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Steam Controller

Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 6:14am
Is this possible? (reset camera)
Hello there

I recently been watching some Splatoon 2 stuff.. don't own a switch, but I have heard good stuff about it, not to mention.. the gyro in the game. I came across some videos and it showed that Splatoon 2 has a "reset camera" button.. that resets the cursor to the center of the screen.. AND YES!!!! I realise, that on a PC, where the mouse is, is ALWAYS center.. but is it possible to somehow do this? to make a button to reposition the camera back to a basic position or so?
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Purple Jan 6, 2018 @ 6:28am 
I don't know what kind of game that is, but i don't think it's possible in shooter games without the devs implementing it.
And the only center you'd get would be perhaps vertical, it's not like you can "center" in a shooter horizontally...because what even is center?
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by Purple Steaam Controller™:
I don't know what kind of game that is, but i don't think it's possible in shooter games without the devs implementing it.
And the only center you'd get would be perhaps vertical, it's not like you can "center" in a shooter horizontally...because what even is center?

Idd, but I was hoping that MAYBE someone new of a third party software to do so.. or a work around... anything really, because it would really change the game when it comes to gyro control. I wish the Steam Controller was split in 2.. like the Joycons, because it would work so much better like that and you would be much more precise with the gyro aiming.. kinda like the "Valve Kunckles", but as far as I know, they are only for VR, unfortunately. But that concept would just be amazing for normal/competitive gaming as well.
cammelspit Jan 6, 2018 @ 8:09am 
Ok, so there is a little more to unpack here than you are probably aware. I will try not to ramble too much this time.

First off, no, there is not a reset camera button per se. What you would do is have a button to disable the gyro or only have the gyro enabled while touching the right pad, something like that, so you can selectively stop the gyro from moving, reset your physical location, reenable the gyro and then continue playing. You are looking for a 'ratcheting' motion here so you can make smaller adjustments as time goes on without having to deal with it being very far off and using a reset button. A reset camera button would actually require the game itself to directly support the Steam Input API and code for this functionality themselves. Bottom line, not going to happen very often if ever.

Also, don't be envious of the Switch gyro handling. I own one now and after mucking about with it a bit, the controls really are it's most glaring weak point. The gyros are crap, through and through. They move by themselves and drift worse than the SC currently does so I am not super happy with that. From what the forum was always saying it was better, it is not. Plus, they don't have a very high resolution for the gyros meaning aiming arrows in Zelda with the gyro is essentially an exercise in futility. Move one tick and you have totally overshot your target, correct for that and the same is true on the other side of your target. Hell, the Wii remote with Motion plus for Skyward Sword was many many times more accurate but then again, that one was really laggy because of Wii...

Frankly, I wish I could just use my SC on the Switch but since that is never going to happen, I just have to deal with it.

Not quite as rambly as usual! :comic:
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 8:27am 
You seem more like a crazy fanboy, than someone with actual points to make though xD
Purple Jan 6, 2018 @ 8:39am 
Originally posted by Spero:
I wish the Steam Controller was split in 2.. like the Joycons, because it would work so much better like that and you would be much more precise with the gyro aiming

I've thought about that too.
Like with kb+m - separated aiming, shooting from other inputs. or like that Razer thing.
Sometimes if i press grip buttons too abruptly it messes with the aim a bit, since all of your controls are on that one device.

Cerebrum123 Jan 6, 2018 @ 8:44am 
cammelspit, I'm wondering if you got a bad controller, because I've never had the issues you describe with your Switch controllers. The only issue I ever had with the gyros was that in Splatoon 2, the sensitivity options were a little too big of a jump between two points.

As someone who did pre-order, I got the bad left joycon connection issue. I sent it in to Nintendo, and they got it back to me in like 2 days, and worked better than the new Joycons that were built to avoid the issue. The customer service was some of the best I have had.

