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FI! NA! LY! - I was scared shatless for a second because I was at 98.7% and couldnt find the last quest. Luckily I had just overlooked it *wipes sweat off of forehead*
I keep getting the error whil trying to post and edit now, in Dutch, but: Sorry, an error has occured. Something went wrong while saving your changes. Try again later.
And good job with AU! Now let's see you go for that Lily Rank achievement... >.>
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=775851602
But I'm not telling you which Scene it's from, nor when Uzume first appears. ._.
Here we go!
- I do not dislike Neptune, most of the time. But can certainly get annoyed. Of course I love her happy moments with Plutia and I like how she at least brings characters together. And like I said, when she actually contributes, it's such a nice contrast to her usual self.
- Nah, don't care about Peashy. Again, don't dislike her, but get annoyed to much. And I'm not head-over-heels with Boobie-Heart either. Like her weapons too though. Glad Noire and Uni are available earlier.
- School was crap for me too, I can shake your hand there. I like schoolgirls though, can't help it. Maybe because we don't do uniforms here? I dunno. I like MANY things tho (but not nurse for some reason...)
- You'll have the copyright to those names, sure. Razorblades and Chili Peppers? Still painful, but better than a sword that can extend itself and uh... get stuck?
- You don't have to remind me, I hope I will remember myself. I'll play MTM after AU. Then probably all games in order, but I said that before XD (RB2/RB3/VII/Hyperdevotion/FFF) and it's harder to predict because Trillion, Advent Dark Force, Sega Hard Girls, Monster Monpiece and possibly Omega Quintet are coming, too... :S
- I kind of like Uzume's human form, but she's just not anything special to me, if that makes sense? And Orange Heart --> I'm a fan of cutesy, cuddly, girly girls, especially if they aren't kids, so yeah... I'm probably weird. Or I'd feel right at home in Japan, take your pick. Please don't compare her with Famitsu XD She reminds me of mini mouse.
- Black Sister probably won me over because of her voice, more collected way of acting, her taking the lead, her green eyes, my getting used to her ridiculously huge gun and not-so-common twin drills (I'm less of a fan of drills, hers are better than 99% I've seen, so that's at least something XD). Fighting style in main games is nice, too. And AU and VII contributed too, she felt different from RB2, where she was still more like a kid, I think? RB3 hardly had any Uni, so... can't tell, though she seemed a bit more mature already there as well
- Lastation goddesses. Not the nation itself XD I will still keep 100%ing those shares every 1st playthrough tho.
- Do what you gotta do
- Like I said, evil side of the story --> Magic. I liked Copy too
- I'm glad I dropped the mod as well, I made something simpeler, more functional and still enjoyable instead, using some things I had already made
EDIT: about Lily Rank, I use Neptral Tower purely for that. I mean, I have to repeat stages anyway. As soon as a pair has Lily Rank 9, I switch 1 of them out. Once all have 9 with 1 character, I pick a new single character to make pairs with (skipping all the floors everyone has cleared), until all have beaten the tower. Then I think I will repeat stage 5: 1 hit, one kill, 1 stage. Lily Ranks seem to go up per x amount of cleared stages, so that would be most efficient - of course I turned on all cheats, cant be bothered doing all from scratch again without them
Also, about Plutia's voice. It seems that she talks normally at the end of Scene 9. The high pitch that could be heard in the beginning when you "recruit" her, appears to be gone and her voice got softer. I hope it stays that way until the end of the game. Also, sadly, the only outfit of hers that I have so far is the basic "Gamicademi Uniform" with 3 recolors. Cute at first sight, but boring. So, to sum up. For a small and relatively cheap spin-off, I guess that's an OK appearance for Plutia.
