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I am really curious what kinds of add-ons independent developers would create with a steam controller with these upgrades.
i think the cost of those ports shouldnt be enough to become "prohibitive". they could offer a version that includes an accessory like those i suggested as the "luxury-pro version" (a decent lavalier type mono mic could be be a bit expensive), and the basic without them.
sure it would be a bit more expensive than not including them, but if its the "standard version" does have them, after a few months of sales, the prices can drop as usually happens. if it becomes "standard" third party controllers could occasionally pop, maybe a lot cheaper since those would probably lack the trackpads.
im also thinking, maybe the body of a controller could be designed to include air holes like some mouses, and inside include the mini fans, while also an "inner box" to protect electronics from accidental spills by careless users, lol. a holed-body has the advantage that it could be lighter, and maybe a bit less expensive (unless made of some aluminum alloy, which oculd also be cool imo, but obv "luxury stuff"). but maybe thats a bad idea, since that could be harder to keep clean. who knows (still think could be a nice experiment).
maybe valve should also offer freely the 3d models to allow people to experiment, like they did with the first version of the steam controller (even when not many people adopted them)
no; there's no need for all that. The 3.5 audio port would be best on a Steam link / Steam Deck dock, along with the USB port. There is absolutely no need for it on the controller.
If you need a USB port, make it a single USB-C so it is as versatile as possible and not just a gadget / gimmick port.
please for the love of God do not add fans or any more wearable parts than necessary.
Literally all Valve needs to do for success is to take the Steam Deck, remove everything except the controls, shrink the size to a controller format, and done.
https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1861543924470251771
Theres a need, but you lack imagination to get it. think a bit more why im suggesting it, rather than discarding the idea:
* but, if you truly get it, and dislike using earbuds or headphones while playing, then is ok if you chose to not use such option.
if a controller with bluetooth connection includes the audio port, the distance between a controller while you hold it, and the cables for most headphones and earbuds, would be enough.
if the audio port only exists in a dock, then you will probably need an extra cable as extension, which sometimes can decrease the quality of audio or add noise. if the port is in the controller, you can change position and you wouldnt need to be "attached" to the dock, and also risk pulling it accidentally with your deck.
the audio port in the controller, is not only convenient, but also makes safer to leave the steam deck alone in the dock elsewhere.
Again, what im suggesting is meant as optional feature. you dont like a feature, you can ignore it and never use it, or use a more basic controller that also lacks trackpads.
there are many "controller formats" and many are pretty bad. imo, one of the best ones was the classic ps1 and ps2 era controllers; and this have been so successful, that many third party devs make theirs based in those.
yes, i saw this one. its not terrible, but imo, is also not as ergonomic as the original steam controller. i get that the steam deck needed to use small(er) trackpads, to make it as compact as possible, while also offering enough space for a screen; but those trackpads, in a controller, are just too small. a bigger trackpad allows more precise control.
also, if the steam deck was made with the same form factor as that controller, it would suck. the closest thing to that form i remember was something sega did before they stopped making consoles; maybe also nintendo did something similar, and also failed.
All PlayStation controllers are horrible. They've always been ergonomic nightmares since they are tiny AF, only beaten by the Nintendo Switch controllers. They are copied because the console was popular...
No; the Steam Deck didn't need to use square, smaller trackpads. Valve chose to switch to square trackpads because it was easier or more ergonomic to hit the corners of the screen on a square shape trackpad rather than a circle. In addition, the Steam deck trackpads are much more sensitive which means they're more precise and better in every way. I doubted the square, smaller trackpads of steamd deck over the large circle ones on the Steam Controller, but to be honest, I much prefer the Steam Deck now.
I own 7 Steam Controllers, I'm about as die-hard of a Steam Controller fan as you're going to find. In addition, I am the epitome of the Steam Controller's target audience. PC gamer that doesn't want to be holed up in the office away from his wife or family. I want nothing more for the Steam Controller to succeed, but it doesn't need additional, wearable features that are better suited on other devices.
there is benefit, and there no "clutter" since normally theres nothing else you are going to place over the controller. you just dont like it, but thats another thing.
Thats your subjective perspective: most people do find them comfortable, and they are copied for that reason. Those also werent completely original: their form was based in the super nintendo controllers, which also were more comfortable and popular than those made by sega (which for whatever reason, seem to have influenced microsoft ones, more than nintendo ones: their first ones were widder, larger and literally less ergonomic, and then later they finally began to make them closer to those from playstation).
the popularity from the first playstations came not only from the games it offered, but because the controllers were also well accepted and liked (including the location of the buttons).
if they were "ergonomic nightmares", but the system itself was good, people would have spend more in additional controllers with other form and aspect. that never happened, and the few companies that have made "weird" controllers, usually fail because they are not ergonomic. in fact, most third party companies that make controllers, including the cheapest ones, usually try to emulate the playstation controllers, even if they could try others.
you may be of the few that dislike them, but they are ergonomic. the only controller that is more ergonomic than those, is the first commercial version of the steam controller (which could probably had been more accepted if they had included two joysticks, and maybe a bit smaller trackpads, but not as small as those in the steam deck).
Do you have "squared" fingers? no? "ergonomic" is related to human body proportions, and form.
Also precision, relative to how the trackpads work, doesnt "require to reach the corners", is about motion relative to the center. The larger the distance the finger can travel, the more precise movement and control you can get. Ideally, the user should never need to reach the corners in a trackpad to position a cursor in the corner of the screen.
Now, they could also used smaller, circular (and concave) trackpads, but they didnt (the new ones are flat and squared), because the area would probably limit more the size than a square trackpad; also square trackpads are probably cheaper to produce.
im makes sense to use a square trackpad is their objective was to preserve their original design, but also as part of trying to reduce the cost as much as possible.
Lol, that is meaningless, relative to the topic. Also my arguments are about not only the form but something people that would prefer to play using earbuds or headphones do find useful, and the reason also this suggestion is a "very original idea" i came out of nothing (other hardware devs have made it for other companies; and some people use that feature).
All that has also nothing to do with brand. So, that never helps to support your previous comments, but actually does the opposite, because you are trying to appeal through emotion, rather than be able to focus in what im saying.
you dont like the feature, thats ok. but others do find it useful, and having it as on -option- is part of the point im making.
lol, hope you are joking, because if thats honestly how you think, imo you need to consider reading about narcissism.
also, a 3.5 audio port isnt a "wearable feature" ("wearable " means "something you wear", like vr goggles): is literally a tiny hole, in a place where there normally nothing else.
hope you can write something funnier, but your arguments, dont work