@Spero, yeah, this wouldn't really be possible without a game specifically supporting it. Best thing I've been able to do is just assign Gyro to Right touchpad touch. This way I can recalibrate my movements just by letting go of the pad, and making adjustments on the fly. Takes a bit of getting used to, but I've gotten a lot better at FPS games while using the SC than I have since the Wii and Metroid Prime Trilogy.
cammelspit Jan 6, 2018 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Purple Steaam Controller™:
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I've thought about that too.
Like with kb+m - separated aiming, shooting from other inputs. or like that Razer thing.
Sometimes if i press grip buttons too abruptly it messes with the aim a bit, since all of your controls are on that one device.

Pro tip, when you are driving and you see there is a red light up ahead, what do you do? You don't wait till the last minute and then jump from the gas to the brake instantly. You do something like lat off the gas and hover over the brake pedal so you can react more appropriately. You also do the same thing when you see someone turn on their blinkers in the lane next to you and they are looking like they might turn right into you. You prepare.

Same idea here with the grips. If you have your finger in position and your muscles ready to press the grip slightly before you actually press it, you won't mess up your aim so much. I know you can't always do this but I do it this way and generally, don't have any problems with it. At least it's worth a shot, right? :steamhappy:

Originally posted by Cerebrum123:
cammelspit, I'm wondering if you got a bad controller, because I've never had the issues you describe with your Switch controllers. The only issue I ever had with the gyros was that in Splatoon 2, the sensitivity options were a little too big of a jump between two points.

As someone who did pre-order, I got the bad left joycon connection issue. I sent it in to Nintendo, and they got it back to me in like 2 days and worked better than the new Joycons that were built to avoid the issue. The customer service was some of the best I have had.

I don't know about that one. I mean, it works only it seems obvious to me that the game was not designed to use the gyros. Unfortunately, I don't own any other games that do gyro aiming so I can test to see if it is just poorly implemented or what. The only reason why I know it is not just the controller is the fact that the joycons feel very similar and have the same low DPI grid that the pro controller has.

I might try replacing it though just to be sure. My right analog stick on the joycons makes some really loud springy noises as I use it too. Not that it doesn't work, it does but its loud and distracting. The left joycon is perfectly fine and quiet so I know it's only that one. SO I have to do this one at a time or I won't be able to play. For this kind of money, you would think they would have better quality control. :steamfacepalm:
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by cammelspit:
Originally posted by Purple Steaam Controller™:
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I've thought about that too.
Like with kb+m - separated aiming, shooting from other inputs. or like that Razer thing.
Sometimes if i press grip buttons too abruptly it messes with the aim a bit, since all of your controls are on that one device.

Pro tip, when you are driving and you see there is a red light up ahead, what do you do? You don't wait till the last minute and then jump from the gas to the brake instantly. You do something like lat off the gas and hover over the brake pedal so you can react more appropriately. You also do the same thing when you see someone turn on their blinkers in the lane next to you and they are looking like they might turn right into you. You prepare.

Same idea here with the grips. If you have your finger in position and your muscles ready to press the grip slightly before you actually press it, you won't mess up your aim so much. I know you can't always do this but I do it this way and generally, don't have any problems with it. At least it's worth a shot, right? :steamhappy:

Originally posted by Cerebrum123:
cammelspit, I'm wondering if you got a bad controller, because I've never had the issues you describe with your Switch controllers. The only issue I ever had with the gyros was that in Splatoon 2, the sensitivity options were a little too big of a jump between two points.

As someone who did pre-order, I got the bad left joycon connection issue. I sent it in to Nintendo, and they got it back to me in like 2 days and worked better than the new Joycons that were built to avoid the issue. The customer service was some of the best I have had.

I don't know about that one. I mean, it works only it seems obvious to me that the game was not designed to use the gyros. Unfortunately, I don't own any other games that do gyro aiming so I can test to see if it is just poorly implemented or what. The only reason why I know it is not just the controller is the fact that the joycons feel very similar and have the same low DPI grid that the pro controller has.