And so from what you're telling me about Neptune, I assume you liked her in the eggplant events with Arfoire in Re;Birth 3? :p She wasn't joking around, but she was serious and funny at the same time... But maybe that's what annoys you about her? =_= Well... How about this, then? Does this help improve your opinion about how cool Nep-chan is? :p
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776073139
Well, schoolgirls are a "thing", even a "fetish" maybe. It usually doesn't have to do anything with a person's own school experience and in the end, it's all just about what each person likes. I personally don't have any preferences on schoolgirls, nurses, maids, military girls or whatever. If I like a girl, I'll still like her no matter what she's wearing, but I won't initially care just because she's wearing something specific. :p
And while we're at it, also add "Nuigurumension Plutia" to the list of names of which I own the copyright. :p
Nuigurumi... I just saw how Plutia's nuigurumi attacks in MTM. That thing can throw some hard punches! :p And speaking of punches, I like Uzume's bare-handed fighting style more and more! :D Is this how she fights in the prequel of VIII?
By the way, it's not actually possible to miss Nepgear and Uni's scene, it's part of the story. So unless you accidentally skip through it, you'll easily understand which one I'm talking about. :)
And man, that's a lot of games you're expecting to play. Are you sure now it's the best time for you to be going to university? Why don't you postpone that for a year or two? Or forever? >.>
No, come on! Don't call Famitsu "Minnie Mouse"! XD That's too extreme, all they have in common is big white gloves which, if I remember correctly after all these years, were worn by EVERYBODY in those disney comics. You're being unfair, try to get used to her without the gloves and you'll start to like her! :D
She still fights with a giant shrimp by the way, which is still pretty messed up. :p
And as for shares, well... we are totally different there. I always struggle to keep them at 25/25/25/25 from the beginning. :p
And lastly, that's pretty much what I was planning for the Lily Ranks as well, but I have to ask, why go all the way to the top of the Neptral Tower? Just play the first 10 floors which have less enemies. Aren't they much faster to clear? And as for doing floor 5 over and over... have you ever noticed the Lily Rank not increasing if you keep using only one of the two girls in actual combat? Keep that in mind if you start doing this "1 hit, 1 kill, 1 floor clear" routine. If the Lily Ranks don't increase after 4-5-6 attempts, maybe that's the reason...
Oh well, here's a couple more screenshots from today's session. I hope they aren't spoilers for you.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776073071
"Let's fly together, nuigurumi-san!" (I think she does call it "nuigurumi-san" during one of her attacks, got to listen more carefully tomorrow :p)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776072852
SO DO I!!... @_@
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776077434
Even Uzume sees it...
PS: MTM cards finally started dropping! :D First badge level: Iris Heart. Are they trying to force me to never take it to level 5?! :p
Good to hear they actually tried making the game harder, but I'm curious about controls myself now, as clunky ones make for harder, but also more frustrating gameplay. Hope it's not so bad, you changed your mind I guess. Dodge is your best button in AU. Just pick vert, noire, famitsu or someone else close quarter combat, especially vert and spam either light attack, dodge, la, dodge etc or (with vert and famitsu) heavy attack, dodge, ha, dodge etc
The game at least seems to redeem itself later on in the story, with Plutia, better gameplay etc, so that's good. Her weird voice you heard at first could be buggy sound, sounds problems have plagued these ports. Noires voice and other voices and sounds often sound off in rb2, many reports of sound problems in rb3 and VII launched with them as well, but for the most important part, those were fixed for most people.
I liked Neppy during the eggplant scene, but I also felt bad for her, having to deal with all that. And I felt sorry for ai-chan too of course. And sorry the steam app doesn't allow me to see screenshots and stuff so I'll have to check out all of those tonight, I'm going to an event where I'm not even bringing my laptop, yet it's a school thing.
Here's the part I warned you about so let's skip that first and come back to it at the end.
Sadly, no, Uzume uses a weapon I'm no fan of in VII and I can clearly see why they didn't include it in this game. Fists suit her better at least in normal form and my fav Uzume sp skill is with her fist. Not going to spoil her actual weapon.
