to his country of origin. Added no lore that meant anything meanwhile others have lore that pertain to their countries, makes no sense to do that!

Also, You saying games cannot be realistic which just doesn't include R6 (Which hasn't been realistic since Amaru could grapple in a straight line into windows without any gravity affecting them) is far from being true and that could be to the fact you never play any games apart from Arcade type shooters like Siege.

You have Squad which is very realistic in terms of gun-play, vehicles weak-points and targeting and even includes lobby based VOIP across both teams to hear each other as it was a real battle. Need another? Hell Let Loose: A WW2 Realistic shooter that is probably the closest thing we have to a realistic shooter in that Era and the same thing could be said to Squad which we also have Arma.

So no, you make absolutely no sense and basically just twisted the OPs words to make your point come across as right! Which you aren't right at all but go off I guess.

[twunny phaiv]

Originally posted by Chad:

so lets get this clear, Ubisoft makes gay / trans operators in game and has time to write all of that lore which is stupid and I think that gender and sexuallity don't belong in games, At the same time Ubisoft chooses to ignore bigger issues in game

you do realize the writers aren't in charge of game design/programming tasks right...?

[MrLupus]

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

This has nothing to do with him being homophobic in any way! Its the fact that Ubisoft is prioritizing the fact their new addition to Siege is trans meanwhile neglecting issues that have yet to be addressed! It's people like you who think these things matter, OP is more than in his rights to be disappointed in Ubisoft's poor decision making when it came to his country of origin. Added no lore that meant anything meanwhile others have lore that pertain to their countries, makes no sense to do that!

Is it the inclusion of trans people that are causing them to ignore these issues, or were they ignored long before any of the operators were trans? Do you think making this operator trans, comes at the expense of other issues?

Dude that's just silly, come on. If so the same could be argued for every operator now couldn't it? If you said "Stop making new operators until you've fixed what we have" I could have respected that opinion, but what you're saying is "Stop making operators trans until you've fixed what we have" and that's just...

Yeah it actually gets sillier the more I think about it XD

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

Also, You saying games cannot be realistic which just doesn't include R6 (Which hasn't been realistic since Amaru could grapple in a straight line into windows without any gravity affecting them) is far from being true and that could be to the fact you never play any games apart from Arcade type shooters like Siege.

You mistake "realistic" with "authentic", and no video games just like movies they are never realistic best you can hope for is enough autheticity to achieve a certain suspension of disbelief, enough so to stay immersed and invested.

But no, no shooter will ever be realistic and you want to know how you can tell? Because you're not pissing your pants or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yourself the moment a bullet rips through you that's how, or going deaf for that matter whenever something explodes near you plus all the other unpleasant effects that comes with actual reality.

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

You have Squad which is very realistic in terms of gun-play, vehicles weak-points and targeting and even includes lobby based VOIP across both teams to hear each other as it was a real battle. Need another? Hell Let Loose: A WW2 Realistic shooter that is probably the closest thing we have to a realistic shooter in that Era and the same thing could be said to Squad which we also have Arma.

So no, you make absolutely no sense and basically just twisted the OPs words to make your point come across as right! Which you aren't right at all but go off I guess.

I've played them all quite a lot actually and the original Operation Flashpoint too, and yeah they're more geared towards authenticity definitely. But realistic? No, they're still just video games, quite clunky ones too even very limited in many ways, and even if that wasn't true then video games just like movies can only simulate so much.

But yeah I think I got you pegged now. You have issues with gays and trans people but pretend you don't, by justifying your reactions in ways that simply doesn't make any sense whatsoever, because probably deep down inside you know how stupid these hangups are. And also you should get out more because you've grown so detached from reality you think what you're seeing on that screen of yours actually resembles it.

Gotcha, glhf ^^

[Mistah Haskins]

Originally posted by MrLupus:

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

This has nothing to do with him being homophobic in any way! Its the fact that Ubisoft is prioritizing the fact their new addition to Siege is trans meanwhile neglecting issues that have yet to be addressed! It's people like you who think these things matter, OP is more than in his rights to be disappointed in Ubisoft's poor decision making when it came to his country of origin. Added no lore that meant anything meanwhile others have lore that pertain to their countries, makes no sense to do that!

Is it the inclusion of trans people that are causing them to ignore these issues, or were they ignored long before any of the operators were trans? Do you think making this operator trans, comes at the expense of other issues?

