Why is spawn peeking considered a "strategy"

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It's the most anti-climatic thing imaginable in a game where the idea is to tactically work your way inside of an establishment and defuse a bomb, capture an objective, or rescure a hostage. The only advantage that the attacking side has is peekers advantage, but by the time you adjust your aim onto them, you just get shot.

I've never seen in a competitive setting or even casual setting where the attacking team gets the kill from reacting first. It's always the defender ♥♥♥♥ing up his shot and giving the attacker too much time to adjust properly.

Spawn peeking isn't a strategy, it's not skillful. It's a risky but highly rewarding ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to do that ruins the game for the other team, and should honestly be completely removed.

Simple fix, remove the ability to move, shoot, or even look outside similar to a rounds setup time for 15 seconds. The game would be so much more enjoyable if the first 10 seconds aren't filled with high awareness for players that have no respect for sportmanship.

If you spawn peek, ♥♥♥♥ you. You are the reason Siege is held back from its true potential of becoming of competent FPS Esport. The netcode might be ♥♥♥♥ing garbage, but nothing turns off people more than cheesy playstyles.

EDIT: The reason spawn killing is a huge problem isn't just because of how annoying it is, it's because of how little it works out for attackers. Some defenders have broken hitboxes such as Valk. The amount of times where I've shot first, HIT her head as it's the only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing I can see, and the game not counting it only to lose the fight to a holo sight is ridiculous. It'll count as a shoulder or arm shot, but never a headshot. This seems to happen whenever the defender is on a 3rd floor. So you know what? You cheesy garbage players that can't get kills without abusing every nook and cranny of the game's design, keep spawn killing if Ubi really isn't willing to change it. But add compensation for the attacking side that GUARANTEES headshots if you are shooting at someone far away in the beginning of a round. If I shoot you in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ head and played around your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tactic, I deserve the kill. I shouldn't have to play around terrible hitboxes.

[Ras-pica]

It used to be pretty bad, but almost all bad attacker spawns have been greatly improved by now. Of course, some spawns are inherently better than others, and so the random spawns in casual can be very annoying, but in ranked, spawn kills/deaths aren't that common. On the other hand, if they ARE common, there is some stupidity involved.

[Leo711]

dont run at beggining or go different place then the usual spawn running , problem solved .

[Konran]

I agree.

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Originally posted by TheCoon:

dont run at beggining or go different place then the usual spawn running , problem solved .

Some spawns like the ones on house or consulate can happen from literally 3 feet of where you spawn.

If you can get spawn camped in a game with a 1 life per round system, something is severely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrong with your game.

[Cobrazi]

Use drone to find spawn peakers asdadssdasda

[Isaac Cox]

if you're aware of it, i don't think it's a problem

[charmedet]

I do agree 100%. I have learned to go slow and look around.

[Setech]

So what you want essentially, is a safe space to breach the building. If your sorry butt can't muster the patience to check if any of the windows are broken assaulting, sorry son.. siege just isn't for you.

However, I'm here to help.. so let us begin adressing your points.

It's in fact very easy to kill a spawn peeker. You can do any of the following:

1.) Drone the building from safety. Yes, the outside, so you get a view if any of the windows are broken.. if so:

2.) Get a gun with ACOG, ADS that window.. drop a few rounds into the small aperture they made to peek you from. This has the following effect:

- He's there, and he's now dead.
- He isn't dead, but he knows there are guns aimed at his little hole.. so he will most likely relocate.
-He is mentally challenged, and puts his head in the hole.. dead for sure.

3.) Pick GLAZ, that thermal will light up the peekers faces like a christmas tree. Enjoy.

---Extra bonus: If you follow these steps, you'll not only get the peekers.. you'll catch a few scrubby valkyries throwing cameras outside while you're at it.---


Spawn peeking holding Siege back from being an E-sports success? Have you seen some of the ♥♥♥♥ these teams pull in the invitationals? They will cover all sorts of nasty and dirty angles, they will mold the map to their plan. What they don't do, is spawn peek. If you ever get to high level ranked play, remember this complaint of yours.. spawn peeking ain't got ♥♥♥♥ on a 4 wall murder hole halfway from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Jupiter.

