Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Viable_Golem4375 2020 年 1 月 6 日 上午 11:51
So I Think I Know How To Fix Amaru
So this operator atm is kinda useless as she can't really do her job without being instakilled upon entering a window, but I think that these changes would make her usable :

1. Delete her current primaries.

2. Replace them with the PDW9 (Jackal's SMG) and the SASG-12 (Russian shotgun).

3. Allow her to shoot while entering the window/hatch/doorway/etc.

4. Remove that recovery after entering a window (basically she can start moving the second she's in).

My main reasoning behind this is that her current weapons make no sense on an op designed for rushing as the G8A1 has a horridly slow ADS time and the Supernova fires too slow for it to be effective, these new primaries offer power in areas that this op needs as the PDW has a quick ads time and a lot of bullets, and the SASG can fire quickly allowing you to eliminate someone fast and move on, and by removing those cooldowns on firing and moving it allows her to retaliate faster and easier, thereby removing the high change of instant death upon entry.
引用自 UbiYubble:
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
1. Delete her current primaries.

2. Replace them with the PDW9 (Jackal's SMG) and the SASG-12 (Russian shotgun).

3. Allow her to shoot while entering the window/hatch/doorway/etc.

Thank you for sharing your suggestions, Viable!

This is the second Operator that I've seen players suggest getting Jackal's SMG. As someone who uses it more than the C7E, I approve.

This is also something I've seen when players suggest a buff to Amaru, but if she's shooting, where does her Garra Hook go? She's holding it while it pulls her forward.
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Viable_Golem4375 2020 年 1 月 7 日 上午 11:42 
引用自 Zantetsuken
Because it doesn't only work when rappelling. You can also bust through windows inside the building.

But then why not just vault?
Nomad 2020 年 1 月 7 日 下午 3:58 
well first of all, she can bring her weapons up fairly decent. If you rush a window and a defender is near enough, they should have the advantage over you instead of you walking in and doming them because you have the latency advantage, as I have died enough times to basically start prefiring when i hear someone reppel into a window.
Copy & Cat 2020 年 1 月 7 日 下午 4:08 
引用自 Nomad
well first of all, she can bring her weapons up fairly decent. If you rush a window and a defender is near enough, they should have the advantage over you instead of you walking in and doming them because you have the latency advantage, as I have died enough times to basically start prefiring when i hear someone reppel into a window.
She's hilariously slow which makes her extremely useless, her only thing is mobility that gets her killed
dont_ask_me_again 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 3:32 
引用自 Zantetsuken
You're assuming it's about rushing though. She has an LMG and that's her only good advantage, that thing racks up tons of kills that an SMG wouldn't. She can quickly relocate through windows this is true but speed is for positioning rather than a frontal assault with no armor. If you wait for your team to attack from the front she can bust in through the rear and flank. Or she can hang out outside the window supporting with LMG fire. Bust in when it's convenient. Overall I mainly only use her to flank with an LMG because other LMG users normally come from the front.
They literally do the same damage except one has 200ms ADS time the other is lime 285ms ADS... one is shorter and the other is longer... one has less recoil the other has more... the G8A1 has all the disadvantages here and guess why? Because unsmart people exist who’ll call the gun op if it was good. It’s IQs worst gun. Every time it gets buffed ubi nerfs it to be so RnG dependant.
最後修改者:dont_ask_me_again; 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 3:32
Viable_Golem4375 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 7:53 
引用自 dont_ask_me_again
引用自 Zantetsuken
You're assuming it's about rushing though. She has an LMG and that's her only good advantage, that thing racks up tons of kills that an SMG wouldn't. She can quickly relocate through windows this is true but speed is for positioning rather than a frontal assault with no armor. If you wait for your team to attack from the front she can bust in through the rear and flank. Or she can hang out outside the window supporting with LMG fire. Bust in when it's convenient. Overall I mainly only use her to flank with an LMG because other LMG users normally come from the front.
They literally do the same damage except one has 200ms ADS time the other is lime 285ms ADS... one is shorter and the other is longer... one has less recoil the other has more... the G8A1 has all the disadvantages here and guess why? Because unsmart people exist who’ll call the gun op if it was good. It’s IQs worst gun. Every time it gets buffed ubi nerfs it to be so RnG dependant.

Did the gun get a nerf or something, I took a break from the game for a few months.
Copy & Cat 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
引用自 dont_ask_me_again
They literally do the same damage except one has 200ms ADS time the other is lime 285ms ADS... one is shorter and the other is longer... one has less recoil the other has more... the G8A1 has all the disadvantages here and guess why? Because unsmart people exist who’ll call the gun op if it was good. It’s IQs worst gun. Every time it gets buffed ubi nerfs it to be so RnG dependant.

