With the new Controller Configurator UI...

[Hawthorne]

... How do you do Mode Shifting? (Example: I'm using a DualSense Edge, and I want to make it so that when I hold circle, the left joystick becomes instead the right joystick)? Perhaps the answer is that Mode Shifting was removed as you're now meant to use Action Sets instead, so if that's the case, please confirm.

And actually, is there any documentation that I can read myself regarding all the changes from the new UI? The new Steam update that removed "-oldbigpicture" has left me with quite a lot to learn as I'm now using the new interface for the first time, heh.

[ugafan]

Click on Left Joystick Behavior. Scroll to the bottom of the drop down menu and you'll see an option to Create a Mode Shift.

Go to the mode shift and click on the gear icon to the right. Set the mode shift button to Circle.

[O小0可O]

how to use oldbigpicture？

[Beauregarde]

I had thought it was annoying to have one configurator in "small view" and another in "normal", but it is WAY more annoying to only have the one.

[Hawthorne]

Originally posted by ugafan:

Click on Left Joystick Behavior. Scroll to the bottom of the drop down menu and you'll see an option to Create a Mode Shift.

Go to the mode shift and click on the gear icon to the right. Set the mode shift button to Circle.

Thanks again Ugafan! Consistently one of the most helpful people on the steam forums that I've met.

Originally posted by O小0可O:

how to use oldbigpicture？

Prior to the latest steam update you could add "-oldbigpicture" as a command line to your shortcut to launch steam, but that doesn't work anymore as of the latest steam patch, unfortunately.

Originally posted by Beauregarde:

I had thought it was annoying to have one configurator in "small view" and another in "normal", but it is WAY more annoying to only have the one.

Yeah, not a fan at all of the new UI, oh well

[~ Diviad ~]

I spent at least a half hour the other night (closer to 45 minutes I think) looking for the *Mode Shift* option as well. I went to other controller profiles that I used mode-shifts to see if I could get a clue, but could not make sense why I had the existing mode shift options in my other profiles but for the life of me, could not find how to do a simple mode shift for the profile I was using in a new game. I was trying to change the function of the RT and looked everywhere, in every menu that had to do with the RT and the button I was wanting to use as the Shift. The new GUI for the SC is terribly inefficient and non-intuitive. I thought the oldbigpicture mode might have been disabled because it stopped working :( Hawthorne above just confirmed it.

I ended up make an action layer instead to modify one single input.

[Hawthorne]

Originally posted by ~ Diviad ~:

I spent at least a half hour the other night (closer to 45 minutes I think) looking for the *Mode Shift* option as well. I went to other controller profiles that I used mode-shifts to see if I could get a clue, but could not make sense why I had the existing mode shift options in my other profiles but for the life of me, could not find how to do a simple mode shift for the profile I was using in a new game. I was trying to change the function of the RT and looked everywhere, in every menu that had to do with the RT and the button I was wanting to use as the Shift. The new GUI for the SC is terribly inefficient and non-intuitive. I thought the oldbigpicture mode might have been disabled because it stopped working :( Hawthorne above just confirmed it.

I ended up make an action layer instead to modify one single input.

Hey Diviad, I feel your pain! Of note, in the main Steam forums people were saying that they were able to get the old UI by using -vgui instead -- it didn't seem to work for me personally (and not sure if they were talking about BPM or just the old desktop library look or something), but it seemed to work for others, so you may wish to give it a shot!

[~ Diviad ~]

Originally posted by Hawthorne:

Hey Diviad, I feel your pain! Of note, in the main Steam forums people were saying that they were able to get the old UI by using -vgui instead -- it didn't seem to work for me personally (and not sure if they were talking about BPM or just the old desktop library look or something), but it seemed to work for others, so you may wish to give it a shot!

I tried -vgui but did not work :(

[Marvin Grooveshirt]

Originally posted by ~ Diviad ~:

Originally posted by Hawthorne:

Hey Diviad, I feel your pain! Of note, in the main Steam forums people were saying that they were able to get the old UI by using -vgui instead -- it didn't seem to work for me personally (and not sure if they were talking about BPM or just the old desktop library look or something), but it seemed to work for others, so you may wish to give it a shot!

I tried -vgui but did not work :(

You must use the windows fullscreen shortcut (alt+enter) to access old BPM with the -vgui argument

[Hawthorne]

Originally posted by Marvin Grooveshirt:

Originally posted by ~ Diviad ~:

I tried -vgui but did not work :(

You must use the windows fullscreen shortcut (alt+enter) to access old BPM with the -vgui argument

OMG, I can't believe it. In a good way. I'd resigned myself to the awful new UI, but even after a month I still hate it. Praise be to GabeN

edit: of note, if you ever accidentally go into the new BPM UI (for example, by clicking the icon instead of using alt+tab), then you can't use alt+enter anymore and you'll need to restart Steam (with the -vgui command shortcut).