MMR?

[Raz]

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

[Dean]

Play Terrorist Hunt, it's more fun.

[Raz]

引用自 Koons：

引用自 Duckman：

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

If you regularly play diamonds, you either need to play ranked to get the "low" rank you want so you can not get destroyed, or derank if you are already ranked.

I play casual

引用自 ☭ Registered Sexual offender：

then you'd have poeple crying about 2 minute queues in casual. Just learn from the diamonds. Theyre often overly confident in non ranked matches , thats how i aced a premade of diamonds as montagne

I get your point, but that is still a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanic..

引用自 Crow：

Play Terrorist Hunt, it's more fun.

You are subjectively wrong.





Just kidding, but it is super boring.

[Roujiamo 南蛮主义者]

If you want to at with people who have a similar skill as you, play ranked, simple as.

[Raz]

引用自 Conservative party UK：

If you want to at with people who have a similar skill as you, play ranked, simple as.

I wanna wait with ranked till Im not ♥♥♥♥. I think thats reasonable. What I dont think is reasonable is that casual matchmaking sucks and you find that ok for some reason.

[Admiral Obvious]

引用自 Duckman：

引用自 Conservative party UK：

If you want to at with people who have a similar skill as you, play ranked, simple as.

I wanna wait with ranked till Im not ♥♥♥♥. I think thats reasonable. What I dont think is reasonable is that casual matchmaking sucks and you find that ok for some reason.

Casual is what it is. Ranked arguably has better Matchmaking, but if you are truly that bad, your'e going to be put with the trolls in the super low ranks.

[Raz]

引用自 Koons：

引用自 Duckman：

I wanna wait with ranked till Im not ♥♥♥♥. I think thats reasonable. What I dont think is reasonable is that casual matchmaking sucks and you find that ok for some reason.

Not if you want relatively fair casual; Casual matchmaking is now based on your rank. If you are unranked, you go against everybody pretty much.

Thats is unnacceptable by any standards if you ask me.

引用自 Admiral Obvious：

引用自 Duckman：

I wanna wait with ranked till Im not ♥♥♥♥. I think thats reasonable. What I dont think is reasonable is that casual matchmaking sucks and you find that ok for some reason.

Casual is what it is. Ranked arguably has better Matchmaking, but if you are truly that bad, your'e going to be put with the trolls in the super low ranks.

Thats problematic..

[⭕⃤ ᠌Pimf⭕⃤]

引用自 Duckman：

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

IM pretty sure once you get a rank you get matched with people around your rank in casual... If not they are addign that.... then again i might be completly wrong

[Raz]

引用自 Will-em024：

引用自 Duckman：

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

IM pretty sure once you get a rank you get matched with people around your rank in casual... If not they are addign that.... then again i might be completly wrong

I doubt its very hard to just add seperate or somehow connected MMR for casual.
A lot of other games do it, Why shouldnt R6?

[Admiral Obvious]

引用自 Duckman：

引用自 Will-em024：

IM pretty sure once you get a rank you get matched with people around your rank in casual... If not they are addign that.... then again i might be completly wrong

I doubt its very hard to just add seperate or somehow connected MMR for casual.
A lot of other games do it, Why shouldnt R6?

They did, it made casual queues for high tier players obscenely long, until they significantly relaxed it.

[Raz]

引用自 Admiral Obvious：

引用自 Duckman：

I doubt its very hard to just add seperate or somehow connected MMR for casual.
A lot of other games do it, Why shouldnt R6?

They did, it made casual queues for high tier players obscenely long, until they significantly relaxed it.

Theres a big difference between relaxing it and having newbies like me go up againts diamonds.

[Floppy]

引用自 Duckman：

引用自 Koons：

Not if you want relatively fair casual; Casual matchmaking is now based on your rank. If you are unranked, you go against everybody pretty much.

Thats is unnacceptable by any standards if you ask me.

引用自 Admiral Obvious：

Casual is what it is. Ranked arguably has better Matchmaking, but if you are truly that bad, your'e going to be put with the trolls in the super low ranks.

Thats problematic..

So you want casual to become ranked? Why would anyone play ranked then?

[calluM]

引用自 Duckman：

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

Playing against Diamonds is a good thing for lower level players. You get to learn how it is they're playing, common spots they watch, you get to see kill cams when you die to see how they knew you was there so that you don't make the same mistake again etc. etc.

Casual is just that, casual. It's made for warming up/low level players/playing casually. If you're looking for an MMR system, you should go ranked.

[Raz]

引用自 Ƥ₥ῲ Floppy：

引用自 Duckman：

Thats is unnacceptable by any standards if you ask me.


Thats problematic..

