Fortress Is Terrible

[stripper spitshake™]

Ubisoft. We dont want these 100 room maps with twists and turns and every time you enter a room you have to watch 5 doors for roamers. Tower, Vila, Hereford Rework, and now this?

They are the exact same maps just with a different setting. Take the map Kanals for example. Its simple yet good to play. This year has been the worst year for seasons. Every map has been a big maze with 20 doors in one room. I've been playing since Red Crow in 2016 and last year when they added Tower in Operation White Noise. I still dont know my way around that map.

[Don't feed the ducks™]

Well with more and more operators bringing more and more options, the maps also need to reflect that.

[Jinn-Gon Qui]

Speak for yourself. Your personal experience doesn't reflect to others' way around the game.

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by Doomslaya':

Speak for yourself. Your personal experience doesn't reflect to others' way around the game.

Im not speaking for myself. Its not my problem its Ubisofts. The maps are now just mazes of rooms and stairs. And this isnt my "personal experience". I used it as an example.

If you're going to reply. Atleast make sense smh

[ShodaN]

Everytime a new map releases idiots believe it to be a "maze", because they lack the ability to memorize some simple layouts.

[EagleClaws17]

Originally posted by ShodaN:

Everytime a new map releases idiots believe it to be a "maze", because they lack the ability to memorize some simple layouts.

This!
Sure, the new maps arent simple, but with time+Practice you get the hang out of it.
right now Villa is one of my Favorite Maps, and I kinda like the new hereford, but I still have some issues with the 2./3. floor. Also, where should be the fun of learning the maps when they are so simple that you can learn 75% of all possible angles in 1 20 round 1v1?

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by ShodaN:

Everytime a new map releases idiots believe it to be a "maze", because they lack the ability to memorize some simple layouts.

They are mazes. The layout in the new maps arent as good as something like Themepark or Chalet. Those maps arent mazes and are actually pretty good. These new maps are just one giant building in the center with so many rooms and hallways and doors.

Idiots like you will eat up anything Ubi throws on the plate. The new maps are lazy and annoying because of how much it drives away from the main point of the game. Its been about 26 hours since the new operation and every time Im attacking I will get jumped by an ela or cav sitting in a room off to the side of me, on the other side of the map. This is a problem due to the fact we cant peek 3 doors in 1 second whenever we enter a room. I wanted to avoid posting on here because I knew I would get people saying that its normal and I just suck. I do suck but these new maps have no character to them. Its just one big death maze/arena. Like fair enough if you wanna like these maps. But it doesnt matter if you like them or not. These new maps are lazy, annoying, and just pander to the tryhards who wanna roam with 3 speeds and spawnpeek. And you could just say that im "mad cuz bad", but that doesnt matter now. Tower, Villa, and Fortress are the same maps just with different settings. Like oh look. We're in an office skyscraper, and now we're in a Italian compound in the countryside, oh and now we're in a middle eastern fortress. They all look the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ same.

Sorry for my rant. I'll wait for you to reply

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by Don't feed the ducks™:

Well with more and more operators bringing more and more options, the maps also need to reflect that.

Define reflect? Nomads gadget can be used on other maps just as well as Fortress. And Kaids is a bandit mine that can shock hatches. They both do not require the new map to show off or use their abilities. And same goes for all other operators. Flawed logic mate

[DivineLion]

you want something like cancer house then?

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by EagleClaws17:

Originally posted by ShodaN:

Everytime a new map releases idiots believe it to be a "maze", because they lack the ability to memorize some simple layouts.

This!
Sure, the new maps arent simple, but with time+Practice you get the hang out of it.
right now Villa is one of my Favorite Maps, and I kinda like the new hereford, but I still have some issues with the 2./3. floor. Also, where should be the fun of learning the maps when they are so simple that you can learn 75% of all possible angles in 1 20 round 1v1?