Dude that's just silly, come on. If so the same could be argued for every operator now couldn't it? If you said "Stop making new operators until you've fixed what we have" I could have respected that opinion, but what you're saying is "Stop making TRANS operators until you've fixed what we have" and that's just...

Yeah it actually gets sillier the more I think about it XD

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

Also, You saying games cannot be realistic which just doesn't include R6 (Which hasn't been realistic since Amaru could grapple in a straight line into windows without any gravity affecting them) is far from being true and that could be to the fact you never play any games apart from Arcade type shooters like Siege.

You mistake "realistic" with "authentic", and no video games just like movies they are never realistic best you can hope for is enough autheticity to achieve a certain suspension of disbelief, enough so to stay immersed and invested.

But no, no shooter will ever be realistic and you want to know how you can tell? Because you're not pissing your pants or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ yourself the moment a bullet rips through you that's how, or going deaf for that matter whenever something explodes near you plus all the other unpleasant effects that comes with actual reality.

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

You have Squad which is very realistic in terms of gun-play, vehicles weak-points and targeting and even includes lobby based VOIP across both teams to hear each other as it was a real battle. Need another? Hell Let Loose: A WW2 Realistic shooter that is probably the closest thing we have to a realistic shooter in that Era and the same thing could be said to Squad which we also have Arma.

So no, you make absolutely no sense and basically just twisted the OPs words to make your point come across as right! Which you aren't right at all but go off I guess.

I've played them all quite a lot actually and the original Operation Flashpoint too, and yeah they're more geared towards authenticity definitely. But realistic? No, they're still just video games, quite clunky ones too even very limited in many ways, and even if that wasn't true then video games just like movies can only simulate so much.

But yeah I think I got you pegged now. You have issues with gays and trans people but pretend you don't, by justifying your reactions in ways that simply doesn't make any sense whatsoever, because probably deep down inside you know how stupid it is to get rattled by such things. And also you should get out more because you've grown so detached from reality you think what you're seeing on that screen of yours actually resembles it.

Gotcha, glhf ^^

You haven't "got me", You could say the same for all the operators yeah but to just outright call someone homophobic with literally no reasoning makes you look pathetic. I have no problems with trans people and I imagine you don't either but i'm not homophobic in the slightest.

To add to your point about those games being realistic, yes you are right and I am not going to outright say that you are wrong and I am always right because I am not. However, they are, and you might agree, is THE CLOSEST things we have to a realistic shooters. I could add VR games but none of them have quite matched with Hell Let Loose and Squad in terms of game-play.

To add onto that "Ubisoft promoting the Trans Operator" is more than just them ignoring the issues, it goes deeper to them going out of their way to do so. I'm going to prob hit someone where it hurts but cool a Transgender Operator to make the roster inclusive is fine and all but did they need to have in their words and not mine "A Queer person to write the backstory and a Transgender person to voice the character" and that is all we are being told!

You can reply but I am not going to reply back because no matter what I say, people will disagree and that's fine! Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I am all ears to hear them but I am also entitled to speak mine and you can disagree if you like.

[The Macc Lads]

This game has seriously gone downhill lately. I'm not bothered if you're straight, gay or like to prance around in your wifes/girlfriends panties at weekends and call yourself Suzy, but having all of this shoved down your throat 24/7 is becoming a joke now. I know loads of gay people and even they are fed up of it. Suppose this is what happens when the woke brigade get a grip on a video game.

[Igotdild4u]

Quick and easy way to get on the front page of game sites to look super woke and tolerant. Funny people think large companies care about anything except money and publicity lol.

[Mr. Schizophrenic]

Originally posted by Igotdild4u:

Quick and easy way to get on the front page of game sites to look super woke and tolerant. Funny people think large companies care about anything except money and publicity lol.

yeah ubisoft is becoming a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ company at this rate

[Mr. Schizophrenic]

Originally posted by The British Gamer:

This game has seriously gone downhill lately. I'm not bothered if you're straight, gay or like to prance around in your wifes/girlfriends panties at weekends and call yourself Suzy, but having all of this shoved down your throat 24/7 is becoming a joke now. I know loads of gay people and even they are fed up of it. Suppose this is what happens when the woke brigade get a grip on a video game.

