R6 siege headshots are bs

[Monarch]

1. 1 shot headshot no matter the caliber and distance is realistic : wrong. Most modern combat headgears are capable of protecting the user. Obviously rounds from high caliber sniper rifles are near impossible to stop, but 9mm rounds and even magnum rounds firing from smgs like we see everyday in R6 is easily handled. Proof? Here you go
https://youtu.be/Tyr0jTz8hIY

At least they should change the dmg depening on caliber. Rifle rounds are likely to get one shot headshot. Thats a fact. But 9mm from more than 50 meters away? Spawnkills wont be a problem anymore.


2. it is by design : we like to believe that r6 is lot more realistic and have better logic compare to other games. However, 'the one shot headshot no matter ♥♥♥♥ing what' ruins the game very very hard. How many times did you feel WTF playing this game because someone shot you with a unrealistic situations? smoke's smg throuth a wall and hit you in the headand died instantly with one bullet?
For a game that stands for intense and realistic shooting, it is really annoying to have no matter ♥♥♥♥ing what one headshot deaths. ♥♥♥♥ im Plat 1 and always felt such bs net code advantagr with headshots were bs. https://youtu.be/Ci3yWBIVESU

Even CSGo has better logic then R6 siege : Pistols (9mm not desert eagle) cant kill someone with 1 shot with kevlar but AK47 rifle rounds will. Thats pretty accurate. In Siege? Nope

[girthquake]

引用自 KR4NE：

lol R6 outweighs CS:GO in every single way, mechanically, physically, and mentally

also are you comparing R6 to real life? almost 75% of what R6 is, is unrealistic

Except for the serverside part.

[girthquake]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

That's also a massive problem though. If it's on presidential plane, there will literally be NO WAY to counter him at all.

I honestly dont know what devs were thinking with glaz breaking through windows...I think thats one that just shows dev's lack of understanding of the game

Less like their misunderstanding more like yours.

[Monarch]

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

引用自 Zest：

That I agree, which is why they need to tone down her fire rate a bit or increase the recoil. That is not that hard to do.

Then this literally means that if they change headshots, they'd have to completely rework the entire game. Let's just stick to fixing the servers, Mkay?

tweaking guns is plain easy seriously. there is no need to change any of the maps.

[Monarch]

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

引用自 Zest：

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, Ok let me spell out my point for you. Jagers HK416 has 5.56 caliber which makes sense to have very long one shot headshot range.
But something like a FNP9 or Vector will kill you from tale of the plane to near cockpit of the plane? with that fire rate and recoil, i say thats reasasssaaaally " FAIR"

I'd love to see a video of a defender instantly sniping an attacker with a Vector ( which doesnt have an acog ) while the attacker has an acog

not that hard to find bro... i mean really.

[girthquake]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

Then this literally means that if they change headshots, they'd have to completely rework the entire game. Let's just stick to fixing the servers, Mkay?

tweaking guns is plain easy seriously. there is no need to change any of the maps.

Not really no, we're talking a much larger change than a few guns.

[Punished Jeremy]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

I'll insult him in the very least ad hominem way.
He's one of *those* people who think realism has a higher priority than balancing in A COMPETITIVE GAME.

Did i ever say make siege something like ARMA? no right? i said change the headshot dmg equation so 9mm pee shooters wont get 1 shot headshots from tale of the plane to 300 meter out. its a balance issue that doesnt make sense in game style and a unrealistic at the same time.

Exactly how many times do you think people get kills at long range from 9mm guns? I mean you seem to want us to forget this, because it's stupid, but you made this thread because spawn peekers where killing you
So how many times do you think that happens to the majority of players? And honestly how many people do you think care? If it's a 9mm pistol one would assume it would be harder to land that shot than if it was a rifle, so it's not like the 9mm headshot instant kill is unfair at all

[Punished Jeremy]

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

引用自 Zest：

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, Ok let me spell out my point for you. Jagers HK416 has 5.56 caliber which makes sense to have very long one shot headshot range.
But something like a FNP9 or Vector will kill you from tale of the plane to near cockpit of the plane? with that fire rate and recoil, i say thats reasasssaaaally " FAIR"

I'd love to see a video of a defender instantly sniping an attacker with a Vector ( which doesnt have an acog ) while the attacker has an acog

I mean the video he showed the guy was standing still

[Monarch]

引用自 Delta：

引用自 Zest：

Did i ever say make siege something like ARMA? no right? i said change the headshot dmg equation so 9mm pee shooters wont get 1 shot headshots from tale of the plane to 300 meter out. its a balance issue that doesnt make sense in game style and a unrealistic at the same time.