Ugh if my channel would be popular enough to earn a living playing games all day, I swear, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I always have too much to play. This is just the top priority part of the list XD
Sorry the first impression I got from famitsu was Minnie Mouse. Maybe too extreme but I can't help it, it just happened and I can't shake it off XD I like cute and a bit weird from time to time, but she's just not doing it for me.
Ahhh shares....
Lily rank rises just fine with only using one girl for me? That's how black sister got rank 9 with everyone yesterday (already had 10 with gear tho), but to avoid too much loading I might want to spam 5-->10 or so anyway
Cards... Still thinking about collecting only the neptunia ones, but I sold all of them XS
Now, the topic. Short and cute Diabor, you can do it!
First off, I absolutely agree the girl herself is the most important thing, I of course will still like someone I like no matter what she wears, but clothes can be a powerful thing (a reason why I don't understand everyone who is so crazy about bikinis, a nice outfit can do so much more in my humble opinion). Now you mention these examples, I'm also not really a fan of military girls and with maids it really, really depends XD let's name some I do like, costumes, outfits, etc: schoolgirls, cheerleaders, police women, Santa girls, angels, catgirls, foxgirls, Lolita fashion (really NEVER see this here, but it might just be what I like best, though I haven't seen any of these here except for schoolgirls in theme parties), vampires, she-devils, jadajadajada, ten years later... And princess(-like) dresses (noirreeee). The list is long lol, so as you can see noire + Cosplay = happy dreaming XD
However I'm someone who knows what he likes to see and that could have its advantages, but not where I live. The Dutch are known to be very phlegmatic people, down to earth, serious and also open minded. Well... They're not really open minded and really judge mental. They deem everything slightly... Not normal or average to be bad or childish. We even have a saying that goes "just be normal, that's crazy enough".
To find someone wearing something different is not always easy, to find someone who wears something different I like or something different they can really pull of, is like winning the lottery. An example are twin tails; a fetish I wouldn't be surprised with if I were the only Dutch guy to have it. We only make 6 year olds and below wear them and so everyone thinks none older than that should/can wear them and I strongly disagree, obviously. But as a result I only see them very few times, but only on foreigners during festivals and on those who can't really pull them off (though I am picky, believe me I don't compare everyone to Noire XD). The only time I saw them not being frowned upon and worn by plenty of girls was on a theme party when many dressed up like Britney Spears, because stereotypes and judgementalness.
The long and short of it probably boils down to the old habit of wanting the things you cannot have? I clearly live in the wrong country, mentality wise and that's also the reason I'm often not seriously interested in girls here aside from their looks - exceptions apply, obviously, I've really loved one girl I never get to see anymore, but for her it was her personality and not her look at all. It's the most important thing, personality, mentality, so if I'm not interested that way, it's a no go of course. I don't really share the Dutch mentality, nor tastes for that matter, even what foods are concerned XD
EDIT: why I continue to the top of the Tower is simple: after all 10 reach it, I get an accessory for that achievement, lily ranks will be boosted a bit 'for free' and I will be able to use the lvl 1 forced accessory and one-hit the boss. I can do that in my other savegame, sure, but this will grant me another accessory, or so you said?
EDIT 2: Just had my first dance lesson. *Remembers what someone said about not ever seeing Noire dance. Cries internally.*
The one I'm 'stuck' with.... well, let me put it this way: she's the total opposite of Noire. Maybe I should leave it at that. She didn't really have a very great personality, at least, that was my first impression so far. The lesseon itself went quite well, for me at least... but I think I'm a little more experienced when it comes to footwork, from Hardcore festivals :P
I also played solo some multiplayer quests. Just like the quests in AU, most of the clear conditions are "Defeat all (or X) enemies" and "Defeat boss", again. Ironically, I think I defeated the final boss of the story there, without finishing the story yet. >.> Anyway, those quests also have non-zombie monsters, so it feels a bit different. It's not the main story all over again, thankfully.
