[Bug] Can't move cursor in overlay

[Cybolic]

When running the controller in Mouse+Keyboard emulation mode, I can't get the cursor to move in the overlay (e.g. for changing controller setup) and if I try to use the mouse instead, the mouse cursor will flicker and eventually the entire overlay UI will become completely unresponsive, forcing a kill from the virtual terminal (I'm running Linux).

[Balderick]

okay. After rereading what you describe in op on the overlay input issue i noticed that the my xbox controller no longer shows a mouse cursor but i can still navigate using left analog stick. The only time i see a mouse cursor is if i use my mouse.

Does navigation in overlay work as expected when using trackpad as an analog stick and not a mouse?

btw steam controller does not use emulation for switching track pad functionality. This video is lengthy but it is very interesting and useful in understanding how a steam controller works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfN5WK7OzU8

[Cybolic]

The trackpad behaviour in browser mode works differently in SteamOS and Ubuntu. In Ubuntu, the left trackpad seems to move the viewport ever so slightly, but start off by zooming to maximum; the right trackpad emulates a mouse (seems to be in keyboard+mouse mode). In SteamOS, the left trackpad functions as inverse/natural scroll and the right trackpad doesn't seem to do anything.

Correction: In SteamOS, when selecting "Open in browser", the right trackpad emulates mouse as well, but not in the community browser.

[8BitCerberus]

Again, as I said before, the controller is in gamepad mode in SteamOS/Big Picture Mode. Even when you use it in a game as keyboard and mouse, once you switch from the game to the overlay, it's back to gamepad. Yes, it's annoying, no it's not a bug, it's been like this since they added xinput support to the controller way back from the prototype.

I've put in a feature request/improvement for it to default to gamepad+mouse mode instead. I suggest you write to Valve using the email address PopinFRESH provided in his quote ( [e-mail] ) and make this feature request to Valve directly as well.

And Balderick, you need to chill, that tantrum was uncalled for.

[Balderick]

and how are the community kept in the loop if everybody decides to email Valve directly and individually.?

Maybe if you started a thread explaining your request and the issues that made that request needed you could help others like Cybolic as well as giving a means to help Valve employees prioritise things!?.

I just think using the support methods indicated by Valve on their support pages is the way for everybody to go and get support.

Your emails have obviously done nothing to help this issue! What you and popinFRESH suggest is not what Valve themselves recommend.
I really do not mind being corrected or given information that helps me change my opinion.


For anybody wishing to report bugs, request new features or simply discuss Big Picture the place to go is http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bigpicture/discussions/

[Cybolic]

引用自 8-Bit Cerberus：

Again, as I said before, the controller is in gamepad mode in SteamOS/Big Picture Mode. Even when you use it in a game as keyboard and mouse, once you switch from the game to the overlay, it's back to gamepad. Yes, it's annoying, no it's not a bug, it's been like this since they added xinput support to the controller way back from the prototype.

I've put in a feature request/improvement for it to default to gamepad+mouse mode instead. I suggest you write to Valve using the email address PopinFRESH provided in his quote ( [e-mail] ) and make this feature request to Valve directly as well.

And Balderick, you need to chill, that tantrum was uncalled for.

I know and I have no issue with this. The bug I'm describing is that the controller doesn't work in the overlay at all when it has previously been set to keyboard+mouse mode.

I have now reinstalled Ubuntu (actually Kubuntu this time, but that shouldn't make a difference) and will test later whether that helped.

[Balderick]

just found this http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta#announcements/detail/48770434454152226

Opt in to beta client and if you have already Check for steam client updates... ;)

[8BitCerberus]

引用自 Balderick：

and how are the community kept in the loop if everybody decides to email Valve directly and individually.?

How do adding bug reports to an open forum where they'll get buried in mounds of other unrelated questions, answers and topics ensure that Valve actually sees the bug report?

We're not saying don't report any bugs you have here, we're saying that you also need to send them to Valve directly so they are sure to see them at the official channel they have opened for direct communication.

Your emails have obviously done nothing to help this issue! What you and popinFRESH suggest is not what Valve themselves recommend.
I really do not mind being corrected or given information that helps me change my opinion.

I personally use the beta testing bug tracker that we were given access to in 2013. I put my suggestion in yesterday so no, I would not expect a response this soon. As for what Valve themselves have recommended:

引用自 [e-mail]：

The first Steam Link and Steam Controller pre-order units are scheduled to arrive over the next few days.

We're eager to hear your feedback as we continue to make changes and improvements leading up to the full retail launch on November 10th. For the next few weeks, we recommend that you opt in to the Steam client beta (through the System settings panel in the Big Picture UI) so that you'll be running the most current fixes and functionality.

We'll be keeping an eye on forums everywhere, but we've also set up a contact email address for everyone on the team: [e-mail]. Whether you're having a great time or running into issues, we want to know.

Thank you

They want you to send feedback directly to them through that email becuase it's a direct line to the hardware team and much easier for them to parse than trying to dig through forum posts. Sure, they may be checking forums, but that doesn't guarantee that they will see every topic and bug report someone posts.

Stop being petulant.

[Cybolic]

引用自 Balderick：

just found this http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta#announcements/detail/48770434454152226

Opt in to beta client and if you have already Check for steam client updates... ;)

Just tried; no change on Ubuntu, Portal 2 still loses contact with the controller after entering the controller setup overlay.

Edit: Nevermind! Portal 2 works in Linux using the newest Steam beta version :D

[Balderick]

8 bit send me a friend request if want to discuss anything that is not on topic in this thread. You are making a mountain out of mole hill. popinFRESH was wrong simple as. How are we helping Cybolic or the community by appearing to be bickering over something that is now water under the bridge? Valve dev has now stickied the steam support pages info which is above your FAQ. All i have done is use official documentation to prove you and popinFRESH wrong and that you have both taken an email message out of context. That message clearly defines these discussions do get reviewed by Valve devs and is primary source of expected feedback just like the steam support steam controller pages say. ref:

引用自 Valve Corporation：

We'll be keeping an eye on forums everywhere, but we've also set up a contact email address for everyone on the team: [e-mail].

http://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/0/490123197947629631/

[Cybolic]

The latest Steam client beta seems to have fixed this issue. Show's over folks! (posted using the Steam controller :P)

[Balderick]

Credit to Valve devs for pushing those fixes to beta client very quickly.