x3 Skills

[Lawlben]

Anyone actually have any equipment with a x3 skill ? (screenshots for proof pls)

Just finished new game + on chaos. Killed Heldalf and starting Hexen Island and haven't seen a single x3 item.

As for x2 skills, excluding blessed gear, I have 7 in my inventory right now and I fused away maybe 2 or 3, so lets say a grand total of 10 acquired.

[Uncle Kartwheel]

I'm starting to think that it might not even drop anything that has something like +4% Defense on "slot" 3. Though I know you can manually set the Normin on any gear. It may only be possible to do 3-4x+ stacks using Normin. (That's the feeling I get, unsure if this is atually true or not.) However, I've only seen +Defense or +attack types on the first 2 slots and SC/HP bonuses on slots 3 and 4, followed by paralysis and other things. Have you see +4% Defense on anything besides 1 and 2?

[Lawlben]

I duno never really looked for it (i considered all the +4% stat normins weak)

i usually looked for;
+ fire damage
+ water damage
+ dragon capability
and all the last column.

[Uncle Kartwheel]

Originally posted by Lawlben:

I duno never really looked for it (i considered all the +4% stat normins weak)

Alright then. I just don't seem to see them, on certain equips it seems static to be on 3 or 4, where as others are 1,2. I've yet to see any stat on 1 and 4. Not that I've noticed through my first playthrough anyway.

[Scarlet Crusade]

I believe this has the answers that you seek... x3 gear is exceedingly rare, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/740217-tales-of-zestiria/faqs/71495

[Terfio]

Well that's kinda odd. The formulas ok, but the amount of battles requirement is kinda stupid :(

[Uncle Kartwheel]

Originally posted by Scarlet Crusade:

I believe this has the answers that you seek... x3 gear is exceedingly rare, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/740217-tales-of-zestiria/faqs/71495

Thanks for this. It was my goal to ng+ through all the game modes respectively (Except for below Normal), but after seeing this, I may just start a new game and do Chaos mode from the start. Who knows, but offering up items seems to help the percentage, which means difficulty may not be the end all be all. Either way, I seem to handle Moderate, Hard, and etc just fine, provided I have decent equips and don't get locked into a battle where the monster heals 300+ HP and there is no way to stop it, so your damage output has to be higher than 300 per 5-8 hits.

[Lawlben]

Originally posted by Scarlet Crusade:

I believe this has the answers that you seek... x3 gear is exceedingly rare, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/740217-tales-of-zestiria/faqs/71495

I've read that before

Now assuming my maths and my understanding of how this works isn't wrong I got the following unnamed gear by fusing my entire inventory;

sword +34
dagger+6
staff+22
paper+32
umbrella+18
pendulum+15
earings+39
hairband(mikleo)+15
tiara+19
hairband(edna)+14
hat+20
male chest+50
female chest+44
ring1+19
ring2+14
boots1+99
boots2+25
boots3+11

all of the items had BONUS skills as their first slot so that should mean they are giving "B-Points".

Now the math part comes in

Chance of becoming double (%) = 1 + sqrt(A-Pointsx100 + B-Points)

which can be simplified to:

Chance of becoming double (%) = 1 + sqrt( 0 + B-Points)

At the end of it all I got 106.6%. Doesn't that mean all skills should now be x2 ?

with a 6.6% chance to be x3

In testing though the chance of x2 had definitely increased, I was seeing a lot more x2 and some items even had multiple slots with x2 but it was not the expected result.

[Terfio]

1st its about BLESSED items.
2nd assuming it would be blessed items :
if i add all your items together i come to 514. Double skills rate would then be 1+ sqrt(514) %= 1+22.67 %= 23.67 %
Triple would then be 1.42%

[Lawlben]

Originally posted by Terfio:

1st its about BLESSED items.
2nd assuming it would be blessed items :
if i add all your items together i come to 514. Double skills rate would then be 1+ sqrt(514) %= 1+22.67 %= 23.67 %
Triple would then be 1.42%

for an item to be unnamed it has to be +10 and blessed, all of the items I listed were "Unnamed XXX"

and now I see where I goofed, i did them all individually instead of all together, makes sense now.

thx.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Using your equipment you just listed the formula would come out as:

1 + sqrt(0 * 100 + 514) = 1 + sqrt(514) = 23.67%

I don't even see how you would ever get to 106.6%. Maximum B-Points would be 32.62%.

At 100 A-Points and 1000 B-Points (the respective maximums), that would be:

1 + sqrt(100 * 100 + 1000) = 1 + sqrt(11000) = 105.88%

And that would only be for the one skill that had 100 A-Points.

[Forte]

I've gotten one so far playing on intense.

Sorry, I would screen shot but already fused it to get rid of one of them.

[Scarlet Crusade]

Originally posted by Scarlet Crusade:

Using your equipment you just listed the formula would come out as:

1 + sqrt(0 * 100 + 514) = 1 + sqrt(514) = 23.67%

I don't even see how you would ever get to 106.6%. Maximum B-Points would be 32.62%.

At 100 A-Points and 1000 B-Points (the respective maximums), that would be:

1 + sqrt(100 * 100 + 1000) = 1 + sqrt(11000) = 105.88%

And that would only be for the one skill that had 100 A-Points.

Oh and those are for double, so the highest chance ever for a triple would only be 6.62%. Ouch.

[Lawlben]

@scarlet

yea i goofed hard on the math LOL

Pretty sure I can hit the max 1000 b points fairy easy, couple hours of grinding if drop rate stays good.

Not too worried about the A points tbh, if you are fusing to +10 chances are you will get the skills you're looking for anyways.

[Lawlben]

praise the lord we found 1 on a vendor LOL

http://imgur.com/nm6y2WH

[Scarlet Crusade]

Awesome! I guess that proves the if it can drop, it can be sold theory.