I see a lot of costume DLC. What's the point?

[id]

There is really someone that buy that?

I think that should be inside the game and not as an overpriced DLC.

PS. as this topic scalated quickly, please reread your comment before post it to make sure your argument don't have some bizarre flaw as it's turning to be a common practice here. Besides I noticed this is a delicate ground so have fun without making enemies :D

PS2. after some time reading comments, I remembered that DLC is a shame...

[id]

Origineel geplaatst door dannyj54147:

DLC has just become the norm for most games now really. Look at GTV, you can buy ingame money dlc ^^

When I was a kid we called that gameshark :p

[Stranger]

There are a few customes apart from the alt colors but there are some additional pieces which you can change placement, color, size with a great deal of control to make it your own.

[Ras187]

If there was a dlc to let me play looking like Cloud from FF7 id buy it

[id]

Origineel geplaatst door Rasm187:

If there was a dlc to let me play looking like Cloud from FF7 id buy it

Now that's a thing that don't leave much choice! haha!

[Awaken]

Origineel geplaatst door Kite:

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Its not about the BGM being free, its about them selling it as seperate DLC. You got it all twisted, look people get soundtracks cause they loved the BGM/support the company. Not because there was no BGM in the game. You bought the costumes because they weren't in the game.

The company shouldn't try to rip you the consumer off, but they do, and you support that - you support them screwing you. The majority of the people in the West/Europe are just like you, which is why companies are selling this proposterous DLC crap and getting away with it. If you'd stop being such a pushover, maybe they would have reconsidered their tactics, and instead of releasing some cosmetic's as "DLC" they would have instead release you know a real expansion to the game. Something with content, AND the cosmetic "DLC" that you love so much would be in the game already.

I'm not being ripped off, I just wanted the extra outfits, its optional. You still don't seem to get it, you have no idea what it takes to make a game and extra content for the game. Tales games just have optional clothing dlc, nothing that changes the game. But still they spent extra time to create the outfits, so whats so wrong charging a small fee for them. Nothing at all, if you don't like it you do not have to buy them. Its as simple as that. As for the anime dlc coming, well you should know why they have to sell those at a higher price. Idk why your so against dlc, again it adds nothing to the story.

Those outfits should have been in the game already, so how are you not being ripped off? You sound confused, listen you're paying extra dough for something that you should have gotten for free with the game - when you bought it. These outfits aren't "extra content", its just stuff Bamco cut out from the game, so they could make a EXTRA buck out of you. They did the same thing with the Alisha DLC, you wouldn't know though cause I doubt you followed the Japanese release. That's right it was planned to be a paid $, till the ♥♥♥ people raged. Look up Tales of Zestiria on the Japanese Amazon under reviews, use google translator if you must. You'll see what I am talking about, they planned on selling stuff that was suppose to be given to us WITH the game. You've no idea what you are talking about cause you prolly started gaming like 2 years ago, so to you this kind of practice is very normal.

[Village Idiot]

The only costumes that should be DLCs are costumes from different anime/games, like the Evangelion ones (Zestiria), Star Driver (Xillia) and Hatsune Miku (Graces F).

Makes sense because they had to pay for the license for these.

[Kite]

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Origineel geplaatst door Kite:

I'm not being ripped off, I just wanted the extra outfits, its optional. You still don't seem to get it, you have no idea what it takes to make a game and extra content for the game. Tales games just have optional clothing dlc, nothing that changes the game. But still they spent extra time to create the outfits, so whats so wrong charging a small fee for them. Nothing at all, if you don't like it you do not have to buy them. Its as simple as that. As for the anime dlc coming, well you should know why they have to sell those at a higher price. Idk why your so against dlc, again it adds nothing to the story.

Those outfits should have been in the game already, so how are you not being ripped off? You sound confused, listen you're paying extra dough for something that you should have gotten for free with the game - when you bought it. These outfits aren't "extra content", its just stuff Bamco cut out from the game, so they could make a EXTRA buck out of you. They did the same thing with the Alisha DLC, you wouldn't know though cause I doubt you followed the Japanese release. That's right it was planned to be a paid $, till the ♥♥♥ people raged. Look up Tales of Zestiria on the Japanese Amazon under reviews, use google translator if you must. You'll see what I am talking about, they planned on selling stuff that was suppose to be given to us WITH the game. You've no idea what you are talking about cause you prolly started gaming like 2 years ago, so to you this kind of practice is very normal.

Yeah I knew about that, the Alisha stuff I could care less about as it adds nothing to the main characters story. Every other game does the same thing, except their dlc is overpriced and they force you to buy it cause it locks older(free) content that came with the game. Again who cares the game has plenty of cosmetics in it, and everyone sells cosmetics are a normal rate these days. I understand that you can't afford all the dlc out there so you get mad about it. The fact is that its a business, its not a charity. Games have been priced at 50-60$ for a while now, the only reason it stays there is because of dlc.

