R6 siege headshots are bs

[Monarch]

1. 1 shot headshot no matter the caliber and distance is realistic : wrong. Most modern combat headgears are capable of protecting the user. Obviously rounds from high caliber sniper rifles are near impossible to stop, but 9mm rounds and even magnum rounds firing from smgs like we see everyday in R6 is easily handled. Proof? Here you go
https://youtu.be/Tyr0jTz8hIY

At least they should change the dmg depening on caliber. Rifle rounds are likely to get one shot headshot. Thats a fact. But 9mm from more than 50 meters away? Spawnkills wont be a problem anymore.


2. it is by design : we like to believe that r6 is lot more realistic and have better logic compare to other games. However, 'the one shot headshot no matter ♥♥♥♥ing what' ruins the game very very hard. How many times did you feel WTF playing this game because someone shot you with a unrealistic situations? smoke's smg throuth a wall and hit you in the headand died instantly with one bullet?
For a game that stands for intense and realistic shooting, it is really annoying to have no matter ♥♥♥♥ing what one headshot deaths. ♥♥♥♥ im Plat 1 and always felt such bs net code advantagr with headshots were bs. https://youtu.be/Ci3yWBIVESU

Even CSGo has better logic then R6 siege : Pistols (9mm not desert eagle) cant kill someone with 1 shot with kevlar but AK47 rifle rounds will. Thats pretty accurate. In Siege? Nope

[Punished Jeremy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wrex:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

My problem is that we where argueing about his opinion and he starts pulling the fact that he's a pro league and he's going to find us in game and talking ♥♥♥♥ about my kd. This is not someone that just wants to debate one the forums. He's a salty tryhard that like I said is just ♥♥♥♥ posting to get attention

That too, but that's a staple of ♥♥♥♥♥ on the internet

Man, this guy got some issues.

Could say the same thing about you and Zest
But I'm not a ♥♥♥♥ that's going to start talking ♥♥♥♥ with nothing to back it up, so let's clarify

I don't have much on you, other than the second you starting posted you agreed with everything Zest said and disagreed with everything everyone else said. Rip
Zest on the other hand wants us to believe that he's some sort of mlg player that knows his ♥♥♥♥ and apparently has talked with Ubisoft people (whatever that means and I still don't believe that), yet he still doesn't understand why the game is setup like it is. It's not a military sim, it's a hero shooter. It doesn't have to be completely realistic. No game does. Instead of backing his ♥♥♥♥ up with evidence or any real leg to stand on he tried to pull rank and kd on us. Call us children, and completely ignore our arguments because he knows we have a point
He is full of ♥♥♥♥

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh XSilentNinja12:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Cancer because it is so hard to understand 15 lines of facts? The point is its unrealistic and no fun and doesnt suit the environment of the game when you shoot almost always in CQB. ALL i ask is to tone down the one shot headshot with some of the low caliber guns like smokes smg and apply distance dropping to headshots also. I NEVER said they should input helmet distortion etc real life stuff.

Not only did you say the game was not realistic and then started complaining about it, meaning that you think the game should be more realistic; you also implied it multiple times. Guess what pal, if a bullet hits you in the head, you are going to die 99.9% of the time because that is how the world works. Caliber doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ at the distances you are put at in siege. In siege, there is no distance whatsoever that a bullet wouldn't penetrate your skull if the shot was accurate enough to hit your head, especially if we are talking about rifles. Siege guns don't have nerf gun mechanics buddy. A bullet going through a wall could still have the potential to explode your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ head, even if it is a 9mm round. I really don't understand your reasoning behind this. And if the games mechanics are "no fun" then why have you played 400 hours and are decent enough to be plat 1. And I never once said anything about helmet distortion whatever the ♥♥♥♥ that means. The only thing I can agree with you on is the dropping distance, but again, its a video game and if you don't like it then go cry to mommy.

