Steam Controller Bluetooth compatible?

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I am unclear as to whether this controller will support bluetooth protocol. If it does which version i have read conflicting articles and the hardware specification does not state specifically which wireless protocol it will support. I REALLY HOPE IT IS COMPATABLE WITH BLUETOOTH! I have dongles up the yin yang and bluetooth would be ideal. I'm not going to get it unless it supports bluetooth!

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Автор сообщения: DirtyCamper

In normal wireless mode, that radio dongle does absolutely nothing on my systems.

We were talking about the controller, it was a reply to your comment about the behavior of the controller in bluetooth mode. The radio dongle has no modes, you cannot switch the dongle to bluetooth.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but I'm not sure how your last comment relates to your previous one.

I think the radio dongle is set up to expose some controller interface when there are controllers connected, likely working as a hub and exposing the same interface as when connecting the controller directly through USB cable.

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Автор сообщения: DirtyCamper

Автор сообщения: Ferk

Isn't that the case as well for normal wireless mode?

In normal wireless mode, that radio dongle does absolutely nothing on my systems.
It needs something to make it work it seems...
But I was never able to make it work as a generic hid device on a generic linux system.
I tested that somewhere in 2015 when I got them, so things might have changed since.
But initially, no, the wireless dongle is a dud without some software initializing it.

Wasn't a dud too me. O_O

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

\Wasn't a dud too me. O_O

then I should retest it...

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Автор сообщения: DirtyCamper

Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

\Wasn't a dud too me. O_O

then I should retest it...

Well I had steam running when I first used it...

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Автор сообщения: DirtyCamper

Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

\Wasn't a dud too me. O_O

then I should retest it...

Oh, you actually meant the controller connected to the dongle?
It does work as a mouse, and the dpad as the arrow keys, the A button as Enter, etc. Even without Steam running. At least in Windows.

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Автор сообщения: DirtyCamper

then I should retest it...

Oh, you actually meant the controller connected to the dongle?
It does work as a mouse, and the dpad as the arrow keys, the A button as Enter, etc. Even without Steam running. At least in Windows.

Full wireless is what I was talking about. And for me the dongle fully works.

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For standard bluetooth, https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7728-QESJ-4420#use

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Автор сообщения: Tutacat

For standard bluetooth, https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7728-QESJ-4420#use

It's not really standered since it is BLE or something like that. And I been too that URL before. But what they got on there does not match what I see on my screen....

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

Автор сообщения: Tutacat

For standard bluetooth, https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7728-QESJ-4420#use

It's not really standered since it is BLE or something like that. And I been too that URL before. But what they got on there does not match what I see on my screen....

Bluetooth Low Energy has been a standard since Bluetooth 4.0 was adopted in 2010. That BLE it is not backwards compatible with Classic Bluetooth doesn't change that it is now a standard version of Bluetooth, and one that is supported by all devices that support Bluetooth 5 (and a lot of devices that support 4.0+) Chances are that if your phone, tablet or other device is capable of running the Steam Link app, that it also supports BLE.

If what you're seeing isn't matching what's at that link, it could be because the whole thing is still in beta, and changes are being made regularly to Steam.

EDIT: My mistake. Apparently Bluetooth support for the Steam Controller is just now out of beta, about an hour ago as I type this.

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

It's not really standered since it is BLE or something like that. And I been too that URL before. But what they got on there does not match what I see on my screen....

Bluetooth Low Energy has been a standard since Bluetooth 4.0 was adopted in 2010. That BLE it is not backwards compatible with Classic Bluetooth doesn't change that it is now a standard version of Bluetooth, and one that is supported by all devices that support Bluetooth 5 (and a lot of devices that support 4.0+) Chances are that if your phone, tablet or other device is capable of running the Steam Link app, that it also supports BLE.

If what you're seeing isn't matching what's at that link, it could be because the whole thing is still in beta, and changes are being made regularly to Steam.

EDIT: My mistake. Apparently Bluetooth support for the Steam Controller is just now out of beta, about an hour ago as I type this.

