No Windows key bindings allowed

[HER0 01]

It would be nice if more keys, at least the Windows key, were available for binding in the controller config. Running With Rifles uses it as a modifier for commanding squads, but the controller cannot be set up in that way.

[Bearded Dream]

One could argue that it's bad design to use the super key for anything in a game. Just rebind that to another key in Running with Rifles. You'll notice that the super key is in fact the only standard key that you cannot use when setting up your controller profile. I'm thinking that was deliberate and not an oversight.

[HER0 01]

Yet we have print screen, which maybe should not be the default in any game either. Best to have all the keys available than to arbitrarily exclude the super keys.

For the game, this is a solved problem, as I can change the keybinding. The issue is setting up a controller config that will "just work" and provide all the same functions as someone using a mouse and keyboard. In addition, the Steam Controller works outside of games, and if someone wants to set one up to have desktop shortcuts, why stop them? Of course, it may be possible in that case with external software, but RWR is a real case where the Steam Controller is limited by a seemingly small software choice.

[God Ginrai]

Originally posted by HER0 01:

Yet we have print screen, which maybe should not be the default in any game either. Best to have all the keys available than to arbitrarily exclude the super keys.

You're right, because a gamer would never want to screenshot a cool thing that happened in their game. Makes *TOTAL* sense.

[[GS]Gregory]

Printscreen has no needed use besides taking a screenshot. the win key is used to alt tab and no game should use the win key.

[God Ginrai]

Originally posted by (SnD)GSGregory:

Printscreen has no needed use besides taking a screenshot. the win key is used to alt tab and no game should use the win key.

Alt-Tab is used to alt-tab... <.<

Either way, tho', Super and Meta are system-use and really shouldn't be used as bindings in games.

[HER0 01]

Even if it isn't a default, it is a key that anyone can use in any game that allows rebinding. I use my super key in Arma because I don't have a numpad. Why restrict this?

[CrushDepth]

Nobody needs the windows key in-game, but we DO need it on the desktop, especially on windows 10. You need it to switch between desktops, it can open the start menu without having to move the cursor to the button, and when combined with arrow key inputs it can snap windows to the sides of the monitor. It's super helpful and I use it all the time. If the steam controller could access it then it would make desktop navigation SO much easier!

[kinnikunky]

Yep, I'd like the Windows key for desktop mode. More importantly tho, my partner wants a MAC *COMMAND* key for navigating her Mac computer... Just icing, controller is great

[cammelspit]

Hey, I would like you all to windows users to try something that will BLOW your mind! Go on a head and hit Ctrt + Esc and, your welcome BTW.

EDIT: Sorry, I didnt want to come across as an ass, I just wanted to be a little funny. There was a time when we didnt have super keys at all and when windows happened and we still had a bunch of keyboards without them, we made due with what we had. :)

[RealityQuotient]

Originally posted by cammelspit:

Hey, I would like you all to windows users to try something that will BLOW your mind! Go on a head and hit Ctrt + Esc and, your welcome BTW.

EDIT: Sorry, I didnt want to come across as an ass, I just wanted to be a little funny. There was a time when we didnt have super keys at all and when windows happened and we still had a bunch of keyboards without them, we made due with what we had. :)

Do note, however, that the default desktop config is LBumper=Lctrl and >=ESC. In Win8.1 pressing CTRL+ESC does indeed brink up the tile screen, pressing LBumper+> doesn't.

EDIT: pressing LBumper and > at the same time does work, which is slightly different than the actual keyboard where you hold down CTRL and tap ESC. It would seem that whether you tap or hold a controller button it only registers a keypress and release...it doesn't hold the key down. Interesting! Now we know we can bring up the start window without having to bind the Windows key at any rate.

[Blitzkraken]

Also, you can use Windows Key+Printscreen to save screenshots directly to your pictures folder. So, while I don't have a use for it (steam logo+right trigger saves a screenshot too), it is still a key that may be useful to some people!

[RealityQuotient]

*sigh* Just imagine what life would be like if Valve would properly document all the functions of this thing...

[cammelspit]

Sp then you can just do a multi bind and have it hit ctrl and esc at the same time, should work. I know there used to be a shortcut on the KB that was exactly the same as hitting the windows key. For the life of me I cant remember because I finally broke my super keyless mech KB about a decade ago so I havent had need of it. I remember in the day I could even do any WindowsKey + Whatever with the stand in arrangement. It was like playing finger twister but I got good at it since I used that KB for like, 15 years or something.

[HER0 01]

Whoo! Latest beta fixed it. Thanks Valve :D

[cammelspit]

Ya and media keys... Good on them for listening to us. That's why I love valve.