UMP-45

[Stillmatic]

Buff please, mostly fire rate a little

[Krunga]

I'd like this change, Pulse wouldn't benefit that much but Castle would.

[Stillmatic]

Fax

[ABC]

no

[Stillmatic]

Why

[♂ keikaekay ♂]

Originally posted by I'm Really Bad:

Why

Low recoil and high damage. Only limitation is the slow fire rate, but helps conserve the 25 mag count.

Originally posted by Giorno:

no

[Copy & Cat]

Cant buff re-used weappns if another character has it

[Rigly]

Why does it need a buff?

[Minds]

Originally posted by Fatal Cutie:

Cant buff re-used weappns if another character has it

Then why did they buff the FMG9 only after it was under performing on Nokk, but Smoke has had it since he came out?

[deadboys]

this is so ez

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by Minds:

Originally posted by Fatal Cutie:

Cant buff re-used weappns if another character has it

Then why did they buff the FMG9 only after it was under performing on Nokk, but Smoke has had it since he came out?

That's the funny thing they wanted to ONLY buff for nokk but by proxy buffed for smoke at the same time by mistake the patchnotes originally said "buffed nokk's FMG-9" and they they had to correct it to actually say smoke as also affected by it due proxy, same reason they can't buff MPX for warnden, because valk is already pretty strong

[UbiYubble]

Originally posted by I'm Bad:

Buff please, mostly fire rate a little

Are you hoping to see a buff for the weapon in general or specifically for Castle? Normally players asking for a UMP boost are hoping to see it on Castle, and the rebuttal is that buffing it for him would inadvertently buff Pulse - who is someone players feel is already strong enough.

[Viable_Golem4375]

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

Originally posted by I'm Bad:

Buff please, mostly fire rate a little

Are you hoping to see a buff for the weapon in general or specifically for Castle? Normally players asking for a UMP boost are hoping to see it on Castle, and the rebuttal is that buffing it for him would inadvertently buff Pulse - who is someone players feel is already strong enough.

What yall should do is give Castle a different weapon entirely, the UMP makes sense on pulse as his gadget is quite strong and he needs the accuracy because he will often be going for wallbangs. It makes no sense on Castle as on the rare occasion you are able to do any kind of strat with his gadget, it usually involves surprising enemies from the other side of it. Imo a weapon like the Scorpion would fit Castle perfectly.

[Katsu]

Originally posted by Viable_Golem4375:

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

Are you hoping to see a buff for the weapon in general or specifically for Castle? Normally players asking for a UMP boost are hoping to see it on Castle, and the rebuttal is that buffing it for him would inadvertently buff Pulse - who is someone players feel is already strong enough.

What yall should do is give Castle a different weapon entirely, the UMP makes sense on pulse as his gadget is quite strong and he needs the accuracy because he will often be going for wallbangs. It makes no sense on Castle as on the rare occasion you are able to do any kind of strat with his gadget, it usually involves surprising enemies from the other side of it. Imo a weapon like the Scorpion would fit Castle perfectly.

why would a Scorpion fit Castle more?

[Copy & Cat]

Originally posted by 「Lukja」:

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

Are you hoping to see a buff for the weapon in general or specifically for Castle? Normally players asking for a UMP boost are hoping to see it on Castle, and the rebuttal is that buffing it for him would inadvertently buff Pulse - who is someone players feel is already strong enough.

Can you not only adjust stats for one op? Maybe rename it UMP-9 with the current stats and give castle a buffed 'UMP 45'

They could have done to nokk, warden, amaru, goyo and wamai so that way they could buff and rebalance them out more freely yet they choose to go the easy route. Oryx is getting the MP5 that was nerfed because it was already pretty strong with ACOG without ACOG.

[Stillmatic]

Originally posted by UbiYubble:

Originally posted by I'm Bad:

Buff please, mostly fire rate a little

Are you hoping to see a buff for the weapon in general or specifically for Castle? Normally players asking for a UMP boost are hoping to see it on Castle, and the rebuttal is that buffing it for him would inadvertently buff Pulse - who is someone players feel is already strong enough.

I mean you gave him the super shortty as a new gun for him so another new primary makes no sense. Then maybe either make his ump different or switch the shotgun.