It being "standered since Bluetooth 4.0 as that isn't standered either. And I been using it on a device that can't use Bluetooth 5.... And you didn't read what I said and just gave me information that I know of already.... The Website URL is showing old info, that no longer shows up... This has nothing to do with it being beta still.... And yea you didn't even read my comments clearly...

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

It being "standered since Bluetooth 4.0 as that isn't standered either. And I been using it on a device that can't use Bluetooth 5.... And you didn't read what I said and just gave me information that I know of already.... The Website URL is showing old info, that no longer shows up... This has nothing to do with it being beta still.... And yea you didn't even read my comments clearly...

What part of an international standard set by the organization that created Bluetooth makes it not standard?

A website showing inaccurate information for a feature still in development has everything to do with it recently being in beta.

Although, at this point I'm wondering if you're trolling, or if you don't know what you're doing. Since you don't know what the definition of "standard" is, nor do you appear to know what beta software is.

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

It being "standered since Bluetooth 4.0 as that isn't standered either. And I been using it on a device that can't use Bluetooth 5....

"Standered" is not a word, "stander" is not a verb.

The only thing a protocol needs to be a standard is support by enough companies, and both bluetooth 4.0 and 5.0 have it, internationally... whether or not there are old devices that do not support it has nothing to do with it being a standard.

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Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

It being "standered since Bluetooth 4.0 as that isn't standered either. And I been using it on a device that can't use Bluetooth 5.... And you didn't read what I said and just gave me information that I know of already.... The Website URL is showing old info, that no longer shows up... This has nothing to do with it being beta still.... And yea you didn't even read my comments clearly...

What part of an international standard set by the organization that created Bluetooth makes it not standard?

A website showing inaccurate information for a feature still in development has everything to do with it recently being in beta.

Although, at this point I'm wondering if you're trolling, or if you don't know what you're doing. Since you don't know what the definition of "standard" is, nor do you appear to know what beta software is.

To the first question, the people that created bluetooth says this them selfs. To your second message, no it does not. The web page it's self is very old and it doesn't show the very option that Steam is telling me to use. So there for you didn't read my comments... And to your third message, no I am not trolling, I want to play my games!!!! And I know what I am doing, I do program after all, so you can't be talking ♥♥♥♥ onto others that you don't even know. And I do know the definition of the word standard.... And I know what beta software is dude. I make beta programs as it is... Try looking them up on websites before you talk ♥♥♥♥. Again you don't even know me so why you even talking ♥♥♥♥ at me?

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Автор сообщения: Ferk

Автор сообщения: Zeke Polaris

It being "standered since Bluetooth 4.0 as that isn't standered either. And I been using it on a device that can't use Bluetooth 5....

"Standered" is not a word, "stander" is not a verb.

The only thing a protocol needs to be a standard is support by enough companies, and both bluetooth 4.0 and 5.0 have it, internationally... whether or not there are old devices that do not support it has nothing to do with it being a standard.

You didn't read what I just said at all.... This shows you don't know anything to be talking. That doesn't mean it is standard...... And I never said, stander.... Wow all you guys are a bunch of trolls. This is why I told Steam devs that I don't like using these things because NO ONE ANSWERS LEGIT!!! It's just either more questions or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ replies from trolls... And old devices can't support new bluetooth services... So there for your reply means nothing. And I just said, I can use it on my phone.. And again you guys didn't even read my messages at all.

[DirtyCamper]

Please guys, don't let me regret resurrecting this old thread.
BLE works, and over 90% of phones should support BLE.
BLE has been part of the bluetooth standard before the SC was a thing. BLE is not compatible with BR or EDR BT, but you don't have to support both to be called BT compatible.
BLE uses a simpler modulation scheme, problably one of the things needed to have a lower latency.
So yes, SC is BT compatible, but it might not be compatible with your BT.
To be honest: I wonder how that's still possible... I know I had a hard timing searching for a BT (non BLE) HRM because my phone did not support BLE, back in 2011... My 2014 and newer phones all had BLE.