Cuz I bought the damn game for 40$? to get the money worth out of it? So it is wrong to argue one of the mechanics of the game on the DISCUSSION section? you know I was not that eager for like a riot or ♥♥♥♥, but this DELTA kid and few kid were cussing like a 12 year old knowing jacksquat. You don't agree, THAT'S FINE but dont run around and say ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ that or call someone a loser. you piss me off and then ask me why I whine? what kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question is that?

and SINCE WHEN THE ♥♥♥♥ IT BECAME WRONG to question one of the most over juiced mechanics of the game? I used it, felt that was garbage and cheeky af, so I say at least consider DOWNGRADING IT. not delete the whole damn thing.

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game
Shut up

yup youre one who started this ♥♥♥♥. Apologize and get lost.

[Punished Jeremy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh XSilentNinja12:

Not only did you say the game was not realistic and then started complaining about it, meaning that you think the game should be more realistic; you also implied it multiple times. Guess what pal, if a bullet hits you in the head, you are going to die 99.9% of the time because that is how the world works. Caliber doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥ at the distances you are put at in siege. In siege, there is no distance whatsoever that a bullet wouldn't penetrate your skull if the shot was accurate enough to hit your head, especially if we are talking about rifles. Siege guns don't have nerf gun mechanics buddy. A bullet going through a wall could still have the potential to explode your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ head, even if it is a 9mm round. I really don't understand your reasoning behind this. And if the games mechanics are "no fun" then why have you played 400 hours and are decent enough to be plat 1. And I never once said anything about helmet distortion whatever the ♥♥♥♥ that means. The only thing I can agree with you on is the dropping distance, but again, its a video game and if you don't like it then go cry to mommy.

Cuz I bought the damn game for 40$? to get the money worth out of it? So it is wrong to argue one of the mechanics of the game on the DISCUSSION section? you know I was not that eager for like a riot or ♥♥♥♥, but this DELTA kid and few kid were cussing like a 12 year old knowing jacksquat. You don't agree, THAT'S FINE but dont run around and say ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ that or call someone a loser. you piss me off and then ask me why I whine? what kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ question is that?

and SINCE WHEN THE ♥♥♥♥ IT BECAME WRONG to question one of the most over juiced mechanics of the game? I used it, felt that was garbage and cheeky af, so I say at least consider DOWNGRADING IT. not delete the whole damn thing.

"Over juiced" ha
That's a new one
And here you go making the kid insults again, which you look back in by page you started making those before we all got on your stupid ass about this. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion on the internet, but also have to understand that it can just as easily apply to us and our opinion that your opinion is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. That's how a forum works. Just because we hurt your feelings doesn't mean ignoring our arguments and trying to change subject and take cheap shots at or characters by either age or kd makes you any less a massive gaping ♥♥♥♥ of a person

[Punished Jeremy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game
Shut up

yup youre one who started this ♥♥♥♥. Apologize and get lost.

Oh no did I hurt your feelings? Welcome to the internet. Nobody cares

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Wrex:

Man, this guy got some issues.

Could say the same thing about you and Zest
But I'm not a ♥♥♥♥ that's going to start talking ♥♥♥♥ with nothing to back it up, so let's clarify

I don't have much on you, other than the second you starting posted you agreed with everything Zest said and disagreed with everything everyone else said. Rip
Zest on the other hand wants us to believe that he's some sort of mlg player that knows his ♥♥♥♥ and apparently has talked with Ubisoft people (whatever that means and I still don't believe that), yet he still doesn't understand why the game is setup like it is. It's not a military sim, it's a hero shooter. It doesn't have to be completely realistic. No game does. Instead of backing his ♥♥♥♥ up with evidence or any real leg to stand on he tried to pull rank and kd on us. Call us children, and completely ignore our arguments because he knows we have a point
He is full of ♥♥♥♥

FOR THE LAST TIME, I SAID CHANGE THE HEADSHOT MECHANICS SO SMOKE'S SMG WONT HIT SOME KEVLAR HELMET FROM 70 METER OUT with one shot
All im saying is that put DISTANCE to the headshot mechanics, like most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games do.
Aliance of Valiant Arms, SOCOM, Warface, CoD, ALL THE COUNTER STRIKE SERIES, BATTLEFIELD, ARMA is that enough for you? NONE OF THOSE GAMES HAVE 1 SHOT HEADSHOTS. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care if ARs like R4 or AR-15 or AK-12 or DMRs have 1 shot headshot because that makes SENSE. 2 shot headshots deaths for low caliber SMGs from FAR AWAY, is that so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard? awwwwww

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

yup youre one who started this ♥♥♥♥. Apologize and get lost.

