Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Bucks CAMRS stronger than Mavericks .50 Cal?????
Sooo uhhhh Bucks CAMRS does 69 damage whereas Mavericks .50 cal only does 62???? This makes absolutely no sense. Look it up on Wiki the .50 beowulf vs 7.62x54r and look at the energy differences. Theres no reason that buck should have a higher damage.
Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:
Originally posted by Stone_Cold_Guns:
so buck having a stronger weapon is more balanced? But then less logical to drop bucks CAMRS and increase Mavericks .50???

Bullet damage is not the only balance factor.

-Damage per shot
-Damage falloff distance
-Rounds per minute
-Magazine size
-Reload time
-Recoil
-Ads time
-Weapon switch time
-Possible attachments
-Movement speed and armour of the Operator

Are all things you need to consider when balancing weapons. Not to mention different operators fill different roles. From utility, to raw killing power and everything in between.
A good example would be Jäger and Pulse. Jägers M416C is vastly superior to Pulses UMP-45, but Pulses gadget, in turn, allows him to provide more utility to the team in regards to information gathering and setting up kills than Jägers ADS can.
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76561198364266186 Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:18pm 
B A L A N C E
Dutspice Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:20pm 
balance reasons
Big_Daddy_Grizz Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
so buck having a stronger weapon is more balanced? But then less logical to drop bucks CAMRS and increase Mavericks .50???
Big_Daddy_Grizz Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
This game has no "balance"
♜Lilith♜ Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:29pm 
they threw realism out the window seasons ago
Dutspice Nov 15, 2018 @ 6:37pm 
Originally posted by Stone_Cold_Guns:
so buck having a stronger weapon is more balanced? But then less logical to drop bucks CAMRS and increase Mavericks .50???
it's probably to make the camr's vs c8-sfw choice an actual choice
Uncle Sam Nov 15, 2018 @ 9:24pm 
Balance over realism, this is an arcadeish shooter, with a "competitive focus".
NoOne0451 Nov 16, 2018 @ 3:42am 
I thought Buck's CAMRS is chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO, not 7.62x54mmR
Big_Daddy_Grizz Nov 16, 2018 @ 12:06pm 
I looked it up its chambered in 7.62 Nato so kinetic energry differences for the rounds is almost none
jkl_best Nov 16, 2018 @ 12:44pm 
buck has .51 cal rounds. 51 > 50 as 69 > 62 ;)
SenseiDecay Nov 16, 2018 @ 3:14pm 
Dude, go play arma if you want realistic ballistics.
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Scaredy Cat Nov 16, 2018 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by Stone_Cold_Guns:
so buck having a stronger weapon is more balanced? But then less logical to drop bucks CAMRS and increase Mavericks .50???

Bullet damage is not the only balance factor.

-Damage per shot
-Damage falloff distance
-Rounds per minute
-Magazine size
-Reload time
-Recoil
-Ads time
-Weapon switch time
-Possible attachments
-Movement speed and armour of the Operator

Are all things you need to consider when balancing weapons. Not to mention different operators fill different roles. From utility, to raw killing power and everything in between.
A good example would be Jäger and Pulse. Jägers M416C is vastly superior to Pulses UMP-45, but Pulses gadget, in turn, allows him to provide more utility to the team in regards to information gathering and setting up kills than Jägers ADS can.
Last edited by Scaredy Cat; Nov 16, 2018 @ 4:24pm
Scaredy Cat Nov 16, 2018 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by Stone_Cold_Guns:
so buck having a stronger weapon is more balanced? But then less logical to drop bucks CAMRS and increase Mavericks .50???

Also, on a sidenote. .50 Beowulf (the round Mavericks AR-15 is chambered in) is quite a bit smaller, ans doesnt go nearly as fast as the .50BMG (shot out of a Barrett) which you were probably thinking of.
There will still be a difference in energy that the rifles of Buck and Maverick are able to deliver, but it wont be as significant as when 1 round was the .50 BMG.

Also, if this game was realistic, one round to the chest out of a battle rifle would put you out of commission instantly.
Something they thankfully havent done due to gameplay purposes.
MeatShake Nov 16, 2018 @ 4:14pm 
Hey OP did you know a pistol shot from any distance against a a huge helmet with subsonic ammo through a wooden board and window and 3 layers of wall INSTANTLY KILLS YOU!?

I dunno why you're seriously getting mad over weapon damage lmao do you own an AR15 and you feel inferior now?
Jearvin Nov 16, 2018 @ 4:20pm 
bruh cheak out Mavericks pistol that ♥♥♥♥ does mor DMG then the dmr and alibi too her pistol does more dmg then her smg lmfao

FAIR AND BALANCED-UBI
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