Is vsync bad to have on for this game?

[Hoppled]

I play on a 60hz monitor and averaged 80-110 fps. I started to notice I was getting a micro stutter every now and then, the game looked a bit fuzzy as a moved around as well.

I enabled vsync 1 frame and it runs much better. No stutters and the game also looks and runs fluidly. Fix?

How could v sync fix the fps hiccups, I thought it was just screen tearing. Now, I need to ask - is vsync ok to have on for competitive viability? I hear people complain that "vsync causes too much input lag"

Please let me know, thank you.

[sleepslikeacat]

Its worst on some cards than others
does it slow down your game: yes

in asia we have a word for this: chaseing shadows
no need to actually see, just the "shadow" is enough

[sigina ✝]

is ok

[Hoppled]

What?

[Kuruseida]

Originally posted by sleepslikeacat:

in asia we have a word for this: chaseing shadows
no need to actually see, just the "shadow" is enough

W H A T ¿?

[Kuruseida]

Topic related: I am in the SAME case of you, I got a bit of issues regarding FPS and Vsync. I play on 100fps but sometimes it feels weird... and I do also have those inquieres.

[APN34Z]

I always play with vsync on cuz im on a 60HZ TV, yes it will hav tiny micro stutter without it, get a gsync monitor if u wana play smooth uncapped FPS

[sleepslikeacat]

Originally posted by Shingatsu:

Originally posted by sleepslikeacat:

in asia we have a word for this: chaseing shadows
no need to actually see, just the "shadow" is enough

W H A T ¿? :conwayshrug:

no need to see clearly, just an idea where everything is, is enough
seeing is too slow, just act before fully seeing

In america you have words like "snap aim" and "flick shot"
in china we use words like "Chaseing shadows" (it sounds better in chinese)

[Hoppled]

I don't mind the fps at 60 with vsync, it runs much smoother- BUT the question I now have , is, is it that big of a deal to cause input lag? Or are people just being elitist jerks about it.

Like you'd think the game would warn you if something game changing would happen when changing an option like when you change FOV it says "this can affect performance" vsync is so oppressed against by these elitist people and I've yet to get an answer if it actually has significant input lag.

I love how Vsync fixed everything for me in this game, but I now need to know if it's competitively viable. I will probably have to go through 100 trolls on this forum (r6 community, "lul get off ur potato") before I get a constructive answer that is serious.

[APN34Z]

SERIOUS competitive gamers dotn play with vsync on for that reason

[Hoppled]

Originally posted by Physickl:

SERIOUS competitive gamers dotn play with vsync on for that reason

Ok cool. So I'm screwed? How bad is the input lag? I mean I need someone to tell me because I don't notice it.


Also, would like to hear WHY it causes input lag, when I already have a 60hz monitor and do not benefit with frames over 60...

[APN34Z]

Originally posted by Beaker:

Originally posted by Physickl:

SERIOUS competitive gamers dotn play with vsync on for that reason

Ok cool. So I'm screwed? How bad is the input lag? I mean I need someone to tell me because I don't notice it.


Also, would like to hear WHY it causes input lag, when I already have a 60hz monitor and do not benefit with frames over 60...

I wouldnt even worry about it, u can always turn vsync off an try cap FPS, some games get tearing tho an i cant stand it.
As for why idk lol, im not that tec savy sry ^^

[sleepslikeacat]

Originally posted by Beaker:

Originally posted by Physickl:

SERIOUS competitive gamers dotn play with vsync on for that reason

Ok cool. So I'm screwed? How bad is the input lag? I mean I need someone to tell me because I don't notice it.


Also, would like to hear WHY it causes input lag, when I already have a 60hz monitor and do not benefit with frames over 60...

What is vsync
It forces your monitor to only change the image if it can change the whole frame. If your graphics card has not processed the whole frame yet, the monitor will wait until the next refresh rate to draw it. If your graphics card is has finshed processing the frame, it will do nothing till the next frame.

think about it as a buffer, like when you watch a video on youtube

basicly sometimes you will see the game 1 frame behind of what is actually happening

Originally posted by Schrödinger's Cathulhu:

A well implemented V-sync will guarantee you 16.6ms frametime at locked 60fps.

If its working properly the consistence of the frametimes are well worth the cost(of lower, unstable frametimes).

what he said, some vsyncs are better than others depending on the game
however, vsycn is always lower than no vsync

[Schrödinger's Cathulhu]

You need to see your frametimes to see if V-sync is good for you or not.

A well implemented V-sync will guarantee you 16.6ms frametime at locked 60fps.

If its working properly the consistence of the frametimes are well worth the cost(of lower, unstable frametimes).

Sometimes, for a lot of diference reasons(mainly bad implementation whit especific GPUs or CPUs) it doesnt estabilize the frametime properly, in this cenario its better to turn it off.


Edit-
Worth noting that frametime is the time that each frame takes to be drawn, a higher framtime means that the image will take longer to appear on screen, delaying responses.

Also a unstable frametime will make some framer appear for longer periods of time on the screen, this cause stutter and a "laggy" feel, also lowering response time and sometimes causing screen tearing, very distracting artefacts.

[dookie]

vsync is fine in this game, doesnt have massive input lag like most games. i keep it on to help with some of the microstuttering since the last updates

[Hoppled]

Originally posted by MrSirrr:

vsync is fine in this game, doesnt have massive input lag like most games. i keep it on to help with some of the microstuttering since the last updates

Yes, thank you. And to also the person above- I feel like v sync for my computer is meant to be on. Reason being, not only did the fps fluctuation stutters go away, but it looks wayyy better and is smooth as butter.