About Plutia's voice, it's not buggy sound. I can tell it's just the way she talked, her voice wasn't as soft and sleepy as we've been used to, she sounded a bit more high-pitched than usual. Maybe because it's been years since the actress made that voice and couldn't get it 100% right. No sound issues whatsoever with the game.
Uh... Is Uzume's weapon in VII that megaphone she's carrying? She sometimes uses it in MTM too. It's ridiculous if that's the ONLY way she attacks in VII. Doesn't she throw any punches at all? Don't spoil her weapon if this isn't it... I guess. :/
As for Megatag's trading cards, there's just 6 of them but I like the fact that most of them have original artwork, which is in fact pretty good. And by the way, just a few minutes ago I got a foil "Blanc Swimsuit" in the second booster I created with gems. ^_^ It's usually too expensive to craft foil badges and I wasn't planning to, but we'll see...
I read the whole second part of your post twice. I can start by saying that I'm sorry it's like that over there, but it's not very nice here either. I also have always felt like I was born in the wrong country, and well, here you go since you wanted to know earlier, I'm Greek. People here aren't serious, AT ALL. Especially young people, all they care about is fashion, movies, spending half their lives in cafeterias and bars drinking weird coffees all day and alcohol all night, and trying to be "leftists and progressive" because "everything else is by default evil and wrong". It's a braindead, alcohol-addicted society which lives by certain "have to" rules (you have to do all the above or you are considered weird, even at my age). I'm starting to believe that all modern societies are similar in one way or another, but I honestly don't want to get into that topic either. Not only because this isn't the place for it, but also because I'm SICK of it, I've been since many years ago. I just want to talk about Neptunia here, one of the very few pretty things left in this life.
So how about those screenshots I posted yesterday? Any comments?
I don't mind harder-to-perform skills, however, this is an action game. They should bump up the difficulty by using better AI and stronger enemy attacks, not by having you take hours to slay things because you can't use skills - some people confuse difficulty with fight length in games, not saying that's the case here, but just want to make a point - I usually suck at blocking too, unless I really put in the effort to learn it properly. Then I can become really good at it, but usually, I find attacking and dodging more fun and so I don't block...
If you can easily solo everything in multiplayer, just like I also read before, that's a bit dissapointing in a way, though in another, it's kinda nice because you're not stuck with locked away content if there's no one to play with. I would still have preferred a couch coop. I dont think you'd be interested in trying some multiplayer together once I get around to MTM?
No buggy sound, got it. I'll pay attention when Plutia finally arrives- I was planning to anyway ;)
Yes, Uzume uses that megaphone. Like I said, not a fan. There's a reason she uses that I can think of, but it's far fetched and lame, so... I would have preferred her fists. And unless I don't remember properly, which is possible, as I did not use Orange Heart as much as I planned to (yet), the only real fist skill she uses is the one I mentioned earlier, but I wont spoil what it is, just that I do like that one a lot.
I have no idea about trading cards.. maybe I need to dive into that sometime. I have done that in the past and Im pretty sure you explained some things as well, but since I always sold anything, not much info decided to stay inside my head.
You read it twice? That's quite the read. Wasn't I clear enough in what I wrote? Anyway, I get you're SICK of things and it doesn't really sound like a pleasant environment to grow up in/live in. So I won't dive into this one. Let's indeed keep talking about fun stuff (Neptunia) instead ;)
Comments were provided ;) I liked the screenshots, they weren't really spoilers.
AU newsflash: I completed lily ranks 1 - 9 for Uni and Nepgear with everyone else. Some others have been raised a bit, too. I'll soon continue with the rest, but I do it bit by bit because otherwise repeating the same stages over and over will become too tedious. I did find I have a hidden achievement left, 'event master' apparently, I somehow haven't seen all events yet. Have you? I'm wondering which one(s) I could be missing, as I've done pretty much everything I can think of in this game.