Oh no did I hurt your feelings? Welcome to the internet. Nobody cares

Yeah so nobody cares so you should fap around ruining others day to compensate your sad, sad life. guess this is a life of a 0.8 KDA with Level 100.
Least be honest with your rank record ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Punished Jeremy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Could say the same thing about you and Zest
But I'm not a ♥♥♥♥ that's going to start talking ♥♥♥♥ with nothing to back it up, so let's clarify

I don't have much on you, other than the second you starting posted you agreed with everything Zest said and disagreed with everything everyone else said. Rip
Zest on the other hand wants us to believe that he's some sort of mlg player that knows his ♥♥♥♥ and apparently has talked with Ubisoft people (whatever that means and I still don't believe that), yet he still doesn't understand why the game is setup like it is. It's not a military sim, it's a hero shooter. It doesn't have to be completely realistic. No game does. Instead of backing his ♥♥♥♥ up with evidence or any real leg to stand on he tried to pull rank and kd on us. Call us children, and completely ignore our arguments because he knows we have a point
He is full of ♥♥♥♥

FOR THE LAST TIME, I SAID CHANGE THE HEADSHOT MECHANICS SO SMOKE'S SMG WONT HIT SOME KEVLAR HELMET FROM 70 METER OUT with one shot
All im saying is that put DISTANCE to the headshot mechanics, like most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games do.
Aliance of Valiant Arms, SOCOM, Warface, CoD, ALL THE COUNTER STRIKE SERIES, BATTLEFIELD, ARMA is that enough for you? NONE OF THOSE GAMES HAVE 1 SHOT HEADSHOTS. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care if ARs like R4 or AR-15 or AK-12 or DMRs have 1 shot headshot because that makes SENSE. 2 shot headshots deaths for low caliber SMGs from FAR AWAY, is that so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard? awwwwww

For the last time (I don't even think I want to say that, because I know you don't listen) that would completely ♥♥♥♥ up the games meta
No

[Punished Jeremy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Oh no did I hurt your feelings? Welcome to the internet. Nobody cares

Yeah so nobody cares so you should fap around ruining others day to compensate your sad, sad life. guess this is a life of a 0.8 KDA with Level 100.
Least be honest with your rank record ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Well I'm glad you've at least confirmed that I'm ruining your day. You must not have a lot going on. Life of a pro league plat mlg badass sounds sweaty, and salty

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

FOR THE LAST TIME, I SAID CHANGE THE HEADSHOT MECHANICS SO SMOKE'S SMG WONT HIT SOME KEVLAR HELMET FROM 70 METER OUT with one shot
All im saying is that put DISTANCE to the headshot mechanics, like most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games do.
Aliance of Valiant Arms, SOCOM, Warface, CoD, ALL THE COUNTER STRIKE SERIES, BATTLEFIELD, ARMA is that enough for you? NONE OF THOSE GAMES HAVE 1 SHOT HEADSHOTS. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care if ARs like R4 or AR-15 or AK-12 or DMRs have 1 shot headshot because that makes SENSE. 2 shot headshots deaths for low caliber SMGs from FAR AWAY, is that so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard? awwwwww

For the last time (I don't even think I want to say that, because I know you don't listen) that would completely ♥♥♥♥ up the games meta
No

Yeah so you when I give the list of games that I played and KNOW for a FACT that they dont have 1 shot headshots for 9mm pee shooter, you stfu and just cuss cuss cuss. and you say I lie :D

[AintCanc3r]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Could say the same thing about you and Zest
But I'm not a ♥♥♥♥ that's going to start talking ♥♥♥♥ with nothing to back it up, so let's clarify

