Which is better Hard Breacher?

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Which one is Good Thermite, Hibana, Maverick or Ace

[twunny phaiv]

They're better for different situations. Thermite is generally better if you need a very specific wall opened completely (garage on Consulate, bakery/cigar on Kafe, etc.), Hibana's better if you don't need that but instead play at long angles or need to open hatches. Maverick's a bit of a flex hard breach, he can open up a whole wall in a pinch, or two hatches if you're skilled but he doesn't fit those roles as well as the other two.
Sometimes you want to run two or even three hard breachers at once depending on the map, examples of maps that can benefit from multiple hard breachers are Clubhouse and Bank.

Edit: forgot about Ace, he's gonna be the best hard breacher in the game lmao

[Igotdild4u]

Everyone arguing but Ace is 100% going to be better than thermite. Hibana might be better situationally, but ace seems like the best breacher from what ive seen

[Wiesell]

Maverick is not really a full-time hard breacher. He is there to replace a lot of operators mainly thatcher. Sure he can be a hard breacher but he could be used more to get rid of bandit batteries or destroying things with frag grenades.

[[N63] chrisragnar]

Thermite - good because he opens a big hole pretty fast and he can trick bandit, but is prone to flankers that could kill him or shoot his charge. He can open hatches with electro claw active.

Ace - good because it opens a big hole from safety. But he is still prone to flankers shooting his gadget, his gadget is slow, he can't trick, his gadget can be stopped from the other side before they finish by mute, bandit, kaid and all explosives. I'd say he is weaker than thermite, but alittle safer.

Hibana - is slow to open holes and have limited size, but can do it from safety and her gadget is difficult to completely destroy for flankers. She can't open hatches with electro claw.

Mav is kind of a tosser

[t-blud]

Maverick is good at distracting people with his murder holes, Hibana is the most versatile and Thermite is the most effective.

[Laati]

Thermite is good for blowing really big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ holes. However, he is very simple. Besides blowing up Electroclaw hatches by placing his charge near the hatch and tricking bandit. He doesn't really have any complicated tricks. He just makes a really big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hole.

However he is susceptible to flankers. As he needs to get close to the wall to actually place the charge. And his placement and activation is slow as ♥♥♥♥.

Also he is susceptible to Mute.

Also his rifle is ♥♥♥♥.

Ace is much more safe than Thermite. Just throw that can at that wall and boom.. hole. Unfortunately his gadget can be destroyed by explosives at the other end. Or just plain shot at by flankers/dumb teammates. However, he can open much more than Thermite. Thermite only has 2 charges while Ace has 3.

Ace is also immune to Bandit Tricking.
Although he can get Mute Tricked. Or even.. Kaid Tricked.

His rifle's pretty good though. Both Thermite's and Ace's shotgun is.. decent. But it's a shotgun on attack though.

Hibana can open smaller holes. She can make a peak hole from longer angles using her gadget. She can also destroy Mira Mirrors as well. Essentially she is less for total destruction and more manipulative with her destruction.

In case if you didn't want a complete wall break.

She is also the safest hardbreacher possible. As unlike Ace. Who slowly destroys walls. Hibana destroys all at once. So you don't need to be afraid of getting shot while the wall is being opened.

Her rifle's good if you can handle the 21 bullet capacity. (Personally, I think they should add 5 more bullets.) Shotgun is ♥♥♥♥. Literally the slowest and yet does the same damage as the SAS Shotty.

Maverick is also not for total destruction. Although he can break down a reinforced wall if there are no other options. It takes a while though.

He mainly makes tiny holes so that he can shoot people using them. Be careful though as they can shoot you too.

He is immune to Mute and can make holes on electrified walls. Although you'd still get shocked.

His rifle's also pretty good. His DMR is ♥♥♥♥ though. Too little capacity, too little damage for said capacity.

[UbiYubble]

I'm still going with Thermite in terms of quickness and efficiency. Ace is the slowest of all the hard breacher and needs two of his charges to get hatches as opposed to one cluser of Hibana charges. Also, Ace can get his gaded destroyed extremely quickly by impacts and Bandit batteries/Kaid claws.

[Unlaid American]

Originally posted by N63 chrisragnar:

Thermite - good because he opens a big hole pretty fast and he can trick bandit, but is prone to flankers that could kill him or shoot his charge. He can open hatches with electro claw active.

Ace - good because it opens a big hole from safety. But he is still prone to flankers shooting his gadget, his gadget is slow, he can't trick, his gadget can be stopped from the other side before they finish by mute, bandit, kaid and all explosives. I'd say he is weaker than thermite, but alittle safer.

Hibana - is slow to open holes and have limited size, but can do it from safety and her gadget is difficult to completely destroy for flankers. She can't open hatches with electro claw.

Mav is kind of a tosser

Doesn't matter if Ace can't trick if you just open up the whole wall so bandit can't hold the wall.