MPX

[★ MILF lover]

Should MPX need a buff 🤔🤔🤔????

[dont_ask_me_again]

No. It’s actually one of the better weapons in the game... just use angled grip and laser heads.

Valk has strong weapons.

[★ MILF lover]

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

No. It’s actually one of the better weapons in the game... just use angled grip and laser heads.

Valk has strong weapons.

But the gun damage is kinda wack

[Mareq]

Originally posted by ★Jeff:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

No. It’s actually one of the better weapons in the game... just use angled grip and laser heads.

Valk has strong weapons.

But the gun damage is kinda wack

thats not what wack means

[★ MILF lover]

Originally posted by Mr.StealYoCalcium:

Originally posted by ★Jeff:

But the gun damage is kinda wack

thats not what wack means

Then whats mean??
Damage is kinda weak..

[Maldo Straken [FR]]

wack
adjective US slang
UK /wæk/ US /wæk/

not good:
This is wack!

[The raped]

The gun is so accurate that damage becomes irrelevant. You can spray down heads from a long distance as long as you have good aim. If the gun were to get buffed, Valk would become too good, especially in high rank games

[Chinfu1189]

Knowing how most smgs have
Either High damage,Firerate or Acog as an attacthment and Valks smg only has good recoil then yess a buff would be nice

[dont_ask_me_again]

Originally posted by ExuberantRaptor:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

No. It’s actually one of the better weapons in the game... just use angled grip and laser heads.

Valk has strong weapons.

No. Her gun is objectively worse than other guns. Pretty much all SMGs are better than hers.

Higher recoil = less flick distance while shooting... and thus lower recoil > higher damage often than not since you can get headshots.

[The raped]

Originally posted by ExuberantRaptor:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

Higher recoil = less flick distance while shooting... and thus lower recoil > higher damage often than not since you can get headshots.

Almost all SMGs have just as easy to control recoil.
I can spray people across the map with the MP5, P90, MP5k, Kapkans and Tachankas SMG, Lesions SMG, Alibis SMG, and pretty much every SMG except for Elas.
Idk why after all this time you still refuse to admit you are wrong and keep lying about how her SMG is one of the best weapons.

Well, no. the MPX has the perfect rate of fire and low recoil to the point that it is really strong. You can spray with it at any range. The MPX shouldn't be buffed. It would become OP in higher ranks because the people there have good aim

The MPX is above average. Sure, every SMG is controllable, but not as good as the MPX

[EV0]

the gun damage is pretty weak, just a little more damage will do

[The raped]

Originally posted by Timor:

the gun damage is pretty weak, just a little more damage will do

Headshots matter more. It is easy to go for them with it

[Amogus]

Originally posted by Chinfu1189:

Knowing how most smgs have
Either High damage,Firerate or Acog as an attacthment and Valks smg only has good recoil then yess a buff would be nice

The thing is Valkyrie's SMG is actually balanced. Valkyrie was made before the times of the 1000 bullet per second laser SMG era, and thus her SMG is actually balanced. It has a considerable fire rate with alright damage and very controllable recoil. Even with that being the case, people have to consider the power of an operator's gadget as well, and Valkyrie's is very strong.

[Amogus]

Originally posted by ExuberantRaptor:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

Higher recoil = less flick distance while shooting... and thus lower recoil > higher damage often than not since you can get headshots.

Almost all SMGs have just as easy to control recoil.
I can spray people across the map with the MP5, P90, MP5k, Kapkans and Tachankas SMG, Lesions SMG, Alibis SMG, and pretty much every SMG except for Elas.
Idk why after all this time you still refuse to admit you are wrong and keep lying about how her SMG is one of the best weapons.

But you'e not taking into account gadget power. A very strong gadget usually gets leveled out with a less powerful arsenal. Sure, it's not as insane as the MP5 (although the ACOG is the only thing that keeps it as powerful as it is), but it's rather decent considering how strong her gadget is. If you disregard gadget strength when balancing an operator, you'll end up making operators too powerful. Remember when Ela's nerf consisted of reducing the usefulness of her gadget-based arsenal (no impacts, less concussions, and increased arm time)? That was to balance her gadget-based arsenal along with her gun-based.

[dont_ask_me_again]

Originally posted by ExuberantRaptor:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

Higher recoil = less flick distance while shooting... and thus lower recoil > higher damage often than not since you can get headshots.

Almost all SMGs have just as easy to control recoil.
I can spray people across the map with the MP5, P90, MP5k, Kapkans and Tachankas SMG, Lesions SMG, Alibis SMG, and pretty much every SMG except for Elas.
Idk why after all this time you still refuse to admit you are wrong and keep lying about how her SMG is one of the best weapons.

Higher recoil adds more RnG... anyone can control recoil but they won’t know where the pixel will land exactly which can cuck them... hence low recoil is a valid stat even in high ranks... it’s why zofia’s guns are 1 shelf off from top tier.

Trust me - If I’m a rook and I know my opponents gun has bad recoil I’m 100% pre-firing them knowing my easier recoil control is gonna give me the best odds of winning.

[dont_ask_me_again]

Originally posted by ExuberantRaptor:

Originally posted by dont_ask_me_again:

Higher recoil adds more RnG... anyone can control recoil but they won’t know where the pixel will land exactly which can cuck them... hence low recoil is a valid stat even in high ranks... it’s why zofia’s guns are 1 shelf off from top tier.

Trust me - If I’m a rook and I know my opponents gun has bad recoil I’m 100% pre-firing them knowing my easier recoil control is gonna give me the best odds of winning.

okay Mr. Troll. Go get attention somewhere else.

Well, I’ve been making a tier-list for weapons recently... still need to make some more double confirmations in some places but yeah the only better smg’s than valk’s gun are:

(1st tier) PDW-9, clash’s SPSMG9 (as a mention - but because of the slow moving op it’s attached to it’s seen with lower value probably), Luison is up here too and Mounted LMG - RP - 46. (But yeah the conditions is where it can crumble as a weapon).

(2nd tier) = 416c Carbine (just a mention as it’s a defender weapon)

(3rd tier) Alda, Commando 9, P10 Roni, T-5 SMG, K1A, and Vector .45

(4th tier) MP5, (TSG-12 is up here too), Mx4 Storm, and MP7.

(5th tier) MPX, MP5SD and Scorpion Evo.

(6th tier) VSN9x19mm, 9mm C1

(7th tier) UMP, FMG-9, MP5k (although is slightly worse than FMG-9, FMG-9 has lower recoil).

(8th tier) M12 (basically a pistol you don’t have to click for with terrible damage but okay could spawn peek with it but why would you when you can pick an op with a better gun for it).

That’s kinda around where it’s all at atm for me... Valk’s is defo middle of the pack though but in a strong tier considering she’s a defender. Defo think Mozzie/Lesion’s guns are too strong for their tier for how good their gadgets are though.

I rated many attacker primaries worse than her gun.