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[chaza]

I’m actually really enjoying the controller. It has some great features, and I have had no trouble getting used to it/ doing well in all my games. I’ve even been playing some black ops 3 mp with great success! The main problem I have with it is that it makes my hands hurt like mad. Has anyone experienced this? Is it something that will go away as my hands get used to it? I’ve seen people complain about it being big and light, but it feels far too heavy and small to me (used to ps4 controller) the housing for the triggers aren’t far enough out, so it cramps my fingers down. To be fair, I also had this trouble with the 360 controller due to the battery back and trigger casing… never understood how people could use that thing

[God Ginrai]

Have you tried changing your grip on the controller? There may be another position you can hold it that works better for you.

[chaza]

I found if I rest my index fingers on the trigger housing, then that solves the pain problem, but then I loose access to the grip buttons :(

[God Ginrai]

Originally posted by chaza2:

I found if I rest my index fingers on the trigger housing, then that solves the pain problem, but then I loose access to the grip buttons :(

You can't hit them with your middle fingers?

[chaza]

I can, but my hands are kind of large, and so they rub against the housing of the triggers causing them to twist painfully

[cammelspit]

Well, I can only say that I have had some permanent nerve damage in both wrists from an old injury. Even though I have spoken of this before I think this might help. many controller DO hurt me, pretty much all of them. What most people seem to not get right away is how loosely you can hold the controller and how lightly you can touch the pads and still get great response from them. Remember this controller is angled up and not down because you need to be able to access all the surface area of both pads. If you are trying to grip it like you would your PS controllers I can see why you would have some pains. Another thing to mention is you actually use less surface for the point where your thumbs make contact on the pads and as such you get more pin point accuracy. I tell you just try adjusting your grip a bit. I didnt get immediate pain but I did feel very uncomfortable for the first hour or so till it clicked and now I can go all day without issues.

[God Ginrai]

^ I don't grip it like this guy, but in another way that is lower than I would grip a 360 or Wii U Pro controller, and I don't experience pain either. That's why I suggested trying different grips to find one that works for you.

[#CuteFaceJay]

Standard. when I went back to my 360 during Halo 4 release I ended up getting mental hand cramps because I wasn't use to playing a console game on a controller after being away from it for so long.

[cammelspit]

Yeah well, we all shouldn't but the slope of the handles makes me want to cradle it so that's what I do. Either way you definitely don't NEED to grip tightly and tight grips are a real aggravating factor for RSI and for my own numb fingers, worth a shot.

[cammelspit]

Originally posted by #CuteFaceJay:

Standard. when I went back to my 360 during Halo 4 release I ended up getting mental hand cramps because I wasn't use to playing a console game on a controller after being away from it for so long.

What do they say, first world problems right? Just playing around. :)

[chaza]

Been playing with it some more. I found that if I don't grip it at all and just let it rest on the tips of my fingers; most all the pain goes away. The only problem with that is my palms aren't touching anything... which looks super awkward, but eh, whatever works. I feel like they really didn't put much consideration to different sized hands. Seems like the grips only work for one size.

[cammelspit]

I dont mean in any way to marginalize your complaint, I dont. I have my own issues too. I will say though that my 3 year old has played goat simulator with my SC and I have gigantic sausage fingers and they are long too. So it's at least as good at general hand sizes as the 360 controller is. Really, I kinda want mine to be bigger but you cant have everything!

[chaza]

Originally posted by cammelspit:

I dont mean in any way to marginalize your complaint, I dont. I have my own issues too. I will say though that my 3 year old has played goat simulator with my SC and I have gigantic sausage fingers and they are long too. So it's at least as good at general hand sizes as the 360 controller is. Really, I kinda want mine to be bigger but you cant have everything! :eng:

Yeah I'm still going to keep it/ use it. I still like it. It’s just got some stiff competition. It's not like the grips are bad, but still feels like there’s plenty of room for improvement. Even just trimming down the trigger casing a little bit would totally fix it for me. On a side note, I want steam os to succeed, but I can't see general audiences having enough patience to get used to this controller. What do you guys think?

[God Ginrai]

Originally posted by chaza2:

Yeah I'm still going to keep it/ use it. I still like it. It’s just got some stiff competition. It's not like the grips are bad, but still feels like there’s plenty of room for improvement. Even just trimming down the trigger casing a little bit would totally fix it for me. On a side note, I want steam os to succeed, but I can't see general audiences having enough patience to get used to this controller. What do you guys think?

I think Valve is banking on the early adopters who *do* have the patience creating configurations that just "work" for the less patient people who try it in the future. That, and convincing companies to add Steam Controller support, thus having official configurations as well.

[Taklu]

Originally posted by God Ginrai:

I think Valve is banking on the early adopters who *do* have the patience creating configurations that just "work" for the less patient people who try it in the future. That, and convincing companies to add Steam Controller support, thus having official configurations as well.

I agree with this. while the begining of the release will be rough waters I'm sure more people will grow to like the steam controller and steam machines because of the community.

I wonder still how the steam machines will market they really are going to be on a rocky road. Their selling point is really just being compact (I'm personally building my own miniITX computer though)

[chaza]

Originally posted by Taklu:

Originally posted by God Ginrai:

I think Valve is banking on the early adopters who *do* have the patience creating configurations that just "work" for the less patient people who try it in the future. That, and convincing companies to add Steam Controller support, thus having official configurations as well.

I agree with this. while the begining of the release will be rough waters I'm sure more people will grow to like the steam controller and steam machines because of the community.

I wonder still how the steam machines will market they really are going to be on a rocky road. Their selling point is really just being compact (I'm personally building my own miniITX computer though)

If that’s the game they’re planning, that’s a long game. Early adopters are the vast minority. I wasn't talking much about configurations, so much as the controller itself. There’s a fairly steep learning curve for the touch pads, and the general way you have to hold the controller. Once (if) it does make it to general audiences, I feel like they might just get frustrated.