Use Trackpad right?

[LOBO DAEDRA]

I have it for a few days and it had never been so bad playing, I just can not with the right trackpad.
I want to know if I'm using it badly, what I think is worse is that it is not maintained when directed to some side like the joystick.
I saw some comments that is just a matter of getting used to.
If someone can help you I appreciate it a lot.

[deeyal]

What game(s) in particular are you trying to play. Are you using one of the standard templates for the config,or a community config? Have you tweaked the config you are using?

[skinnyraf]

It depends if the right trackpad is set to emulate a mouse or a joystick. If it is set to emulate a joystick, then to move/scroll you need to place your thumb off the centre. If it is set to emulate a mouse, then you use it like a laptop touch pad, with the added effect of inertia, i.e. if you move your thumb quickly and raise it, the movement will continue for a while, as if there was a trackball underneath with a physical ball.

[Cerebrum123]

It's a learning process. When I tried at first it was a nightmare. Then I discovered the Edge Spin, and gyroscope settings. Those two things made the SC work like a dream .

[Baby Rev]

Hello Cerebrum123, are you able to elaborate more on them settings in terms of giving the SC more functionality, as I've had mine for a year now and never used it due to the trackpad being so messy and innacurate. Thank you =]!

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What game are you trying to play?

[Cerebrum123]

Originally posted by Tommy Shelby:

Hello Cerebrum123, are you able to elaborate more on them settings in terms of giving the SC more functionality, as I've had mine for a year now and never used it due to the trackpad being so messy and innacurate. Thank you =]!

Edge Spin basically means you can just move your thumb to the edge of the pad to continue movement in that direction. Just like when you hold an analog stick in one direction it continually moves the camera in that direction(in a FPS style game anyway). Gyroscope allows you to use the movement of the controller itself to fine tune your aim. The issue you describe sounds like you have the sensitivity up way too high. Another option to make things less "jittery" is the Minimal Movement Threshold option. I don't personally like this option since it can cause other issues.
This guide might also help. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=595597298

[LOBO DAEDRA]

Originally posted by deeyal:

What game(s) in particular are you trying to play. Are you using one of the standard templates for the config,or a community config? Have you tweaked the config you are using?

So far I have played borderlands, skyrim and call of juarez Guslinger.
The standard template.
I just started playing as I was.

[LOBO DAEDRA]

Originally posted by skinnyraf:

It depends if the right trackpad is set to emulate a mouse or a joystick. If it is set to emulate a joystick, then to move/scroll you need to place your thumb off the centre. If it is set to emulate a mouse, then you use it like a laptop touch pad, with the added effect of inertia, i.e. if you move your thumb quickly and raise it, the movement will continue for a while, as if there was a trackball underneath with a physical ball.

Okay, I'll try to change it.

[LOBO DAEDRA]

Originally posted by Cerebrum123:

It's a learning process. When I tried at first it was a nightmare. Then I discovered the Edge Spin, and gyroscope settings. Those two things made the SC work like a dream .

I hope so.

[LOBO DAEDRA]

Originally posted by Akim:

What game are you trying to play?

I've tried Borderlands, Skyrim and Call of Juarez Gunslinger

[ugafan]

the best input for aiming is mouse (not mouse-like joystick). be sure to use mouse for any shooter. skyrim is kind of weird because you have to choose keyboard and mouse or gamepad, you can't use a combination of both. if you want to use mouse input with that game, you'll have to diasable gamepad and set the analog stick as directional pad with WASD keys. you'll also need to bind the face buttons as keyboard keys.

[cammelspit]

Borderlands, the first one, and the second one both work with mouse and KB at the same time. As a general rule, you want to use a genuine mouse for the right pad and gamepad for the rest if the game allows it. Skyrim is dumb tho and it ONLY allows you to use gamepad only or mouse and KB only. You kind of have to make the choice. Do you want to retain that buttery smooth aiming and have to use WASD for movement or do you want to keep the analog movement and have a somewhat sub-optimal aim? The guide I wrote, the one that Cerebrum posted up there actually uses Skyrim as an example and this is exactly the way I use to play it. I feel that, unlike Fallout, Skyrim uses mostly melee attacks so the aim is less crucial.

I would also say that getting deep and dirty with all of the options might not be the best choice for an early game to try out. stick with borderlands or similar game that works in an ideal way and then slowly move into other, more advanced features as you go.

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I played through the whole Borderlands 2 story with Siren using SC. And that was the game where I used mouse input style with default settings both for right touchapad and gyro. This game was like one of the best for SC where minor tweaks only needed. Starting from joystick template I have set left grip to E (Use, pick - pretty common stuff) on KB, right grip to A on XYBA from joystick, stick click to push-to-talk(F? or something), outer right to sprint and put stick's responsive curve to aggressive. DONE. Smooth gameplay. I believe I just have changed the sensitivity for look and aim in the actual game itself a little bit. Ah, forgot about double tap on touchpad to mark weapons as favorite so I don't sell it out by chance :P
Skyrim was a pain tho, guys have already described the issues. I was using Skyrim only as testing plaform when new SC features came out back then :)

[skinnyraf]

Originally posted by ugafan:

the best input for aiming is mouse (not mouse-like joystick). be sure to use mouse for any shooter. skyrim is kind of weird because you have to choose keyboard and mouse or gamepad, you can't use a combination of both. if you want to use mouse input with that game, you'll have to diasable gamepad and set the analog stick as directional pad with WASD keys. you'll also need to bind the face buttons as keyboard keys.

For Skyrim and other games which have issues with parallel k/m and controller input, I'd suggest using joystick-as-mouse input. It's slightly worse than true mouse emulation but way more precise for camera control than a joystick.

Skyrim is not the only offender. Shadow of Mordor, while advertised as having a native SC support (in game tips are for SC), works perfectly well with the mouse mode, until you want to rotate artifacts. With artifacts, you get the conflict: if you touch the right touchpad, you get a cursor and the game expects you to click and hold, but as soon as you touch any other button, controls change to SC and the whole thing just breaks. So even in Shadow of Mordor, joystick-as-mouse is the choice for camera movement.

[cammelspit]

Ah, I haven't actually played through SOM with the SC. I had played it through only a few weeks before the SC came out so I didn't have any reason to play it again so soon. One thing I did for another game, Wolfenstein : New Order was that I took the right bumper, the one that brings up the weapon wheel and I made that also shift the right pad to right joystick move so I could select weapons and then the second I let go, back to mouse mode, it worked flawlessly. I am sure something similar could be done with SOM. This is just something you end up having to do for many games because they simply never intended you to be using both a KB/M and a controller input at the same time.

Funny, though, I actually find making new configs for games almost therapeutic so it never bothered me having to tweak and figure out novel approaches to thing like this. :D