Did the gun get a nerf or something, I took a break from the game for a few months.
Nope
Viable_Golem4375 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 9:11 
引用自 Christmas zone
引用自 Viable_Golem4375

Did the gun get a nerf or something, I took a break from the game for a few months.
Nope

Alright then, thx.
Consent 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 10:03 
Just add a cracking sound effect to the window barricades, and dont let them break until she enters. Done, fixed.
SirPotato 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 10:12 
引用自 Christmas zone
They don't want her to be able to rush in and get kills fast ironically, thats what they said in the reveal trailer,
And that's a bad thing they made up, she is just like ash but way worse in terms of gadget / speed (she can only grapple faster and that's a useless advantage) :/
The Sewer Guide 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 Younesnake
引用自 Christmas zone
They don't want her to be able to rush in and get kills fast ironically, thats what they said in the reveal trailer,
And that's a bad thing they made up, she is just like ash but way worse in terms of gadget / speed (she can only grapple faster and that's a useless advantage) :/
Its a pretty big advantage, but it sounds like youre just not using it well.

Stop immediately rushing and rappelling into windows. Sometimes it pays off, but it seems like thats your main problem. I know she sounds like a rush operator, but shes not really good at that.

I find her gadget useful, as it can:
Get on the roof quickly, and possibly destroy a hatch and catch a defender by suprise

Get up from hatches which is very useful if you are stuck in a small room, like the laundry room near reading (doesnt work that well, sometimes it seems to not detect the hatch, dunno whats up with that), or flank them using the hatch

Just save time, and makes you less vulnerable while rappelling

Get you into obj if time is running out,

Can help you with certain spawnpeeks, like if someone is watching the ladder in Alley Access, you can rappel to the left and possibly get an easy kill,

Rushing is also still an option, but its pretty much russian roulette if you didnt drone the area.

Probably a few more uses that i didnt list, but i think thats a lot of uses for 1 gadget, certainly not "useless"
SirPotato 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 10:52 
引用自 The Sewer Guide
引用自 Younesnake
And that's a bad thing they made up, she is just like ash but way worse in terms of gadget / speed (she can only grapple faster and that's a useless advantage) :/
Its a pretty big advantage, but it sounds like youre just not using it well.

Stop immediately rushing and rappelling into windows. Sometimes it pays off, but it seems like thats your main problem. I know she sounds like a rush operator, but shes not really good at that.

I find her gadget useful, as it can:
Get on the roof quickly, and possibly destroy a hatch and catch a defender by suprise

Get up from hatches which is very useful if you are stuck in a small room, like the laundry room near reading (doesnt work that well, sometimes it seems to not detect the hatch, dunno whats up with that), or flank them using the hatch

Just save time, and makes you less vulnerable while rappelling

Get you into obj if time is running out,

Can help you with certain spawnpeeks, like if someone is watching the ladder in Alley Access, you can rappel to the left and possibly get an easy kill,

Rushing is also still an option, but its pretty much russian roulette if you didnt drone the area.

Probably a few more uses that i didnt list, but i think thats a lot of uses for 1 gadget, certainly not "useless"
Even if this is true that she has another ways for playing her but still; all those advantages are probably not worth it wasting a pick just to get a lucky free kill :/, Ash can still do this better at any way, the hatch thing is almost a nonsense thing since it's more situational than warden's gadget...
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UbiYubble 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 11:09 
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
1. Delete her current primaries.

2. Replace them with the PDW9 (Jackal's SMG) and the SASG-12 (Russian shotgun).

3. Allow her to shoot while entering the window/hatch/doorway/etc.

Thank you for sharing your suggestions, Viable!

This is the second Operator that I've seen players suggest getting Jackal's SMG. As someone who uses it more than the C7E, I approve.

This is also something I've seen when players suggest a buff to Amaru, but if she's shooting, where does her Garra Hook go? She's holding it while it pulls her forward.
Viable_Golem4375 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 11:18 
引用自 UbiYubble
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
1. Delete her current primaries.

2. Replace them with the PDW9 (Jackal's SMG) and the SASG-12 (Russian shotgun).

3. Allow her to shoot while entering the window/hatch/doorway/etc.

Thank you for sharing your suggestions, Viable!

This is the second Operator that I've seen players suggest getting Jackal's SMG. As someone who uses it more than the C7E, I approve.

This is also something I've seen when players suggest a buff to Amaru, but if she's shooting, where does her Garra Hook go? She's holding it while it pulls her forward.

Maybe a redesign where it has a different handle allowing her to hold it with one arm? Or maybe an animation change where she has both the gun and hook handle in her hand at once?
Consent 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 11:18 
引用自 UbiYubble
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
1. Delete her current primaries.

2. Replace them with the PDW9 (Jackal's SMG) and the SASG-12 (Russian shotgun).

3. Allow her to shoot while entering the window/hatch/doorway/etc.

Thank you for sharing your suggestions, Viable!

This is the second Operator that I've seen players suggest getting Jackal's SMG. As someone who uses it more than the C7E, I approve.

This is also something I've seen when players suggest a buff to Amaru, but if she's shooting, where does her Garra Hook go? She's holding it while it pulls her forward.
It might sound like a weird way to do it, but if she can pull her torso closer to the hook, she can place her upper arm in front of the handle, while holding a pistol. Preferably less accuracy/some shaking... No clue im just working a way around his suggestion
Consent 2020 年 1 月 8 日 上午 11:49 
引用自 Admiral Dugaul
引用自 Viable_Golem4375
And going up through hatches, it's good for that as well, and what's the point in an operator who's entire ability is to save maybe 10 seconds while rappelling?
10 seconds can make a huge difference in a game where TTK is measured in tenths of a second
TTK?
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