Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege

Kissa Ninja (已封鎖) 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 5:36
Kali is bad, change my mind
Placing mute jammers is now slower than it was previous season, it feels like theres a slight delay.
When placing hatches during the animation the leg that pushes the lever down is out of place.

Kali
I dont understand the idea of Kali, how is ever a slow firing gun ever going to succeed in siege? Who came up with this idea?
Glaz isnt getting picked, people arent using DMR:s Maybe theres a reason why people dont use slow firerate guns?
Then what about her gadget? Wait she has one?
yea its a grenade launcher that destroys stuff but its better than what other ops have. Apparently this one goes trough reinforced walls so its a multi use zofia/ash gun.
I feel like Kali was created trough stupid fanbase thinking of a sniper operator.
引用自 UbiMorning:
引用自 Kissa Ninja
I took screenshots of the hatch where the leg is out of place during the animation.
Not sure if you can go see them.
Placing the mute jammer is slower than in previous season, you have to wait 1 second or before you can place it down.

Then what is Kali about? Is there any more ops that aren't "fraggers" To my understanding with any operator including Kali is able to "frag". You just need to hit everyone everytime.
Tactical game this can be but slow is something i wouldnt describe it.

As for the screenshots, I would suggest reporting them to support directly[support.ubi.com] so they can be looked into.
As for the Mute jammer, I barely noticed it if it was changed. Do you feel that second has made a huge difference?

Are you asking what kind of role Kali plays? When I meant slow, I only meant not nearly as fast pace as other FPS games. Tactical games tend to have a slower pace overall. I can understand that you feel Kali's rifle doesn't really match the rest of the game, which I can relate to a bit. I'm curious to see how people feel after the season is over. I think she still has a lot of potential, but I can understand not liking her because she doesn't fit your kind of ideal playstyle.
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Krunga 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 10:47 
In the TTS I managed to almost 1v5 like 4 times with her in the span of 2 games. It's the player not the operator.
Kissa Ninja (已封鎖) 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 10:56 
引用自 Sans Peter
In the TTS I managed to almost 1v5 like 4 times with her in the span of 2 games. It's the player not the operator.
nobody is saying playing her is impossible.
we all just know dmr:s and other slow firing weapons arent used... for certain reasons
Monarch 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 11:41 
Without getting emotional, I will try to explain why Kali and her bolt action sniper rifle can slowly change the game's meta

1. The current siege meta of defense operators is peek quick as possible and pre-fire, and get a headshot as much as you can. This is mainly due to the fact that most guns used by defenders are submachine gunes, that lacks DPS or stopping power compare to attacker's.
This is where Kali comes in. Kali can stop all that non-sense in one bullet. ONE.
You were arguing other guns can one shot them, faster. Which you are not completely wrong, but you have to keep in mind that unless they land a headshot, and during that 0.1 sec of time, you are exchanging bullets with your opponent. more often than not, defender's gun has higher rate of fire, which means they have better chance of headshots in that scenario most of the time, espeically if it is close range.
Kali can stop all that with one bullet. ONE. yes she miss and get killed, but no other gun in the game, untill now, can do that with bodyshots, which is not that hard to land.
You can argue BOSG does the same thing, but BOSG has range of 10 meters do that, which is not that far.

2. Kali can beat most spawnpeeking spots and peekers using her 12x scope.
having a big scope means you get to use really tight angles, less exposing yourself for counterfire, which means lot more safer option than most other guns.
She can make insanely small and tight angles, giving almost no chance of getting hit, and land a body shot in return. That is the whole idea behind sniping in actual modern warfare, and she can actually do this in this game, though not that long range however.

3. She has other utilites and good secondaries.
The devs knew that sniper with just bolt action sniper rifle is fun but can be unpopular amongst her teammates, so they added prob the most useful gadget you can think of : a EMP gernade style launcher. She can replace thatcher, which is viewed as one of the key operators in any matchup. Not to mention her secondaries are one of the best in the game, giving her more leeway with CQB too.
I would even argue that Kali will most definitely show up in pro-league soon, and prob will be banned almost every time, since pro players have lot better aim than normal peeps, and pull out her max potential, using insane angles and long range.

