Styx: Shards of Darkness

Styx: Shards of Darkness

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Dragon Feb 29, 2020 @ 11:52am
Styx vs. the Goblin Slayer?
There is an anime called "The Goblin Slayer" about an adventurer who spends almost all of his time slaying Goblins. And he invents many brilliant strategies for each battle.

I think he could kill Styx easily without Styx even putting up any threat to him at all.

What do you think?

Also, that show proves that goblins are extremely nasty & evil and deserve to be completely genocided based on how evil they are.

Is Styx as evil like them or do you think Styx is the one and only decent goblin?
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Bassilth Feb 29, 2020 @ 2:39pm 
Evil is all based on perspective.
Humans are evil and nasty for all the things they do to the world around them.

The only reason goblins are called evil and nasty is because they dont bow to the greatness of humanity. They just exist. For their own sake. And humans dont like that, so they try to exterminate them.
Dragon Feb 29, 2020 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Bassilth:
Evil is all based on perspective.
Humans are evil and nasty for all the things they do to the world around them.

The only reason goblins are called evil and nasty is because they dont bow to the greatness of humanity. They just exist. For their own sake. And humans dont like that, so they try to exterminate them.

Well no, evil is not "based on perspective." Some things are just inherently evil, and goblins love to do them.

They do things so heinous that I am probably not even allowed to describe them on the Steam forums.

Based on what your post says, it seems like you've never watched the Goblin Slayer show.

I don't see how anyone would be able to watch that show and then justify the continued existence of goblins, given the heinous & unspeakable crimes against humanity which they love to commit.
Last edited by Dragon; Feb 29, 2020 @ 3:13pm
Vulpes_Inculta Mar 1, 2020 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by Dragon:
I don't see how anyone would be able to watch that show and then justify the continued existence of goblins, given the heinous & unspeakable crimes against humanity which they love to commit.
Just like humans commit unspeakable crimes against other species. But at the end of the day, whoever writes history decides who is good and who is evil.
D'zen Mar 1, 2020 @ 2:01am 
Originally posted by Dragon:
Originally posted by Bassilth:
Evil is all based on perspective.
Humans are evil and nasty for all the things they do to the world around them.

The only reason goblins are called evil and nasty is because they dont bow to the greatness of humanity. They just exist. For their own sake. And humans dont like that, so they try to exterminate them.

Well no, evil is not "based on perspective." Some things are just inherently evil, and goblins love to do them.

They do things so heinous that I am probably not even allowed to describe them on the Steam forums.

Based on what your post says, it seems like you've never watched the Goblin Slayer show.

I don't see how anyone would be able to watch that show and then justify the continued existence of goblins, given the heinous & unspeakable crimes against humanity which they love to commit.

Even if someone didn't watched it, nobody have a right to say that "all goblins are evil" if it's mean goblins from different universes. Maybe all goblins in "The Goblin Slayer" are evil, but not in other works of art. It's like saying "that group of humans is bad" is equal to "all humans are bad".

Tbf, humanity is the worst thing that happened with our world in the last time. We are destroying nature, using everything on our own favor, killing each other and other species etc. So yes, sometimes "evil" is based on perspective. For example, even now in some countries divorcing without man's will is evil (even if woman was 12 years and was forced by her surroundings to marriage), but to us it sounds like something bad, filthy and wild at all and violating rights and freedom of that woman.
Bassilth Mar 1, 2020 @ 2:37am 
Yeah, I was about to say that the two worlds are not the same. You cannot follow one franchise and apply its rules to another. Maybe the goblins in that franchise are doing evil things (much like how probably the humans there are doing evil things to them because... evil.)

The goblins in this franchise simply try to exist. They get by how they can and try to find their place in the world. But obviously it doesnt sit well with the humans because they are not following rules and laws. So they dub them as evil nasty creatures, as pests, and try to get rid of them. Yes, the goblins do kill humans and steal from them but that is what anyone would do who is trying to survive in a harsh world.
Dragon Mar 1, 2020 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Bassilth:
much like how probably the humans there are doing evil things to them because... evil.

No, the humans aren't doing evil things to them. The humans are genociding the goblins because they have to because they are evil beasts who do extremely heinous things if they are not eliminated.

And I don't think Styx would stand any sort of chance vs. the Goblin Slayer. There should be a crossover where Styx has to fight the Goblin Slayer, but Styx would lose badly as the Goblin Slayer is much stronger and has a much better variety of brilliant strategies and tactics than Styx does.

If they make a third Styx game, then the final scene should be Styx fighting vs. the Goblin Slayer, and then Styx dies at at the end because he has no way to compete.
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Bassilth Mar 1, 2020 @ 11:58am 
Goblins are probably as evil as lions or wolves are for us in our world. Not everything will bow to human laws and rules. Some things will outright try to eat them. The goblins there are probably smarter, so can do a lot more than eat.

