ITA12L and ACS12 BUFF

[Kissa Ninja]

ACS12 is completely broken.
-Super weak, good luck scoring a kill even within the effective range of shotguns.
-Slow fire rate.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see whats wrong here. Slow firerate? Low damage?

ITA12L
-It has one of the best dmg:s for shotguns (50)
-it suffers from a massive dmg dropoff
-It cant score easiest kills at close range.
The crosshair size is ideal but it lacks the dmg.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjV9wkMZmcE&list=LLg2A6RLlbc9BuiJjXK1EbiA&index=148&t=0

[Stillmatic]

Yeah

[Shiro♌]

ITA12L ain't really that bad, by my opinion, but the ACS12... That's.. Amongst the worst weapons in the game, and I think, it should be buffed towards higher fire rate (still semi-auto) and a higher damage. The spread may be unnecessary in some situations, which is why you have to position yourself properly to be able to use it, so that's where I wouldn't buff it.

[Kissa Ninja]

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

ITA12L ain't really that bad, by my opinion, but the ACS12... That's.. Amongst the worst weapons in the game, and I think, it should be buffed towards higher fire rate (still semi-auto) and a higher damage. The spread may be unnecessary in some situations, which is why you have to position yourself properly to be able to use it, so that's where I wouldn't buff it.

I only use shotguns in this game. If ITA12L doesnt have the same capability to score kills the same way as lower dmg shotguns. Its super bad for a pump shotgun if it cant 1 shot people.

[twunny phaiv]

Where's the source that the ITA12L has a harsher damage dropoff curve? I thought all shotguns (or at least all pump shotties) had standardized damage dropoff? Could be wrong, idk

[Kissa Ninja]

Originally posted by twunny phaiv:

Where's the source that the ITA12L has a harsher damage dropoff curve? I thought all shotguns (or at least all pump shotties) had standardized damage dropoff? Could be wrong, idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHi_ip_GN78
6:58
it has the highest dmg dropoff at range

[Shiro♌]

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

ITA12L ain't really that bad, by my opinion, but the ACS12... That's.. Amongst the worst weapons in the game, and I think, it should be buffed towards higher fire rate (still semi-auto) and a higher damage. The spread may be unnecessary in some situations, which is why you have to position yourself properly to be able to use it, so that's where I wouldn't buff it.

I only use shotguns in this game. If ITA12L doesnt have the same capability to score kills the same way as lower dmg shotguns. Its super bad for a pump shotgun if it cant 1 shot people.

Well, that's just the way shotguns work in R6S...

[Kissa Ninja]

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

I only use shotguns in this game. If ITA12L doesnt have the same capability to score kills the same way as lower dmg shotguns. Its super bad for a pump shotgun if it cant 1 shot people.

Well, that's just the way shotguns work in R6S...

all shotguns can 1 shot

[twunny phaiv]

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

I only use shotguns in this game. If ITA12L doesnt have the same capability to score kills the same way as lower dmg shotguns. Its super bad for a pump shotgun if it cant 1 shot people.

Well, that's just the way shotguns work in R6S...

Shotguns should always onehit kill in close range, as long as your crosshair is in a good position. There's really no excuse to punish somebody for playing a limiting playstyle well.

[Shiro♌]

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

Well, that's just the way shotguns work in R6S...

all shotguns can 1 shot

I ain't denying it. I'm just pointing out, you have to be really hella close..

Originally posted by twunny phaiv:

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

Well, that's just the way shotguns work in R6S...

Shotguns should always onehit kill in close range, as long as your crosshair is in a good position. There's really no excuse to punish somebody for playing a limiting playstyle well.

I agree, but so what? I doubt, ACS12 will receive some love at all..

[Kissa Ninja]

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

all shotguns can 1 shot

I ain't denying it. I'm just pointing out, you have to be really hella close..

Originally posted by twunny phaiv:

Shotguns should always onehit kill in close range, as long as your crosshair is in a good position. There's really no excuse to punish somebody for playing a limiting playstyle well.

I agree, but so what? I doubt, ACS12 will receive some love at all..

"hella close" is 10m
9.5m is the average kill radius in r6s.

[Shiro♌]

Originally posted by Kissa Ninja:

Originally posted by Watanabe♌:

I ain't denying it. I'm just pointing out, you have to be really hella close..

I agree, but so what? I doubt, ACS12 will receive some love at all..

"hella close" is 10m
9.5m is the average kill radius in r6s.

Well, up to you. It's not that I'd believe it anyways.