EDIT: remember this? http://hyperdimensionneptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperdimension_Neptunia_mk2_endings?file=Vert_ending_mk2.png
I don't only wish they would put all characters in all games, in form of DLC or otherwise, but also their outfits... they often feel kinda lazy when it comes to outfits, as we discussed earlier; the games are supposed to be big on customization after all. But I hate it when outfits are shown in CGs and not even obtainable in any game :S For that matter I would love it if we had a modding community for Neptunia. Not to do over-the-top things, but to put the things in the game that we want in there. Characters, outfits, perhaps actual content - just thought about this when I came across the CG in my screenshots folder, just couldnt upload it to steam.
Length isn't really a factor of difficulty in MTM, as (almost?) all missions and much shorter than the ones of AU. You'll see for yourself that you'll clear a good deal of them in under a minute. And usually that helps getting an SSS rank.
We'll see about trying multiplayer together in MTM. If I am interested in trying it out, I'll let you know. I have no idea if there are achievements tied to doing something together with another player. And there's also all the bugs and crashes, many people still report that it's unplayable, there's the difference in levels and the fact that I've already cleared almost half of the basic missions... :/
OK, that's one disappointment about Uzume. But I can't really have an opinion until I do play VII.
And no, it was all right, I meant I read it twice just to make sure I got it all, there were no hidden meanings behind that statement. :p And indeed, I'm sick of it all. When you reach a point where shutting off everyone and everything is actually good for you, you can tell with certainty that this isn't the place you're supposed to be in. Anyway...
Oh, wow. I didn't actually mean adding that kind of comments in each screenshot separately, but thanks for doing so, that was nice. Although it feels kind of lonely too, nobody else seems to care... :p
AU newsflash feedback: You are probably missing events from Dengekiko's and Minnie's Famitsu's news reports. If you rushed through the game with cheats on, you probably didn't get your clothes ripped off at all, so those events that give you the unbreakable clothes didn't pop up in that playthrough. Check it out, their news page tells you which ones you are missing. And if that's all, then you probably won't have to do a third playthrough... :p
Oh, an edit. Yeah, I remember that scene with Vert in one of the endings, but I remember not liking it because instead of having fun, Nepgear felt annoying and just wanted to "get this over with". That didn't sound like fun at all and I wish they'd just make her relax and have fun after all the crap she went through in that story. Another reason why I like the human ending more than any other. I don't think I like the idea of a modding community... Maybe one or two creators would come up with a couple of good ideas, but most would be mediocre crap. I don't think I've ever enjoyed anything fan-made for any game, maybe with the exception of custom maps for the original Doom/Doom 2. :/
It's good if missions in MTM are shorter. I dont mind longer missions if they dont become a bore chore halfway through, but shorter missions can also have a drawback of having many loading screens in between. Especially if theyre very long. Has that been fixed?
Yeah we'll see what you think of Uzume when playing VII. I'm currently listening to the OST of VII and I can tell you that I think it's the best OST out of all the games. I'm curious to find out what you think of it, as we've established our tastes aren't alike :P
Well I care. Better than no one at all ;) Cheer up!
The thing is in my first playthrough I DID check out all the events for Dengekiko and Famitsu, for as far as I know, but I don't have the achievement. I suddenly don't remember if finishing the quests 100% unlocked an event. If that's the case, that's why I'm missing the achievement. I'll find out when I'm done 100% with this new file. Neptral Tower is done, 10-characters-reaching-the-top-wise. I noticed I miss a few medals and indeed newsreports, to for variety I'll just clear some other missions while increasing lily ranks that way. And I noticed I can clear floor 45 - 50 in 3 - 4 minutes, so im going to do that when im done with the rest. Will raise lily ranks 2 - 3 ranks every time (all lily ranks take 3 stages to increase, except for 7 and 8, they're done in 2 stages). I dont think id be jumping for joy if i had to do a third full playthrough XD... :'(
Yes, an edit. surprise! :P
But I know I didnt feel comfortable with Nepgear being forced into crap she didnt want again, but she looks so adorable and I only bring it up as an example - I want their outfits, this on included, in their games. This is just mean to Nepgear AND the player!
