the TCSG-12 needs a buff

[dmcdan]

The TCSG-12 has been a very entertaining weapon to use, and a pretty decent one also. High recoil, low mag size, high damage. but since the nerf, it's been laughable at long ranges. and it's all because of one mexican friend: goyo. kaid's good DMR/shotgun that was balanced on him, got nerfed because of goyo. I mean, goyo is a 2 speed and, where is this rule about "2 speed defenders cannot have ACOGS" that i've heard them say. the TCSG-12 from 21 meters away (aka a long hallway, not even that far away.) does less damage, then frost/buck's pistol. a pistol, does more damage from long range, then a shotgun with slugs. 5 shots on a weapon with high recoil and a low magazine size is sad. that's why i've come up with something to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this situation.

1. buff the TCSG-12 back to 80 damage (get rid of the 2 mags they added also, basically undo the nerf)
2. remove the TCSG-12 from goyo, and give him the supernova (rn the only person with the supernova is echo on defense, so why not another? also amaru uses it.)

the TCSG-12 at 80 damage was perfect, because it was a 2 shot, like all DMR's should be, it had high recoil, so it took some skill to use unlike the MP5. anyways, tell me what y'all thinka this.

[Wiesell]

I really want kaid to have the TCSG12 that has ACOG and 84 damage but goyo not have an ACOG but still 84 damage. Like why the nerf?

[dmcdan]

引用自 Wiesell：

I really want kaid to have the TCSG12 that has ACOG and 84 damage but goyo not have an ACOG but still 84 damage. Like why the nerf?

I agree, it was bound to get nerfed. and kaid suffered with it.

[Copy & Cat]

They didn't like the high damage as made too many players in a state of "one touch death" after one shot

[dmcdan]

引用自 No running in the quarentine：

They didn't like the high damage as made too many players in a state of "one touch death" after one shot

at least make it do as much damage as a revolver? it'd be a minor nerf and better than 5 shot to kill. rn it's TTK is laughable.

[twunny phaiv]

"but siege is a close quarters game!! gunfights rarely take place past 21 meters!!"

Allow me to show you an accurate visual representation of exactly how far 21 meters is in-game:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2089799410

This crap is honestly the dumbest change they ever made to the game and I'm still angry about it. Was it too strong on Kaid alone? Maybe, maybe. Tone it down to 70 damage and a consistent 3-shot at range and call it a day. Just for crying out loud DON'T give it to a 2-speed with the most meta breaking gadget since Mira you absolute buffoons, you utter CHEESEheads

[Wiesell]

引用自 twunny phaiv：

"but siege is a close quarters game!! gunfights rarely take place past 21 meters!!"

Allow me to show you an accurate visual representation of exactly how far 21 meters is in-game:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2089799410

This crap is honestly the dumbest change they ever made to the game and I'm still angry about it. Was it too strong on Kaid alone? Maybe, maybe. Tone it down to 70 damage and a consistent 3-shot at range and call it a day. Just for crying out loud DON'T give it to a 2-speed with the most meta breaking gadget since Mira you absolute buffoons, you utter CHEESEheads

Bruh chill, they only made kaid broken not goyo at least. They are very slow to implement change and that sucks.

[twunny phaiv]

引用自 Wiesell：

引用自 twunny phaiv：

"but siege is a close quarters game!! gunfights rarely take place past 21 meters!!"

Allow me to show you an accurate visual representation of exactly how far 21 meters is in-game:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2089799410

This crap is honestly the dumbest change they ever made to the game and I'm still angry about it. Was it too strong on Kaid alone? Maybe, maybe. Tone it down to 70 damage and a consistent 3-shot at range and call it a day. Just for crying out loud DON'T give it to a 2-speed with the most meta breaking gadget since Mira you absolute buffoons, you utter CHEESEheads

Bruh chill, they only made kaid broken not goyo at least. They are very slow to implement change and that sucks.

I will not chill as long as we have cheeseheads working on this game

[catharsis]

引用自 twunny phaiv：

引用自 Wiesell：

Bruh chill, they only made kaid broken not goyo at least. They are very slow to implement change and that sucks.

I will not chill as long as we have cheeseheads working on this game

They hired people who previously worked at a cheese factory for part of the balancing team.

[twunny phaiv]

引用自 circle.：

引用自 twunny phaiv：

I will not chill as long as we have cheeseheads working on this game

They hired people who previously worked at a cheese factory for part of the balancing team.

I knew it all along