Trust me, Kali will be the one character that can slowly change the meta of this game right now.
最後修改者:Monarch; 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 11:47
Monarch 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 11:46 
引用自 Kissa Ninja
引用自 Sans Peter
In the TTS I managed to almost 1v5 like 4 times with her in the span of 2 games. It's the player not the operator.
nobody is saying playing her is impossible.
we all just know dmr:s and other slow firing weapons arent used... for certain reasons
DMR and bolt action sniper rifles are in different leagues tho. To be perfectly honest, I was always against bolt action sniper rifles since day 1 of siege because it can be stupid OP.
Kissa Ninja (已封鎖) 2019 年 12 月 4 日 上午 11:57 
引用自 Zest
引用自 Kissa Ninja
nobody is saying playing her is impossible.
we all just know dmr:s and other slow firing weapons arent used... for certain reasons
DMR and bolt action sniper rifles are in different leagues tho. To be perfectly honest, I was always against bolt action sniper rifles since day 1 of siege because it can be stupid OP.
It maybe for the pro league to aim at the head but for most people 3 shots at body will often do the trick.
Spawnpeeker can beat Kali just easily because in most cases their body is not visible, only head. Kali needs to hit the head. A spawnpeeker can fire multiple shots at kalis head.
Kali is not unstoppable at long range.
Its just a "meme" gun for siege. Only way i could see her in proleague is someone only using her gadget and running around with the pistol
Monarch 2019 年 12 月 4 日 下午 12:03 
引用自 Kissa Ninja
引用自 Zest
DMR and bolt action sniper rifles are in different leagues tho. To be perfectly honest, I was always against bolt action sniper rifles since day 1 of siege because it can be stupid OP.
It maybe for the pro league to aim at the head but for most people 3 shots at body will often do the trick.
Spawnpeeker can beat Kali just easily because in most cases their body is not visible, only head. Kali needs to hit the head. A spawnpeeker can fire multiple shots at kalis head.
Kali is not unstoppable at long range.
Its just a "meme" gun for siege. Only way i could see her in proleague is someone only using her gadget and running around with the pistol
Kali simply needs to land one body shot to down a spawnpeeker, and unless she is dumb enough to expose her location and body that much, that can be same for most attackers anyway. Yes it doesnt kill them, but they are defenseless and likely be killed soon after and even if they somehow survive the shot and get revived (which is why I think doc is her low key counter), they have 10 hp for the whole game.

Trust me dude, watch pro league couple of weeks later and you will know what I mean. Many of the pros and streamers already agreed that she is super good, and quite possibly broken.
最後修改者:Monarch; 2019 年 12 月 4 日 下午 12:03
Igotdild4u 2019 年 12 月 5 日 上午 5:49 
Kali is 100% broken, but I am glad she drastically reduced the amount of people that like to spawn peek every round.
Bones 2019 年 12 月 5 日 上午 7:34 
引用自  Igotdild4u
Kali is 100% broken, but I am glad she drastically reduced the amount of people that like to spawn peek every round.
Yeah there's a few things that they need to fix but she's a cool op
Blur 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 1:47 
引用自 Kissa Ninja
I feel like Kali was created trough stupid fanbase thinking of a sniper operator.
Yes, not the first time something stupid was done for that reason tho
SirPotato 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 4:01 
How is Kali useless ? If you can't aim that's your issue, many DMRs are really good but the ARs attackers have are better overall, hence DMRs are 100% than shotties in many terms tbh... "Stupid fanbase thinking of sniper ops" like that using a sniper that oneshots is stupid lol
even tho that's an old discussion
最後修改者:SirPotato; 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 4:01
Kissa Ninja (已封鎖) 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 4:14 
引用自 Younesnake
How is Kali useless ? If you can't aim that's your issue, many DMRs are really good but the ARs attackers have are better overall, hence DMRs are 100% than shotties in many terms tbh... "Stupid fanbase thinking of sniper ops" like that using a sniper that oneshots is stupid lol
even tho that's an old discussion
i see more people missing their shots with DMR:s and Kali than people who cant hit the wall inside a barn
NocturnalCanadian 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 4:31 
I personally think her gun is good, however I don't think her gadget fits with how she should be played.
Kissa Ninja (已封鎖) 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 4:53 
引用自 NocturnalCanadian
I personally think her gun is good, however I don't think her gadget fits with how she should be played.
her gadget was a afterthought.
Ash projectile is the "♥♥♥♥ we've run out of ideas gadget"
Blur 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 5:04 
引用自 Kissa Ninja
引用自 NocturnalCanadian
I personally think her gun is good, however I don't think her gadget fits with how she should be played.
her gadget was a afterthought.
Ash projectile is the "♥♥♥♥ we've run out of ideas gadget"
her whole rifle is a gadget smh, like cav's luison
Magmag 2020 年 1 月 11 日 上午 5:25 
I think Kali is great ... If you like the slow and distant type of playstyle and if you have the patience and awareness you can destroy people with her
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