I know fan-made stuff isnt always of the best quality - or usually isnt of the best quality - but things done by companies themselves arent either and in a modding community there are always the right people doing the right things. Fixing bugs, adding things you really miss, etc. Of course I take Skyrim for example, though that's not really fair. It's more organized and HUGE. There are plenty amazing modders there that fix 99% of the bugs Bethesda leaves their games with, they fix annoyances, add things we're missing, add whole world maps in variyingquality, but some are REALLY good, new gameplay mechanics and well, basically anything you can think of. And of course there's a lot of mediocre crap. Heck many probably consider my crap to be mediocre, but I have fun with it and only share it with others because I'm not selfish enough to keep it all to myself - as long as I can make at least 1 other person happy with something I make, that makes me happy, too.
And for Neptunia, like I said I'm not looking for over-the-top things - currently I believe there is one 'mod' that makes all girls naked; thats not the kind of thing im looking for either - but people whom would add the characters/outfits/moves we're missing and whom would fix the bugs we're left with... they would be so very much appreciated, at least by me :P
EDIT (sorry?): I just got the Events Master Achievement. I indeed needed to clear the news report things again, as after the story 100% apparently I got an event I really dont remember. Somehow I was under the impression there was no event there, that's how much attention to detail Ive been paying in this rush-through. But oh well, I'm almost done now... I think? Aside from the lily ranks and running through the gauntlet again there isnt that much to do anymore. I think that when Im done I'll finish all 99 quests and the DLC just to really make it 100%, then I'm done with everything AU has to offer.
No loading issues have been fixed (yet?). Missions are a lot shorter and like I said before, in most (if not all) of them, all the enemies spawn in a bunch right in front of you and if not underleveled, you can clear some missions in 10-20 seconds. But anyway, I assume it won't be long before you see for yourself. I think I've already said too much. :p
You're worrying me about VII's soundtrack... >.>
And so... did you check AU to see which events you were missing?
I agree, I would also like more outfits in the games, I've been wanting more ever since I realized that all Plutia had in Re;Birth 3 were recolors of her basic clothes and a couple of swimsuits. -_- But as for Nepgear, that's not exactly what I meant. I didn't want her to get away from Vert in that ending, instead I wanted the developers to make her enjoy Vert's attention and her desire to dress her up in various costumes. If Nepgear actually enjoyed it, not only it would be nice to see her having fun, but that would also make Chika ten times more jealous. :p
OK, I suppose I don't have a valid opinion on fan-made stuff as I rarely download any. And I'm sure it won't be hard for certain people to make high-quality "extras" for Neptunia games. And... since I don't know what else to add here, I'll just ask this - won't that be unfair for all those who play HDN games on PS4/PS Vita? :p
One example is white sis rom tho as she can't even jump after a dash.
I'll indeed find out soon enough and yeah you've said quite some things but not too big spoilers, but yeah maybe refraining from saying more would be wise.
Don't be afraid it's awesome XD
Like I think I said I got the achievement so I'm pretty sure that after 100%ing the story there's an event I must've missed in my first savegame.
Yeah I now know what you mean, it would be nice and I thought a similar thing when I first saw it, between all the 'aww she looks so adorable''s that ran through my head. But I didn't like she didn't like it and I thought she would probably have enjoyed doing something else more. Though if she was made to like this I would definitely have no objections. It's clear though they're going to stick with vert wants A and nepgear wants B, but allows A... Hesitantly. Vert wil always put her in such situations. What a big sister she is... And chika? More jealous? How exactly would that be possible?