Thats what makes the old maps so much fun. Simple yet hard. Look at something like kafe dostoyevsky. It looks so hard when you go into it. But after one game, you know most of what is going on. I still dont know my way around tower because there is so much extra space and rooms on the outside of the main part of the map, that I never go to because OBJ is always the center of the map somewhere. If you were to turn off the hud so you couldnt see the OBJ marker. I would either search the entire map untill I found it, or I would walk right into it and get destroyed.
And this new map is still pretty much like Tower. Its just rooms and rooms of nothing, No purpose other than to give cav and Jager better hiding spots to flank from, Flanking isnt a problem its just when you have atleast 20 places to flank from

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by DivineLion:

you want something like cancer house then?

No. kafe dostoyevsky is a good example of a fun map. Isnt to complex. This is siege we are playing keep in mind. Not some haunted house exploration

[DivineLion]

Originally posted by Verc.:

Originally posted by DivineLion:

you want something like cancer house then?

No. kafe dostoyevsky is a good example of a fun map. Isnt to complex. This is siege we are playing keep in mind. Not some haunted house exploration

eh i prefer coastline

[Don't feed the ducks™]

Originally posted by Verc.:

Originally posted by Don't feed the ducks™:

Well with more and more operators bringing more and more options, the maps also need to reflect that.

Define reflect? Nomads gadget can be used on other maps just as well as Fortress. And Kaids is a bandit mine that can shock hatches. They both do not require the new map to show off or use their abilities. And same goes for all other operators. Flawed logic mate

Well with Kaid, Bandit, Mute, Castle etc you can fully lock down a room in some maps. So I think it's better to have more complex maps with more points of entry to counter this.

As an attacker you can also attack from different angles just as well as they can defend. Just because you don't know the spots yet doesn't mean they suck. You just have to get good.

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by DivineLion:

Originally posted by Verc.:

No. kafe dostoyevsky is a good example of a fun map. Isnt to complex. This is siege we are playing keep in mind. Not some haunted house exploration

eh i prefer coastline

Originally posted by DivineLion:

Originally posted by Verc.:

No. kafe dostoyevsky is a good example of a fun map. Isnt to complex. This is siege we are playing keep in mind. Not some haunted house exploration

eh i prefer coastline

Yep. Coastline Is another good example of a fun map. That one would take a bit longer to learn but once you do. It feels like it belongs. Unlike Tower or Villa. I dont hear people saying "Yes! We got Tower"

[NIKFS]

Originally posted by Verc.:

Originally posted by Doomslaya':

Speak for yourself. Your personal experience doesn't reflect to others' way around the game.

Im not speaking for myself. Its not my problem its Ubisofts. The maps are now just mazes of rooms and stairs. And this isnt my "personal experience". I used it as an example.

If you're going to reply. Atleast make sense smh

you should be speaking for yourself though, youre the one disliking bigger maps, others love them
i rather play the bigger maps than the smaller ones, personal preference, thats what he meant...

Originally posted by Verc.:

Originally posted by DivineLion:

eh i prefer coastline

Originally posted by DivineLion:

eh i prefer coastline

Yep. Coastline Is another good example of a fun map. That one would take a bit longer to learn but once you do. It feels like it belongs. Unlike Tower or Villa. I dont hear people saying "Yes! We got Tower"

i would say that, if i would use my mic for such unneccessary callouts, which i dont, i spare others from my static as much as i can, only giving short info as quickly as possible

[stripper spitshake™]

Originally posted by NIK_F_S:

Originally posted by Verc.:

Im not speaking for myself. Its not my problem its Ubisofts. The maps are now just mazes of rooms and stairs. And this isnt my "personal experience". I used it as an example.

If you're going to reply. Atleast make sense smh

you should be speaking for yourself though, youre the one disliking bigger maps, others love them
i rather play the bigger maps than the smaller ones, personal preference, thats what he meant...

Originally posted by Verc.:

Yep. Coastline Is another good example of a fun map. That one would take a bit longer to learn but once you do. It feels like it belongs. Unlike Tower or Villa. I dont hear people saying "Yes! We got Tower"

i would say that, if i would use my mic for such unneccessary callouts, which i dont, i spare others from my static as much as i can, only giving short info as quickly as possible

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Im not talking just for me. Dont act like im the only one who hates the news maps. I hate them, my friends hate them, even randoms I pair up with say they hate them. Use your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ brain