People aren't homophobic for no reason and most of them don't hate gay people they just hate all of that being shoved down their throats, Like the pride parades and stuff like yeah you're gay I respect that but I don't need to know in every other sentence that you are gay.

[The Macc Lads]

Originally posted by Chad:

Originally posted by The British Gamer:

This game has seriously gone downhill lately. I'm not bothered if you're straight, gay or like to prance around in your wifes/girlfriends panties at weekends and call yourself Suzy, but having all of this shoved down your throat 24/7 is becoming a joke now. I know loads of gay people and even they are fed up of it. Suppose this is what happens when the woke brigade get a grip on a video game.

People aren't homophobic for no reason and most of them don't hate gay people they just hate all of that being shoved down their throats, Like the pride parades and stuff like yeah you're gay I respect that but I don't need to know in every other sentence that you are gay.

Spot on mate. It is getting beyond the realms of normality now. All these big companies think they are being super cool about this but all they are doing is pushing 90% of their users against them. It's about time we got back to some sort of normal existence and stopped having all this total fcuk wittery forced upon us every single day. It's amazing how Ubisoft can do this yet it wasn't long ago they were being investigated for sexual harassment and bullying.

[George Droyd MK77]

Originally posted by MrLupus:

Because a lot of gamers (humans in general actually) are still stupidly homophobic and pathetically terrified of trans people, scared out of their wits as if they pose some kind of threat to anything, that's why. I believe your post kind of proves their point tbh, that shoving this in your face hoping you'll grow used to it and mature a little as a person is actually necessary, because if "nobody cares about lore" then why do you so obviously care the moment someone's either trans or gay?

Also, every other operator has their traits, their own distinctiveness, and some kind of lore attached to them also (not that I ever read that nonsense because I genuinely don't care), realism is long gone in fact you won't find much of that in video games either and that's a good thing because being shot at is very unfun, so why are you flaming up over this?

because the design of the operators looks worse and worse every season it is very obvious that because they are only thinking about represantation they handicap themselfes when it comes to designing cool looking operators.

for me this is about as bad as the elite skins and halloween skins and stuff it makes the game look like something i dont want to play and im not alone with that opinion. i know gay people they dont look cringy or different from normal people at all, but ubisoft will design them that way to make sure you know they are openly gay and i find that in of itself offensive its like a caricature.

[SkibidiBeamer2019]

I really don't care about the lore I just want the game to work lmao

[Mr. Schizophrenic]

Originally posted by Gaming Fungus:

I really don't care about the lore I just want the game to work lmao

with each season it's starting to look like the lore is more of a priority than the game itself

[MrLupus]

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

You haven't "got me",

Yeah I do.

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

You could say the same for all the operators yeah but to just outright call someone homophobic with literally no reasoning makes you look pathetic.

That's not what I did though I simply deconstructed your argument to the contrary then concluded based on your own weak-ass nonsensical rebuttal. You can of course pretend it didn't happen and escape into lala-land the way people like you often do, but that won't change anything for anyone with two eyes and even a somewhat functional brain.

Originally posted by L | Mistah Haskins:

I have no problems with trans people and I imagine you don't either but i'm not homophobic in the slightest.

You literally just made an entire topic about how bummed out you are over the inclusions of gays and trans(es? - dunno the plural tbh), so yeah... Even though you attempted to masquerade it differently that doesn't matter, I had no problems demasking you whatsoever exposing your true motivation.

As for the rest of what you write I'm not even reading it, I have a life etc and also I believe based on your deep denial despite the obvious, that you are already aware and somewhat ashamed of your weird hangups and will eventually outgrow them alltogether like most people do.

Hope the rest can be said for this cute little choir you've gathered in here, some of them I'm pretty sure even you wouldn't want to be seated next to. I mean seriously, to take such offense by the fact that this digital work of fiction, this fantasy character that doesn't even exist, is trans...

I'm sorry, but if even seeing a trans and a gay on a movie or in a video game, or just doing their own thing parading down the street for that matter not forcing you to partake in anything nor creating any more problems than most parades do, is enough for anyone blow a fuse...

Then yeah like I started, that proves the point really, that you actually need to have these characteristics shoved into your faces, because clearly your brains aren't accustomed to them yet as you seem to spaz out over something that really matter ♥♥♥♥ all once you add even the slightest of rational thought to it.