Unfair? Depends on your own view on this. Like for Skyrim, it was made for console, but modding makes it better for PC. I borrowed it from a friend for xbox at first, cleared the main quest line, returned it, then bought the legendary edition that included all DLC for xbox, worth 50 euros at the time. I played with DLC on a new save, got annoyed by the bugs that couldn't be fixed and kept reading about the PC version, mods, a command line to fix things and went ahead and bought the same legendary edition for PC and learned how to mod the game and make my own mods. Do I regret buying it twice? Not one bit. The mods have made me spend so much time that I practically earned money. I'm not exaggerating if I say I've played/modded/tested/watched instruction and mod review videos etc for 3000+ hours total. Do I consider it unfair that the console isn't supported what mods are concerned? Well the remaster will change that for xbox, but no, I don't think it's very unfair. But I may be biased, as if I wouldn't have a laptop decent enough to run modded skyrim, I may have thought it to be unfair after all.
But neptunia is much easier to run on your PC, especially if unofficial (but stable and good) patches come out in the form of mods, like for skyrim. They're amazing and must haves. And since neptunia is so easy to run and you don't need a super special machine for it in general, it's probably even less unfair than for skyrim.
I want it on vita too to play it on the go, but we can't have everything, can we?
Speaking of everything, I'm still waiting for producing perfection and the original trilogy, especially HDN (1), as I never got to play those and stay away from YouTube vids because I'm hoping to experience it myself one day
And about that, I just cleared MTM's story and I didn't unlock the "Event Maestro" achievement at all, so that most certainly requires a second playthrough. But I wonder what the requirements are, I noticed there's a mention of watching "alternate cuts" somehow... =_=
And since I'm done with the story, here's a few final points about the game:
- Plutia's participation was minimal and disappointing. Of course almost everyone besides Blanc and Neptune had few lines of dialogue, but Plutia's appearance was a joke. -_- And I didn't like how they made her act in her last scene. I'm glad this isn't exactly "official".
- So playing as Plutia wasn't fun at all. Way too clunky and ssllllooooooowwwww.... :\ Strong and tough, true, just no fun. On the other hand, it's just great to play as Iris Heart.
- Peashy (who practically had no lines outside her introductory scene) is insanely overpowered, even without transforming. At level 15 she already felt as strong as level 43 Iris Heart. I cleared a level 30-33 story mission with her like a breeze. Of course her HP and DEF are low in the beginning, but she's so fast and so strong that it hardly matters. @___@; Seriously, if she was the first one to join thet party, it would destroy the game's balance.
- Looks like the only Lily-related achievement this time is simply maxing out one pair, which happens after 10 battles. I'm glad that they realized what insane grinding AU requires for that achievement. >_>
- Lastly, you can tell by what they are saying between scenes (and in the ending) that the game is really trying to appeal to young ones, who are actually in school. Can't say I felt connected to the story at any point, in any way.
I suppose that's the comedy factory of the Vert/gear pairing, but it won't hurt them to actually make Nepgear enjoy something with Vert, eventually, even if she's too hesitant at first. And if Chika gets more jealous, I can see her grabbing Neptune by the shoulder, dying her hair blonde and dressing her up like Vert or something (based on that scene with Gear-chan's cosplay).
And again, you're looking too deep into things. :p "Unfair" was just a random word, mainly because I didn't know what else to say about that matter. Like I mentioned before, I never cared for user-made content of any game outside maps for the original Doom, so I don't know what else to contribute to the discussion... Oh and about the nude patches you mentioned before, I've personally enjoyed nude patches in other games (hell, I even played Silent Hill 3 with a nude patch, I just love Heather), but Neptunia's different, that's not the reason I got into the HDN franchise, so I don't want them either. But for most other games, sure, bring them on. :p
I don't think I'll ever care for the original HDNs. For one, I'm satisfied with the Re;Births and the anime, and for another, I read that there's an ending in the original Neptunia 1 that's almost as depressing as Conquest (although luckily no friends murder each other there).