Exactly how many times do you think people get kills at long range from 9mm guns? I mean you seem to want us to forget this, because it's stupid, but you made this thread because spawn peekers where killing you
So how many times do you think that happens to the majority of players? And honestly how many people do you think care? If it's a 9mm pistol one would assume it would be harder to land that shot than if it was a rifle, so it's not like the 9mm headshot instant kill is unfair at all

i think i posted on another thread that I get killed from spawn kills once in 20 matches so I told the OP to learn to counter it.

[Punished Jeremy]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 toiletcleanerpro：

Then this literally means that if they change headshots, they'd have to completely rework the entire game. Let's just stick to fixing the servers, Mkay?

tweaking guns is plain easy seriously. there is no need to change any of the maps.

No it's not. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update that adds new operators drastically changes the meta and the community has to adapt. You want to just completely flip everyone on there heads
It would be easy to implement, but would not last with the players

[Monarch]

引用自 Delta：

引用自 Zest：

tweaking guns is plain easy seriously. there is no need to change any of the maps.

No it's not. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update that adds new operators drastically changes the meta and the community has to adapt. You want to just completely flip everyone on there heads
It would be easy to implement, but would not last with the players

the meta that this community adapted is just exploiting server errors and extreme headshots. Fair to say it DOES need some change and thats what devs has been trying to do so far

[JtDarth]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 Delta：

No it's not. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update that adds new operators drastically changes the meta and the community has to adapt. You want to just completely flip everyone on there heads
It would be easy to implement, but would not last with the players

the meta that this community adapted is just exploiting server errors and extreme headshots. Fair to say it DOES need some change and thats what devs has been trying to do so far

Yes, the servers need fixed. The headshots will be perfectly fine once that is done. Ubisoft si attempting to change things somewhat gradually, so as not to completely alienate everyone used to current meta.

[girthquake]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 Delta：

No it's not. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update that adds new operators drastically changes the meta and the community has to adapt. You want to just completely flip everyone on there heads
It would be easy to implement, but would not last with the players

the meta that this community adapted is just exploiting server errors and extreme headshots. Fair to say it DOES need some change and thats what devs has been trying to do so far

So fix the servers, not the meta.

[Punished Jeremy]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 Delta：

Exactly how many times do you think people get kills at long range from 9mm guns? I mean you seem to want us to forget this, because it's stupid, but you made this thread because spawn peekers where killing you
So how many times do you think that happens to the majority of players? And honestly how many people do you think care? If it's a 9mm pistol one would assume it would be harder to land that shot than if it was a rifle, so it's not like the 9mm headshot instant kill is unfair at all

i think i posted on another thread that I get killed from spawn kills once in 20 matches so I told the OP to learn to counter it.

引用自 Zest：

But 9mm from more than 50 meters away? Spawnkills wont be a problem anymore.

Spawn killers aren't exactly killing with pistols and if it's an smg then in terms of game balance it's fine

[Monarch]

引用自 Delta：

引用自 Zest：

Did i ever say make siege something like ARMA? no right? i said change the headshot dmg equation so 9mm pee shooters wont get 1 shot headshots from tale of the plane to 300 meter out. its a balance issue that doesnt make sense in game style and a unrealistic at the same time.

Exactly how many times do you think people get kills at long range from 9mm guns? I mean you seem to want us to forget this, because it's stupid, but you made this thread because spawn peekers where killing you
So how many times do you think that happens to the majority of players? And honestly how many people do you think care? If it's a 9mm pistol one would assume it would be harder to land that shot than if it was a rifle, so it's not like the 9mm headshot instant kill is unfair at all

I will admit that vid is poor example of smart spawn kill, but the point was extreme headshot rewards. If you wanna see 9mms problem, watch Macie Jay or Serenity vids with bandit and mira etc. they will go and say time to time : this is too ez.

[Punished Jeremy]

引用自 Zest：

引用自 Delta：

No it's not. Every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ update that adds new operators drastically changes the meta and the community has to adapt. You want to just completely flip everyone on there heads
It would be easy to implement, but would not last with the players

the meta that this community adapted is just exploiting server errors and extreme headshots. Fair to say it DOES need some change and thats what devs has been trying to do so far

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