I might try replacing it though just to be sure. My right analog stick on the joycons makes some really loud springy noises as I use it too. Not that it doesn't work, it does but its loud and distracting. The left joycon is perfectly fine and quiet so I know it's only that one. SO I have to do this one at a time or I won't be able to play. For this kind of money, you would think they would have better quality control. :steamfacepalm:

Okay.. now you just seem retarded, please leave.. thanks.
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Purple Steaam Controller™:
Originally posted by Spero:
I wish the Steam Controller was split in 2.. like the Joycons, because it would work so much better like that and you would be much more precise with the gyro aiming

I've thought about that too.
Like with kb+m - separated aiming, shooting from other inputs. or like that Razer thing.
Sometimes if i press grip buttons too abruptly it messes with the aim a bit, since all of your controls are on that one device.

Exactly, I have also tried the Razer Hydra, which has motion controls and are two seperate controllers, unfortunately the design of it.. is horrible, the buttons are hard to access quickly and so, but the idea works perfectly, just hope some other company comes out with something like that.
cammelspit Jan 6, 2018 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Spero:
Okay.. now you just seem retarded, please leave.. thanks.
Please get off the internet, it is obviously too complicated for you with all the words in order meaning things. Thanks!

Seriously, who ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like this in response to genuinely helpful suggestions? A troll, that's who. Spero, if you don't want to have a discussion, then don't make a thread on a forum on the internet, it's just bad form and makes you look petty and weak posting something like this. Trolls post things explicitly to be inflammatory and you have done it twice now in one thread. I will not apologize for being helpful, I will not apologize for answering questions as they are presented, I will not apologize for being thorough, and I will not apologize for having an opinion about a controller. If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.

Now, I will assume you are having a crappy day and want someone to take it out on just try not make a fool out of yourself.
Last edited by cammelspit; Jan 6, 2018 @ 10:22am
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 10:37am 
Gl with your issues pal xD
Lose weight, get an education and learn to be objective.
cammelspit Jan 6, 2018 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Spero:
Gl with your issues pal xD
Lose weight, get an education and learn to be objective.
Sure, just ignoring your own ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to be passive aggressive? :comic: You can't in this game with me. Are you familiar with the plank eye parable? You should google it because it fits you perfectly. You need to learn from your mistakes and be a better person, not deflect by making more insults.

Goodluck with your issues pal!
Stop sitting on that novelty-sized dildo, graduate high school, stop taking heroin and learn to be objective.

See, I have no idea if you really are a butt loving high school drop out with an IV drug problem. it doesn't make any sense. Could literally put anything there I wanted and it would be equally stupid. The objective part, I challenge you to point out even one time I have not been objective? STatements of fact are objective, statements of opinion are subjective. Stating that there is no reset button and a proper reason why is an objective fact. Stating the issues I see with the Switch Gyro, objective fact. Stating you shouldn't be envious of the Switch gyros, subjective opinion. Do you see the difference there? I am not stating anything subjective as objective and vice versa yet you reply with, and I quote...

You seem more like a crazy fanboy, than someone with actual points to make though xD

See, this explicitly lays out the objective fact that you must not have read or couldn't understand my post above it. Many objective points were hit and a couple subjective suggestions were also made yet you don't seem to see any points? This is where you need to try to pick up an English textbook and read it, if you can, to understand how the language functions. The more you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that, the more stupid you make yourself look. I am trying to help you out here and you respond with obvious trolling. An attempt to get under my skin, well, you have managed to make me fear for your safety the next time it rains, I mean, turkeys drown in the rain all the time and they show about as much mental acuity. (Please note, Turkeys don't actually do this but it does illustrate my point. If interested you can visit https://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/turkey.asp)
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 11:19am 
Gl with your issues pal xD
Lose weight, get an education and learn to be objective.
cammelspit Jan 6, 2018 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by Spero:
Gl with your issues pal xD
Lose weight, get an education and learn to be objective.
Hehe, still nothing intelligent. Alright, looks like I am trying to match wits with an unarmed man. Lol, it proves my point better than anything else I suppose. :steammocking:
Pract1ce Jan 6, 2018 @ 11:30am 
Gl with your issues pal xD
Lose weight, get an education and learn to be objective.
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