I don't have much on you, other than the second you starting posted you agreed with everything Zest said and disagreed with everything everyone else said. Rip
Zest on the other hand wants us to believe that he's some sort of mlg player that knows his ♥♥♥♥ and apparently has talked with Ubisoft people (whatever that means and I still don't believe that), yet he still doesn't understand why the game is setup like it is. It's not a military sim, it's a hero shooter. It doesn't have to be completely realistic. No game does. Instead of backing his ♥♥♥♥ up with evidence or any real leg to stand on he tried to pull rank and kd on us. Call us children, and completely ignore our arguments because he knows we have a point
He is full of ♥♥♥♥

FOR THE LAST TIME, I SAID CHANGE THE HEADSHOT MECHANICS SO SMOKE'S SMG WONT HIT SOME KEVLAR HELMET FROM 70 METER OUT with one shot
All im saying is that put DISTANCE to the headshot mechanics, like most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games do.
Aliance of Valiant Arms, SOCOM, Warface, CoD, ALL THE COUNTER STRIKE SERIES, BATTLEFIELD, ARMA is that enough for you? NONE OF THOSE GAMES HAVE 1 SHOT HEADSHOTS. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care if ARs like R4 or AR-15 or AK-12 or DMRs have 1 shot headshot because that makes SENSE. 2 shot headshots deaths for low caliber SMGs from FAR AWAY, is that so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard? awwwwww

It would be wise for you to emphasize your definition of "Far Away"
Is it the length of a corridor? Or from one side of the House (as in the map) to another?

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Delta:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Yeah so nobody cares so you should fap around ruining others day to compensate your sad, sad life. guess this is a life of a 0.8 KDA with Level 100.
Least be honest with your rank record ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Well I'm glad you've at least confirmed that I'm ruining your day. You must not have a lot going on. Life of a pro league plat mlg badass sounds sweaty, and salty

yeah better be sweaty plat than a loser posting hate comments to a total stranger and feel proud even though he's shown a full blown proofs. guess youre life is 0.8 XD

[Monarch]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ain't Canc3r:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

FOR THE LAST TIME, I SAID CHANGE THE HEADSHOT MECHANICS SO SMOKE'S SMG WONT HIT SOME KEVLAR HELMET FROM 70 METER OUT with one shot
All im saying is that put DISTANCE to the headshot mechanics, like most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games do.
Aliance of Valiant Arms, SOCOM, Warface, CoD, ALL THE COUNTER STRIKE SERIES, BATTLEFIELD, ARMA is that enough for you? NONE OF THOSE GAMES HAVE 1 SHOT HEADSHOTS. I dont ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care if ARs like R4 or AR-15 or AK-12 or DMRs have 1 shot headshot because that makes SENSE. 2 shot headshots deaths for low caliber SMGs from FAR AWAY, is that so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard? awwwwww

It would be wise for you to emphasize your definition of "Far Away"
Is it the length of a corridor? Or from one side of the House (as in the map) to another?

I'm not sure about the exact number of meters because like I said before, balancing is the main issue. obviously house's hallway or anywhere inside the house is considered 1 shot headshot range. but the tale of the plane to a near cockpit is 2 headshot range.

[Monarch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXN95pYYqOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdjYrM9DZkc

this is legit to you guys?

[AintCanc3r]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Zest:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Ain't Canc3r:

It would be wise for you to emphasize your definition of "Far Away"
Is it the length of a corridor? Or from one side of the House (as in the map) to another?

I'm not sure about the exact number of meters because like I said before, balancing is the main issue. obviously house's hallway or anywhere inside the house is considered 1 shot headshot range. but the tale of the plane to a near cockpit is 2 headshot range.

Yeah, that sounds reasonably imo. The chances of that happening is quite low though. This may be the reason why Ubi does not think it is necessary to include a system that calculate the range of a bullet travel and decide if this headshot is to be considered a DBNO or an instakill.
While I'm not some master programmer, I do know that the process of adding those codes are hard, and a small mistake can screw everything up. Do consider the reasons behind why Ubi did not include this feature.

Also, it is annoying to write a bunch of code to give every caliber a instakill headshot range, though I must admit dying to a long range shotgun shot is dumb, but I personally view it as my own mistake of not taking cover properly.