Why is spawn peeking considered a "strategy"

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It's the most anti-climatic thing imaginable in a game where the idea is to tactically work your way inside of an establishment and defuse a bomb, capture an objective, or rescure a hostage. The only advantage that the attacking side has is peekers advantage, but by the time you adjust your aim onto them, you just get shot.

I've never seen in a competitive setting or even casual setting where the attacking team gets the kill from reacting first. It's always the defender ♥♥♥♥ing up his shot and giving the attacker too much time to adjust properly.

Spawn peeking isn't a strategy, it's not skillful. It's a risky but highly rewarding ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do that ruins the game for the other team, and should honestly be completely removed.

Simple fix, remove the ability to move, shoot, or even look outside similar to a rounds setup time for 15 seconds. The game would be so much more enjoyable if the first 10 seconds aren't filled with high awareness for players that have no respect for sportmanship.

If you spawn peek, ♥♥♥♥ you. You are the reason Siege is held back from its true potential of becoming of competent FPS Esport. The netcode might be ♥♥♥♥ing garbage, but nothing turns off people more than cheesy playstyles.

EDIT: The reason spawn killing is a huge problem isn't just because of how annoying it is, it's because of how little it works out for attackers. Some defenders have broken hitboxes such as Valk. The amount of times where I've shot first, HIT her head as it's the only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing I can see, and the game not counting it only to lose the fight to a holo sight is ridiculous. It'll count as a shoulder or arm shot, but never a headshot. This seems to happen whenever the defender is on a 3rd floor. So you know what? You cheesy garbage players that can't get kills without abusing every nook and cranny of the game's design, keep spawn killing if Ubi really isn't willing to change it. But add compensation for the attacking side that GUARANTEES headshots if you are shooting at someone far away in the beginning of a round. If I shoot you in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ head and played around your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tactic, I deserve the kill. I shouldn't have to play around terrible hitboxes.

[Trickst3r83]

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Step 2 - Don't rush into the objective like some headless chickens

step 3: realize your in combat and in cover the moment you spawn. (same as step 1 and 2)

Step 4 : Use your mouse to aim, click right mouse button for ADS and then left mouse button to shoot the bastards

Ez game Ez life

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Publicado originalmente por Trasherino:

Whoever necro'd this forum is going to get stalked by me and shot.

I cant unsubscribe from this forum because its glitched please have a god delete this

Well, I think there are many threads like this. Just prefire the windows.

[Elllll]

'Why is spawn killing considered a strategy'.

It isn't. It certainly wasn't used in one of the final rounds of the recent Invitational Grand Final.
It certainly isn't used to punish a team when they becomes complacent because 'I'm in high rank so it won't happen'
It definitely has never seen use by pro player.
This certainly isn't sarcasm

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Publicado originalmente por Telf:

'Why is spawn killing considered a strategy'.

It isn't. It certainly wasn't used in one of the final rounds of the recent Invitational Grand Final.
It certainly isn't used to punish a team when they becomes complacent because 'I'm in high rank so it won't happen'
It definitely has never seen use by pro player.
This certainly isn't sarcasm

10/10 withering sarcasm.

[WangXongXie]

"Simple fix, remove the ability to move, shoot, or even look outside similar to a rounds setup time for 15 seconds. The game would be so much more enjoyable if the first 10 seconds aren't filled with high awareness for players that have no respect for sportmanship."
A. If they're rushing for example coastline kitchen window, without a way to do a runout you're in deep ♥♥♥♥.
B. Sportsmanship? What? Sportsmanship is just a term people use to whine with. This. Is. A. Competitive. Game. Nobody's going to not use a strat because the other team won't enjoy it.
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It's not hacks, just as you've said it's very risky so why removing it.

[Xoho]

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You know... there is a reason why all the windows are boarded up by default.... it's so attackers can easily see if a window is broken and can react as the situation demands it... you can also check with your drone if there are any enemies at the windows which are near the place you spawn... and if there are any enemies there, you know that it's not a good idea to spawn there, or if you do spawn there, you should watch out for people peeking from that window.

There is no "spawn peeking" or "spawn killing" in this game. Defenders have no line of sight on the spawn without abusing bugs or running outside. There are only people who can't counter one of the simplest "strategies" in the game.

So I'm supposed to check each and every single window on my side of the spawn in order to avoid being cheesed? That has got to be some of the most TERRIBLE logic to countering a "strategy". It SHOULD NOT EXIST. Siege is held back because of it competitively.

There's usually at least 1 spawn that will have a small number of possible spawnpeeking angles, that are usually possible to peek 1x1. It takes up maybe 15 seconds maximum to clear most spawpeeking angles from most spawns. Spawnpeeking usually is just a free kill for the attackers, since typically you know exactly where their head is going to be in doing so. If you can't aim that well, then drone it out first to give yourself a bit more mental preparation for taking that fight.

[Davyxdavez]

Um, your job is to infiltrate a heavily fortified building. The terrorist hobby is t- i mean defenders job is to keep you and your gear out, (like drones and grenades) not baby sit a hostage or bomb in an enclosed room waiting for you to get in the building and negotiate with you through the room door, so thats why defenders have traps and can open up a window to shoot you. Keep you out of the building at any cost.

Siege is a brutal and unforgiving game. And the best way I learned so you wont get spawn peeked is to spawn peek when its your turn to defend. Understand the angles and locations by spawn peeking and now i am able to kill the peekers EZ

Oh btw ever watch home alone? That’s literally rainbow six siege right there and spoiler alert, the kid spawn peeks too

[Davyxdavez]

Lmao

[Troy]

why does this necro happen to me

[aVeryLonePepe]

*Sigh*

Learn to counter it, this is just a noob complaining.

[CallMeCole]

I get killed by this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. But I don't complain. I know it's cause I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suck.

[Davyxdavez]

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I get killed by this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. But I don't complain. I know it's cause I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suck.

Finally a man i can respect. I tip my internet fedora to you

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I get killed by this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. But I don't complain. I know it's cause I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suck.

Finally a man i can respect. I tip my internet fedora to you :wololo:

Same.

[Semaj]

GG

Publicado originalmente por Surreal Stupidity:

I get killed by this ♥♥♥♥ all the time. But I don't complain. I know it's cause I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ suck.

[Nepgear]

1. Aim better.
2. Watch your windows, you can see which are broken, keep your gun ready.
3. Use your drone.
4. Attackers have supperior firearms and more acogs.
5. Worst case scenario use smokes to cover your approach.
6. Use IQ to kill valkyrie's cams.
7. Use glaz if you can't see well.
8. Spawn peekers are a free kill most of the time.