Aaaand I have my doubts. Styx isnt just about strategy and tactics. He also has stealth on his side, as well as the ability to climb over surfaces. Not to mention he got amber (and quartz) with all its power. Dont think a goblin slayer could do anything with that. Styx is basically immortal. He wont be able to kill him because there is no such thing as killing Styx.
Vulpes_Inculta Mar 2, 2020 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by Dragon:
And I don't think Styx would stand any sort of chance vs. the Goblin Slayer. There should be a crossover where Styx has to fight the Goblin Slayer, but Styx would lose badly as the Goblin Slayer is much stronger and has a much better variety of brilliant strategies and tactics than Styx does.

If they make a third Styx game, then the final scene should be Styx fighting vs. the Goblin Slayer, and then Styx dies at at the end because he has no way to compete.
Okay, at this point I'm convinced that the thread was made simply to troll.

But anyways, pitting two fictional characters against each other is completely pointless, because the winner depends solely on the writers. So, if the authors of the anime write the story, then the slayer wins. If the authors of Styx write the story, then Styx wins.

And if I wrote the story, then Styx would win because anime is f@cking stupid.
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Dragon Mar 6, 2020 @ 11:33am 
I made this thread because I watched Goblin Slayer, and I was also aware of the Styx character, and the experience of having watched Goblin Slayer caused me to realize that Styx is not nearly so BA as these games might make him seem to people who have never seen the Goblin Slayer in action.

I'm sure the devs could be fair & balanced and objective-minded enough to have Styx die to the Goblin Slayer in the next Styx game.

Just because they didn't make the Goblin Slayer character themselves, that doesn't negate their ability to be fair and honest (which I'm sure they would be) about how the Goblin Slayer is much stronger and wiser and has legions of more tactics & strategies than Styx, all of which make him greatly surpass Styx's abilities to the point where Styx would have zero chance to compete with him.
Bassilth Mar 6, 2020 @ 1:42pm 
Maybe. But there is one tiny thing...

Styx is able to regenerate by using his clones. So maybe he would 'die' a couple of times but after each time he would come back more experienced, knowing more and more about the goblin slayer's strategy. And eventually... he would find a tactic that works.

Keep in mind that... while the goblin slayer will have to attempt to kill Styx endlessly... and would always find he returns... BUT Styx has to kill the goblin slayer only ONCE to get rid of him entirely.
Vandal Savant Mar 11, 2020 @ 7:56am 
Goblins in Goblin Slayer are portrayed as morally evil vermin. Styx is more cunning than that, and doesn't really fit the other media's definition of goblins. He's more of a mutant, twisted and empowered by amber.

Goblin Slayer as a character is pretty Batman, in that he's a really good strategist and excels in premeditated action. If he knew all of Styx's tricks, he'd have an excellent chance of killing him and all his clones. But if he went up against Styx with the initial impression of Styx being something he's fought before, he'd get killed pretty swiftly.
Dragon Mar 12, 2020 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by Bassilth:
BUT Styx has to kill the goblin slayer only ONCE to get rid of him entirely.

Well that depends on how hard Styx "killed him." Because the Goblin Slayer has already been "killed" before, but his allies made sure that he got saved by a Resurrection spell. And after he was Resurrected, then he was as good as new.
Last edited by Dragon; Mar 12, 2020 @ 3:10am
Bassilth Mar 12, 2020 @ 4:07am 
We are talking Goblin Slayer vs Styx, not Goblin Slayer&Co vs Styx.
Keep that in mind. No resurrection on his side.
D'zen Mar 14, 2020 @ 5:06am 
Styx was already killed too. If we are talking about it in that manner, then every goblin is Styx, too (his clone, tbf), so Goblin slayer need to stand against all of them. Also, in SSoD Styx can create a perfect clone, ho can create his on clone, so good luck to your Goblin Slayer against two Styxes in team.

That was just an example what can I do if I or you will imagine different things. The main point of it is you can't do a crossover like that with rules of only one universe -- you need to compare them as equal works of art.
Dragon Mar 14, 2020 @ 9:41pm 
They should kickstart a new game called "Styx vs. the Goblin Slayer" in which you spend 50% of your time as Styx and accomplishing Styx's goals (i.e. killing all the adventurers in the Goblin Slayer's town), and then you switch to the Goblin Slayer for the other 50% of the game and you hunt down Styx and his allied goblins.

Then at the end of the game, they could have two alternate final encounters and endings, where the player chooses who to play as for the finale, and the final battle is a 1vs1 battle to the death between Styx vs. the Goblin Slayer.

I realize the devs don't have the rights to the Goblin Slayer IP, but that can easily be licensed if they grease the IP's holders palms with some money (which they would recoup from the kickstarter funds).
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