Lastly: Haters gonna hate. Not only will I spawn peek you, I will actively come outside to get your stupid ass. If I can drop you within seconds, I'll get you pissed off.. and now you're off your game. With luck, your dumb ass will flame the chat, and demoralize your whole team. After that, I don't even have to spawn peek you to kill you. I've seen entire teams collapse/rage quit because of one angry ♥♥♥♥. If I can make you, or one of your buddies into that angry ♥♥♥♥.. I'd say it's a good kill.

[asd]

You know... there is a reason why all the windows are boarded up by default.... it's so attackers can easily see if a window is broken and can react as the situation demands it... you can also check with your drone if there are any enemies at the windows which are near the place you spawn... and if there are any enemies there, you know that it's not a good idea to spawn there, or if you do spawn there, you should watch out for people peeking from that window.

There is no "spawn peeking" or "spawn killing" in this game. Defenders have no line of sight on the spawn without abusing bugs or running outside. There are only people who can't counter one of the simplest "strategies" in the game.

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Originally posted by Setech:

So what you want essentially, is a safe space to breach the building. If your sorry butt can't muster the patience to check if any of the windows are broken assaulting, sorry son.. siege just isn't for you.

However, I'm here to help.. so let us begin adressing your points.

It's in fact very easy to kill a spawn peeker. You can do any of the following:

1.) Drone the building from safety. Yes, the outside, so you get a view if any of the windows are broken.. if so:

2.) Get a gun with ACOG, ADS that window.. drop a few rounds into the small aperture they made to peek you from. This has the following effect:

- He's there, and he's now dead.
- He isn't dead, but he knows there are guns aimed at his little hole.. so he will most likely relocate.
-He is mentally challenged, and puts his head in the hole.. dead for sure.

3.) Pick GLAZ, that thermal will light up the peekers faces like a christmas tree. Enjoy.

---Extra bonus: If you follow these steps, you'll not only get the peekers.. you'll catch a few scrubby valkyries throwing cameras outside while you're at it.---


Spawn peeking holding Siege back from being an E-sports success? Have you seen some of the ♥♥♥♥ these teams pull in the invitationals? They will cover all sorts of nasty and dirty angles, they will mold the map to their plan. What they don't do, is spawn peek. If you ever get to high level ranked play, remember this complaint of yours.. spawn peeking ain't got ♥♥♥♥ on a 4 wall murder hole halfway from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Jupiter.

Lastly: Haters gonna hate. Not only will I spawn peek you, I will actively come outside to get your stupid ass. If I can drop you within seconds, I'll get you pissed off.. and now you're off your game. With luck, your dumb ass will flame the chat, and demoralize your whole team. After that, I don't even have to spawn peek you to kill you. I've seen entire teams collapse/rage quit because of one angry ♥♥♥♥. If I can make you, or one of your buddies into that angry ♥♥♥♥.. I'd say it's a good kill.

No. It seems you're too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dense to read what I said and just assume the meaning of the post based on the title. I want to be able to move around the spawn for the first 10 seconds without getting shot. After that, it should be fair game for what happens.

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Originally posted by Tabus:

You know... there is a reason why all the windows are boarded up by default.... it's so attackers can easily see if a window is broken and can react as the situation demands it... you can also check with your drone if there are any enemies at the windows which are near the place you spawn... and if there are any enemies there, you know that it's not a good idea to spawn there, or if you do spawn there, you should watch out for people peeking from that window.

There is no "spawn peeking" or "spawn killing" in this game. Defenders have no line of sight on the spawn without abusing bugs or running outside. There are only people who can't counter one of the simplest "strategies" in the game.

So I'm supposed to check each and every single window on my side of the spawn in order to avoid being cheesed? That has got to be some of the most TERRIBLE logic to countering a "strategy". It SHOULD NOT EXIST. Siege is held back because of it competitively.

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Going to edit my OP, please read it.

[MsCounterMax]

If you get spawnpeeked, it's your own damn fault

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Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

If you get spawnpeeked, it's your own damn fault

It's my fault for not being able to manage look at 4+ windows at once and losing due to bad netcode? Is autism common in your family?

[MsCounterMax]

Originally posted by daddy:

Originally posted by MrCounterMax:

If you get spawnpeeked, it's your own damn fault

It's my fault for not being able to manage look at 4+ windows at once and losing due to bad netcode? Is autism common in your family?

I bet your rank is below silver if you keep complainig about spawnpeeking. Why won't you make another entry here where you complain about every single thing you get killed by.