Kats Korner: what do I need to do to unlock, from the Movie Katz, the final scene after Epiloge 2??

[BlackRaider2012]

as the title asks...

I finished the game in chaos mode and unlocked everything, except two things. I can't find a way to unlock the final movie scene from the Movie Katz character. And for lack of imagination the norman skills (I found all 50 normans, but lost the patiance to uncover the other ones, all 65 (115-50) other possible combinations).

[Myst]

Bad end.

[BlackRaider2012]

ah lol so all I need to do is to create bad reputation to myself, by making bad choices on critical dialogs and let others die or killing them instead of saving them. hm ok, but I feel kinda bad doing that :(

[EasilyAmus3d]

No no it's nothing that complicated. You know how during the game there's some areas you can't use your seraphs in or run in because of all the malevolance there? There's one area (can't remember which one sorry) where you can fight Heldalf like that around the time you're doing the Shepard trials. If you beat him there with just Sorey and Rose you get the bad end and the last movie.

[BlackRaider2012]

I was searching on the net about it, moments ago. thats true.

I found it on youtube, I think I know where it is, but still I need to start a new game to make the bad ending :( :p

[Broso]

You can actually also get this by going to Aifread's Hunting Grounds before going to Glaivend Basin first.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Virsalus:

You can actually also get this by going to Aifread's Hunting Grounds before going to Glaivend Basin first.

What do you mean? Do you still have to fight him in this case or do you get locked into the bad ending from simply going there? I have a tendency to try to explore areas I shouldn't be in first... or go off track.

[Simon]

You can get the bad ending by going to places where Heldalf is before getting Zaveid, and beat him optionally. Or just follow the plot and reach the Aifread's Hunting Ground where you will fight Heldalf the first time officially. You have to beat him to get the bad ending

[patpatyos]

You need beat Heldalf at any point before fight with Zaveid infront of pendrago /encounter with symonne .

1.When Dezel is in party

2. Find heldalf in a domain.

-Heldalf would be in Biroclef cliff before the story wants you to go there , like right after meeting sergei at lastonbell. ( I would not recommend fighthing here though since it would be even harder with the Slow down you get from the domain, unless you are overpowered in New game plus ) Easier to wait till after a trial.

-During all searching for the Pope you could find heldalf at camelot bridge or Aifread's Hunting Ground.

-When you cleared the fire trial , you may encounter heldalf by revisiting glaiveland basin

-Easiest way people recommend is to do the Earth Trial then you may encounter heldalf at Aifread's Hunting Ground on later visit .

-Complete all 4 Trials and head straight to Aifread's Hunting Ground that will be the last chance to beat heldalf for bad end.

(Once you enter Pendrago when meeting Zaveid at the entrance its too late)

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Simon:

You can get the bad ending by going to places where Heldalf is before getting Zaveid, and beat him optionally. Or just follow the plot and reach the Aifread's Hunting Ground where you will fight Heldalf the first time officially. You have to beat him to get the bad ending

Ah, gotcha. I have seen him in a few places but every fight with him doesn't go over well. He keeps opening with a long range attack that has spikes come out of the ground and it wipes one or both characters instantly. Can't move fast enough to beat him. :P Wonder what kind of setup and stats you would need to beat him legit, early. Hmm... only tried it on Intense tho now I gotta go find him for curiosities sake on a lower difficulty.