So you want casual to become ranked? Why would anyone play ranked then?

How is that what you see from what I say? Does the existance of a ranking in order to balance players with other players of their skill level make things competetive?

引用自 Clautism is my city：

引用自 Duckman：

I am pretty bad at R6 Siege myself, and I keep getting into games with people that are simply more experienced and better then me in everything. Every single game is worst of my team and I rarely get kills. I've been playing a while, so I do know how to play, Im just worse at quick responses and tactical coordination, etc. Cant there be an MMR system for casual as well, cause I've been playing against diamonds a lot. If so, how is it broken? If not, why not? Its idiotic.
Does anyone know?

Playing against Diamonds is a good thing for lower level players. You get to learn how it is they're playing, common spots they watch, you get to see kill cams when you die to see how they knew you was there so that you don't make the same mistake again etc. etc.

Casual is just that, casual. It's made for warming up/low level players/playing casually. If you're looking for an MMR system, you should go ranked.

While you are correct that newbies that play againts diamonds will get better eventually, a lot of them, including me, will get frustrated. It shouldnt be a problem. New players should play againts fellow new players for a while before having to deal with high level players. It is unnacceptably frustrating if you join in the game and get no kills and always die at the start, which happens esspecialy for players that come from other shooters due to being used to another kind of playstyle.

The bad outweighs the good in new players matching off againts far superior players.

[calluM]

引用自 Duckman：

引用自 Ƥ₥ῲ Floppy：

So you want casual to become ranked? Why would anyone play ranked then?

How is that what you see from what I say? Does the existance of a ranking in order to balance players with other players of their skill level make things competetive?

引用自 Clautism is my city：

Playing against Diamonds is a good thing for lower level players. You get to learn how it is they're playing, common spots they watch, you get to see kill cams when you die to see how they knew you was there so that you don't make the same mistake again etc. etc.

Casual is just that, casual. It's made for warming up/low level players/playing casually. If you're looking for an MMR system, you should go ranked.

While you are correct that newbies that play againts diamonds will get better eventually, a lot of them, including me, will get frustrated. It shouldnt be a problem. New players should play againts fellow new players for a while before having to deal with high level players. It is unnacceptably frustrating if you join in the game and get no kills and always die at the start, which happens esspecialy for players that come from other shooters due to being used to another kind of playstyle.

The bad outweighs the good in new players matching off againts far superior players.

The simple solution; stop getting frustrated.

Realise that they're a higher rank, they're more experienced. Mimic their playstyle, how they peak, where they use their abilities. Learn from your mistakes instead of getting frustrated. It's casual, it wasnt made to have a rank system like Ranked.

You used the example of dying early in the round and having no kills; thats the case in most games. You aren't going to improve by not dying early into the rounds or having no kills. Experience and muscle memory is key in this game. When I was starting off I was the exact same, until a certain situation happened to me 2 or 3 times, at which point I just learnt to look for repetitive spawnpeeks/angles/kill holes etc.

[Raz]

引用自 Clautism is my city：

引用自 Duckman：

How is that what you see from what I say? Does the existance of a ranking in order to balance players with other players of their skill level make things competetive?


While you are correct that newbies that play againts diamonds will get better eventually, a lot of them, including me, will get frustrated. It shouldnt be a problem. New players should play againts fellow new players for a while before having to deal with high level players. It is unnacceptably frustrating if you join in the game and get no kills and always die at the start, which happens esspecialy for players that come from other shooters due to being used to another kind of playstyle.

The bad outweighs the good in new players matching off againts far superior players.

The simple solution; stop getting frustrated.

Realise that they're a higher rank, they're more experienced. Mimic their playstyle, how they peak, where they use their abilities. Learn from your mistakes instead of getting frustrated. It's casual, it wasnt made to have a rank system like Ranked.

You used the example of dying early in the round and having no kills; thats the case in most games. You aren't going to improve by not dying early into the rounds or having no kills. Experience and muscle memory is key in this game. When I was starting off I was the exact same, until a certain situation happened to me 2 or 3 times, at which point I just learnt to look for repetitive spawnpeeks/angles/kill holes etc.

While I know that getting frustrated is childish and idiotic, you cant just say "Dont get frustrated".
I cant simply mimic others and therefore become as good as them, thats not how it works in games as complex as R6. I can note however that I can notice that Im getting better, but that is not a good way to get better. I cant tell you how many people stop playing the game because of frustration, because I dont know, but I can guess that it is about 1 of 10 purchasers, perhaps less.

Thats not how to learning curves should be. This isnt a single player game with an immense learning curve, like some of my favorite grand strategy games, where immense learning curves are okay, since you can take your time and there isnt any toxicity from the community.
This is not good game design.