Is anything ever going to be done about all these macro users?

[lxRs451]

Every Ranked/Unranked at least one enemy player has no recoil on SMG-11/SMG-12. They frequently spawnpeek with these weapons and nothing ever seems to be done about it.

[Uncle Sam]

You gotta record them and send it to Ubi support, Battle Eye hasn't banned hardware built-in macros on mouses for years. They're only banned via manual checks from Ubi employee that later pass the data to the Battle Eye team, since Ubi have no says in who get's banned or unbanned via Battle Eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwsdu8_OOY

Battle Eye on itself it's kinda mediocre, but not worse than VAC yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yr8Fq47PUo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnfmzgjpCXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn-3fImW_gY

Edit: The SMG-11 got manageable recoil up to 20ish meters, if they mag dump with full accuracy past that it's a bit fishy but possible past 30 meters you better start recording; if they're mag dumping with the SMG-12 all bullets in on point past 15m, might as well record multiple clips of them using that weapon to have a lot of proof, if they seem like a closet cheater.

[UbiYubble]

Originally posted by lxRs451:

Every Ranked/Unranked at least one enemy player has no recoil on SMG-11/SMG-12. They frequently spawnpeek with these weapons and nothing ever seems to be done about it.

How sure are you they're using macros? It's possible to learn those recoil patterns pretty well. Do you have a clip of this that I could take a look at?

[★ Moonlight ★]

Wait, how the hell does a macro manage recoil? All the macro software I've used only lets you macro buttons together, not mouse movement

[★ Moonlight ★]

I also should clarify that I don't use macros in gaming, but rather for thing like putting ctrl alt delete on a single key.

[Uncle Sam]

Originally posted by ★moonlight★:

Wait, how the hell does a macro manage recoil? All the macro software I've used only lets you macro buttons together, not mouse movement

There's macros that do the recoil control for you by moving the mouse x amount of pixels in the X Y axis / dimensions (vertical and horizontal), even in pro league of this game there was a case of the player Shaiiko got caught for pressing the button 4 multiple times in a inhumane time (delay 120 ms). But it only got caught due other pro player calling him out and later was verified by MOSS logs, the ESL anti cheat (as of now the best anti cheat in the market).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhjuj9C52U4

Skip up to the min 10:07 of that video for a brief summary of the situation.

[lxRs451]

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

Originally posted by lxRs451:

Every Ranked/Unranked at least one enemy player has no recoil on SMG-11/SMG-12. They frequently spawnpeek with these weapons and nothing ever seems to be done about it.

How sure are you they're using macros? It's possible to learn those recoil patterns pretty well. Do you have a clip of this that I could take a look at?

I don't record gameplay so i don't but how sure? I can only be when i see a killcam of someone using it and the last occurence i met was in the last match i played yesterday. One enemy played a Bandit on defense and when he killed me (and others in my party) his gun never had any recoil when spraying, and i mean that it did not move upwards at all.

[Htiud47]

Originally posted by lxRs451:

Every Ranked/Unranked at least one enemy player has no recoil on SMG-11/SMG-12. They frequently spawnpeek with these weapons and nothing ever seems to be done about it.

The anti cheat is pretty crap u gotta record it and send evidence yourself and then they might ban them.

[Uncle Sam]

Originally posted by lxRs451:

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

How sure are you they're using macros? It's possible to learn those recoil patterns pretty well. Do you have a clip of this that I could take a look at?

I don't record gameplay so i don't but how sure? I can only be when i see a killcam of someone using it and the last occurence i met was in the last match i played yesterday. One enemy played a Bandit on defense and when he killed me (and others in my party) his gun never had any recoil when spraying, and i mean that it did not move upwards at all.

Well 2 things, 1st the MP7 got a pretty easy to learn recoil pattern since it's mostly vertical and only a tiny bit of horizontal recoil. 2nd You should start recording your games, from today and forward if you're a tad too sus of any opfor player.

[Shoepots]

Originally posted by lxRs451:

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

How sure are you they're using macros? It's possible to learn those recoil patterns pretty well. Do you have a clip of this that I could take a look at?

I don't record gameplay so i don't but how sure? I can only be when i see a killcam of someone using it and the last occurence i met was in the last match i played yesterday. One enemy played a Bandit on defense and when he killed me (and others in my party) his gun never had any recoil when spraying, and i mean that it did not move upwards at all.

You need to record it. Recoil control is something you can learn if you take some time to practice it.

[Nomad]

Originally posted by ★moonlight★:

Wait, how the hell does a macro manage recoil? All the macro software I've used only lets you macro buttons together, not mouse movement

the macro that manages recoil basically treats the weapon as though you are firing it a single time but in a continuation action to simulate auto fire. It's like tapping the fire button but on crack and it still counts as though you single fired and the barrel attachment treats it as such. The only way for Battleye and Ubisoft to ban something like this is to monitor key presses and set a limit and anything above this limit is not humanly possible and consider stuff like that to be bannable. They did this with a pro league player years ago where he was using a macro and was reported by old school Penta and he got banned.

[Ligma]

Originally posted by Nomad:

Originally posted by ★moonlight★:

Wait, how the hell does a macro manage recoil? All the macro software I've used only lets you macro buttons together, not mouse movement

the macro that manages recoil basically treats the weapon as though you are firing it a single time but in a continuation action to simulate auto fire. It's like tapping the fire button but on crack and it still counts as though you single fired and the barrel attachment treats it as such. The only way for Battleye and Ubisoft to ban something like this is to monitor key presses and set a limit and anything above this limit is not humanly possible and consider stuff like that to be bannable. They did this with a pro league player years ago where he was using a macro and was reported by old school Penta and he got banned.

I know I’m late but you are describing a rapid fire macro, and shaiiko was proved not having any macros. Please have solid proof if you are going to talk.

[Steven]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.