But... But... BUT THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE NO MISSABLES! So yeah... I hope you find a different solution, like somehow finding alternate cuts. Don't tell me how yet unless I ask, but I want at least a part of the game to still be unknown to me XD
Plutia is always slow, unless you rush with her in rb3. I think it kind of makes sense? And I am looking forward to using iris more than Plutia anyway. I don't think Plutia herself fits very well in an action game, but I hate she was taken out in the main games... Turn-based... You can take your time... Be slowwww... Be Plutia....
Happy to hear this about lily ranks though! I wouldn't even have minded if 1 character needed to be maxed with everyone else, but everyone with everyone is something I haven't tried since rebirth 1 with lvl 5 harem chips. I was lead to believe, either by the game itself or a forum post, that lily ranks would unlock events, so I did it there without result and was disappointed by the result to say the least. I also hoped for more coupling skills as lily improved but obviously that didn't happen either.
I liked in the anime that opening scene somewhere with vert and nepgear, i would indeed like it if they would spend time together without nepgear feeling stressed or awkward. If I were vert I would go for our approach: bribe her with tech! And poor vert deserves an imouto...
Ah well looking to deep into things is kinda my thing but I guess you know by now. Also the reason why I compiled a list of all thing in rb1 that didn't make sense, were incomplete or seemed plain wrong in the story. I can't take plot holes and the like very well :P
I would be a hypocrite if I said my skyrim characters are never nude, but exactly, neptunia is different. Kinda strange that goes for both of us while the games are sometimes focused (a bit too much??) on fan service. And we both use hard outfits in AU too XD
I still want to play the originals, especially HDN 1 because I want to know what the 'bad gameplay' fuss is about and I want to know how the story differs, as I heard HDN1 has better story than RB1 but RB1 has better gameplay. Since I was annoyed by things like plot holes in RB1 I REALLY want to know about HDN1... Without reading about it or watching a YouTube video. I'm not the only one, but I can understand those whom don't want it. I still want it myself tho XD
Well... then they're probably not "missable". You can re-play all the cuts for better scores and item drops, so I'm guessing you can unlock the alternate cuts this way. I'll keep guessing until I'm done with the other achievements, then I'll look at a guide. Don't worry, I won't say anything about this or anything else MTM-related unless you ask. :p
And sorry if I have already spoiled too much of the game... ;( I was just going for a "heads up" on a few matters... and nagging about Plutia, of course.
I know Plutia's slow. That's part of her charm. But like you said, she doesn't fit in such an action game at all. I thought they could make it work -and maybe it does for other players- but for me it feels too much of a chore. No matter how much I like her, I can't really enjoy playing as her in MTM. Buuuuuuuut in the maiiiiiiiiiin tiiiiiiiiiiiiiitleeeees.... she's juuuuuuuuuuuuuust peeeeerfeeeeeeeccctttt.....
I wonder how much longer these posts would look if we typed everything Plutia-style.
* Done with mopping the living room *
Same here, I was planning to max Plutia's lily rank with everybody at first, but the achievement popped up as soon as she reached level 10 with Neptune. Early compensation for all the grinding I'm going to do in AU.... Some day... Maybe... @_@
Yeah, I liked that scene in the anime too. And Neptune's entrance right after was equally good. The more I listen to her, the more I believe there couldn't possibly be a better voice actress for Nep. Not that the others are lacking, they're all great, but Nep's voice actress is simply unique.
Well, OK, the reason I use hard outfits in AU is because the animations of the clothes tearing became annoying after the first 10 or so times. :p But yeah, HDN never gave me that kind of vibe. I would only enjoy nudity from Rei and Arfoire, but we know they aren't ever going to become playable... ;_________;
When you talk about plot holes in Re;Birth 1, do you count what we talked about earlier, abouw how Planeptune is so technologically advanced even though Nepgear wasn't born yet, while Neptune was born carefree and lazy to the bone? :p