Aleck_Maddy - Cheat Engine Overlord

[RedneckMasterpiece]

Just got done trying to end this but could not. His Overlord had no weakness, fears, and even the "Damaged By" tab was empty. He was immune to everything as well. Vault-Breaker and all that.

[Pandora]

Be careful with name shaming, specially if its the first "cheater" you meet, and if he only has 1 edited, he probably just recruited him online.

[RedneckMasterpiece]

The problem is that this isn't the first time. It is the first time it wasn't a Chinese player though. And I don't care how he acquired the damn thing, it's broken to have it. The only reason his name is up there is because I can't type Chinese characters.

[gamester512]

Not to mention, some people probably like the challenge they get from Uruks like that one.

I get it, believe me, it's frustrating to deal with if you don't want that kind of a challenge. But the important thing to keep in mind is that if you ran into this guy in a random Online Conquest/Vendetta, then you likely won't have to worry about dealing with this particular player's orcs again. And besides, he was the Overlord, so unless you summoned your bodyguard against him (and even then, Uruks/Ologs can always be replaced if they die, it's part of the game, and they may even cheat death and come back to you stronger/cooler-looking than before), even if you lost, you wouldn't really lose anything all that important.

And there are ALWAYS workarounds for things like this. Not even "cheated" Uruks/Ologs are truly invincible. Though personally, I would never "Cheat" an orc into something like this, the most I would ever want to do is mess with their appearance to make them look cooler, and that's it.

[Pandora]

But if he is tribeless you cant beat him? You cant fight him or you go through the floor and die before trying.
Still wondering how it is for the cheater, maybe they crash when the Overlord goes out...

[RedneckMasterpiece]

No the problem is this is all I run into now. Especially on Seregost for some reason. I'm just trying to play the game it was intended and I can't because I either lose these mission in the trying or just leave them and lose anyway. And it'd be fine if I didn't lose the Orcs I actually worked to obtain, the ones I just think are funny or kind of cool. But I've lost them to these overpowered broken pieces of ♥♥♥♥. I'm tired of it. If you want to fight the damn things, then put them in your own game and fight them.

[TGC> The Games Collector]

Maybe also notify WB Support, they're the only ones that can clean it up.

It is kind of annoying to run into captains that are OP through cheats. Kind of makes the whole fight pit and uruk training useless for everyone else.

[76561199237184997]

Hey, man! I'm the one you're writing about. I don't know if you're accusing me of cheating or not, but I'm just an ordinary player. If you have been playing recently, then your indignation is understandable. My rank in the network conquests is "Viceroy" and I, like a others with a high rating level, come across fortresses with "golden" orcs who have no vulnerabilities, etc. I didn't create cheater orcs, but conquered them online. Advice for you - how to conquer such fortresses, make a build based on anger, and use a glaive. Guides on how to build this - check in the Internet. :-) I hope next time you can conquer my fortress!

[76561199237184997]

Originally posted by Pαndốſa:

But if he is tribeless you cant beat him? You cant fight him or you go through the floor and die before trying.
Still wondering how it is for the cheater, maybe they crash when the Overlord goes out...

I hate it when they do that.... You can do nothing with that :(

[Yes, I have a Mic.]

Originally posted by gamester512:

Not to mention, some people probably like the challenge they get from Uruks like that one.

Who? Name one person.

[Fallen_one]

Originally posted by david.wehr:

Originally posted by Yes, I have a Mic.:

Who? Name one person.

i like it. have plenty of them in garrison

[doug]

Originally posted by Aleck_Maddy:

Hey, man! I'm the one you're writing about. I don't know if you're accusing me of cheating or not, but I'm just an ordinary player. If you have been playing recently, then your indignation is understandable. My rank in the network conquests is "Viceroy" and I, like a others with a high rating level, come across fortresses with "golden" orcs who have no vulnerabilities, etc. I didn't create cheater orcs, but conquered them online. Advice for you - how to conquer such fortresses, make a build based on anger, and use a glaive. Guides on how to build this - check in the Internet. :-) I hope next time you can conquer my fortress!

If you claim to encounter modded invulnerable fortressess/uruks so frequently, and claim to understand the frustration, and if you also know that people have to do extra research on guides specific to defeating cheaters... why would you not be able to recognise that you are part of the problem? Why would you not realise that recruiting a modded captain is equally as frustrating?

If you do realise that it is equivalent to cheating and equally frustrating, do you do it because you want to make people mad?

[cswiger]

If you complete the last act, you start getting much tougher orcs which can have all resistances, although they will still have some vulnerabilities unlike hacked orcs.

I can understand wanting to place one as warchief for online pit fighting-- which the game encourages-- but it does make the higher level fort missions unbalanced for other players. A better compromise would be using such uber-orcs as your bodyguard, rather than as warchief or manning the fort defenses.

[Yes, I have a Mic.]

Originally posted by david.wehr:

Originally posted by david.wehr:

i like it. have plenty of them in garrison

Thats not you "enjoying the challenge", thats you enjoying inflicting hacked uruks on other players. Big distinction.

[Hotel Security]

^Seriously? You ask a question and then someone responds but it's not in the way that supports your awful point so you then you accuse them of liking it for the right reasons.

Sorry Mic-y, you don't get to make up reasons for why people like things so you can still claim to be right. That's not even an argument.

[gamester512]

Originally posted by Yes, I have a Mic.:

Originally posted by david.wehr:

Thats not you "enjoying the challenge", thats you enjoying inflicting hacked uruks on other players. Big distinction.

You are misinterpreting what he said. He explicitly stated that they are "in his Garrison". Meaning that they are NOT a part of his game world and CANNOT be encountered by other players in Vendettas or Conquests. They are in his "storage" of currently unused Uruks/Ologs (like ones that you recruited from other people's games via Online Vendettas & Conquests, those Uruks & Ologs are always sent to your Garrison, they are not added to your game world unless you manually add them yourself). Uruks and Ologs in your Garrison are basically the equivalent of "trophies" until such a time as the player in question actively chooses to add a given Uruk/Olog to their game world.

He never said that he was using those Uruks/Ologs as one of his Overlords/Warchiefs/Captains.

Word of advice, make sure you know what you're talking about before you make a comment like that. You could inadvertently piss off people who weren't even doing anything wrong. Just try to be careful, okay? We don't need to create any more potential problems than there may already be.



I understand why you don't like it, believe me, but unfortunately, there's really not much that can even be done about it. I really think the Online Conquests should have allowed people to "reject" a possible opponent for this exact reason, running into a Conquest that's loaded with cheated Uruks & Ologs. But there is a solution, albeit one that's not entirely ideal: enter the conquest and then immediately leave the mission. It will be counted as a "loss", but your valuable Uruks & Ologs should still be alive and well when you get back to your world (and if you want to be extra paranoid, enter the Conquest in question with an empty Assault Team to keep your own guys as safe as possible).