Maps where Caveira is a BAD choice

[fede01_8]

For example, Hereford because it's too tight and too small

[Moonlilia]

I wouldn't say any map is bad for Cav. She's good for hunting single enemies, so she's viable so long as enemies can be isolated.

Originally posted by fede01_8:

For example, Hereford because it's too tight and too small

Not meaning to sound rude if I do, but if this was used as the reason for her being bad on maps, she'd be useless on house and plane. House is small and plane would be too narrow to allow her to move about freely if this is what we based it off of. :p

[Lep]

Originally posted by Shiruzun:

I wouldn't say any map is bad for Cav. She's good for hunting single enemies, so she's viable so long as enemies can be isolated.

Originally posted by fede01_8:

For example, Hereford because it's too tight and too small

Not meaning to sound rude if I do, but if this was used as the reason for her being bad on maps, she'd be useless on house and plane. House is small and plane would be too narrow to allow her to move about freely if this is what we based it off of. :p

Cav is only good on plane if all the enemies are on the floor below/above her, which is unlikely

[Vador76]

house, try to interrogate someone when there is atleast one of his teammates in a 30 meters radius
(in other words, house too small, and unlike plane there are many breakable floors )

[fede01_8]

Originally posted by ← Leprechaun→:

Originally posted by Shiruzun:

I wouldn't say any map is bad for Cav. She's good for hunting single enemies, so she's viable so long as enemies can be isolated.




Not meaning to sound rude if I do, but if this was used as the reason for her being bad on maps, she'd be useless on house and plane. House is small and plane would be too narrow to allow her to move about freely if this is what we based it off of. :p

Cav is only good on plane if all the enemies are on the floor below/above her, which is unlikely

Cav is bad when all of the enemies are close to each other.

[plankbro]

Originally posted by fede01_8:

Originally posted by ← Leprechaun→:

Cav is only good on plane if all the enemies are on the floor below/above her, which is unlikely

Cav is bad when all of the enemies are close to each other.

Cav is bad always

[Moonlilia]

Originally posted by fede01_8:

Originally posted by ← Leprechaun→:

Cav is only good on plane if all the enemies are on the floor below/above her, which is unlikely

Cav is bad when all of the enemies are close to each other.

Originally posted by Shiruzun:

She's good for hunting single enemies, so she's viable so long as enemies can be isolated.

[fede01_8]

Originally posted by Shiruzun:

Originally posted by fede01_8:

Cav is bad when all of the enemies are close to each other.

Originally posted by Shiruzun:

She's good for hunting single enemies, so she's viable so long as enemies can be isolated.

and you can't do that in maps that are narrow. so yeah, there are maps where she's not a good choice and it has nothing to do with skills, ok?

[Moonlilia]

Originally posted by fede01_8:

and you can't do that in maps that are narrow. so yeah, there are maps where she's not a good choice and it has nothing to do with skills, ok?

Yes you can. As I said, if you can isolate enemies, she's viable. Though they don't always split up, attackers will do so quite often, in my experience. When they do this, you can easily use Cav's pistol to take care of them. Narrow or not, if the enemy team is split up, she can prove useful.

Originally posted by fede01_8:

it has nothing to do with skills, ok?

Remind me, where did I say it has anything to do w/ skill in what you quoted me on? I said she's viable so long as enemies can stay isolated. That doesn't mean she is the one isolating them, though she certainly can be.

[VerrucktMedic]

Any roamer is bad or at least worse than normal when it comes to Herreford. There's only one staircase to rotate with meaning if you go to a floor above or below site it's almost impossible to get back if your team looses control, and there are so few hatches and in fact there are 0 on the third floor.

There's a reason that map is being remade next season.

[fede01_8]

You can't isolate players unless you know some hack that makes you control the enemies' movements

[Moonlilia]

Originally posted by fede01_8:

You can't isolate players unless you know some hack that makes you control the enemies' movements

As I said, you don't have to be the one to isolate them. They can easily do it themselves.

[VerrucktMedic]

Originally posted by fede01_8:

You can't isolate players unless you know some hack that makes you control the enemies' movements

Have you ever seen a Jackal go hunting for a Cav/other roamer alone?

Have you ever seen a Fuze leave his team to go above the objective to rain down the charges?

[Moonlilia]

Originally posted by VerrucktMedic:

Originally posted by fede01_8:

You can't isolate players unless you know some hack that makes you control the enemies' movements

Have you ever seen a Jackal go hunting for a Cav/other roamer alone?

Have you ever seen a Fuze leave his team to go above the objective to rain down the charges?

Yes, I have.
Also, as I've said in my other post: They don't always split up, but often times they do, in my experience. It doesn't have to be someone going to hunt Cav, it can be somebody going to attack from somewhere else, or to cause a distraction in one area to let their teammates attack another.

[Moonlilia]

Also, though it's recommended, a 3 speed doesn't have to roam all the time, even Cav. She can be quite deadly when defending an objective