Even back in the day games had paid dlc, so I don't really see your point. I have been gaiming since 95, so I have played more games and seen how they work. Heck I have even made some myself and released dlc for them. The only difference is my dlc packs are free of charge, but thats not going to happen these days with any game on steam. So you should just deal with it, dlc is the new standard.

[zshadez]

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Those outfits should have been in the game already...

They've been making additional costumes as DLC for many, many years. Those costumes were never intended to be in the game from the start, and were made as DLC. They add nothing to the game, and are an entirely pointless thing you can get if you really want to. This is idiotic. I can understand being annoyed that part of a story in a game is cut off and they want you to pay extra to finish the story of what should have been one game... but a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ costume? Who cares? They add literally nothing to the game and if you just love alternate costumes you can get several for free that really were intended to be part of the main game.

So far we have a school costume, which doesn't even make sense for the game as none of the characters are in school. You're saying they cut that out from being intended content? My ass. Next we have the Seaside Resort kits. Bathing suits. This one seems to be the biggest complaint, because sad guys who live in someone's basement are being asked to *pay* to beat off more easily to the game. Outrageous. Clearly Namco is right up there with Hitler for that one.

[PhD in Pancakes]

Tales of Vesperia was the last Tales that really had lots of in-game costumes to unlock. After that they started being sold seperately, and DLC costume packs are so successful in Japan that they've become the norm for Tales since then. Western fans may find the nickel and diming offensive, but it's actually very normal in Japan. Seeing as Tales games are mostly directed at the Japanese fanbase, they're probably not going to change things for Western releases. Regardless of morality of a DLC like this, if it doesn't offend the Japanese fanbase, then don't expect a boycott or petition from Western fans to change anything. It's a different world over in Japan.

[Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr]

Origineel geplaatst door zshadez:

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Those outfits should have been in the game already...

They've been making additional costumes as DLC for many, many years. Those costumes were never intended to be in the game from the start, and were made as DLC. They add nothing to the game, and are an entirely pointless thing you can get if you really want to. This is idiotic. I can understand being annoyed that part of a story in a game is cut off and they want you to pay extra to finish the story of what should have been one game... but a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ costume? Who cares? They add literally nothing to the game and if you just love alternate costumes you can get several for free that really were intended to be part of the main game.

So far we have a school costume, which doesn't even make sense for the game as none of the characters are in school. You're saying they cut that out from being intended content? My ass. Next we have the Seaside Resort kits. Bathing suits. This one seems to be the biggest complaint, because sad guys who live in someone's basement are being asked to *pay* to beat off more easily to the game. Outrageous. Clearly Namco is right up there with Hitler for that one.

Just flip the chessboard then. If the costumes are so inconsequential, then why charge money for them in the first place? The in game costumes blow anyway. Whoops, just read the second paragraph. Guess there's no point in talking to you, huh?

[Awaken]

Origineel geplaatst door Kite:

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Those outfits should have been in the game already, so how are you not being ripped off? You sound confused, listen you're paying extra dough for something that you should have gotten for free with the game - when you bought it. These outfits aren't "extra content", its just stuff Bamco cut out from the game, so they could make a EXTRA buck out of you. They did the same thing with the Alisha DLC, you wouldn't know though cause I doubt you followed the Japanese release. That's right it was planned to be a paid $, till the ♥♥♥ people raged. Look up Tales of Zestiria on the Japanese Amazon under reviews, use google translator if you must. You'll see what I am talking about, they planned on selling stuff that was suppose to be given to us WITH the game. You've no idea what you are talking about cause you prolly started gaming like 2 years ago, so to you this kind of practice is very normal.

Yeah I knew about that, the Alisha stuff I could care less about as it adds nothing to the main characters story. Every other game does the same thing, except their dlc is overpriced and they force you to buy it cause it locks older(free) content that came with the game. Again who cares the game has plenty of cosmetics in it, and everyone sells cosmetics are a normal rate these days. I understand that you can't afford all the dlc out there so you get mad about it. The fact is that its a business, its not a charity. Games have been priced at 50-60$ for a while now, the only reason it stays there is because of dlc.

Even back in the day games had paid dlc, so I don't really see your point. I have been gaiming since 95, so I have played more games and seen how they work. Heck I have even made some myself and released dlc for them. The only difference is my dlc packs are free of charge, but thats not going to happen these days with any game on steam. So you should just deal with it, dlc is the new standard.

DLC effects me because before they would have just added the extra costumes in game with a side mission. However now It's "cooler" to release incomplete games and release some DLC a week, and in some cases, the same day and suckers like you will buy it.

If someone is willing to buy this DLC what's to stop Bamco from doing it again and only worse? Oh wait, that's called Tales of Xilla where they only have 5 costumes in-game and the rest are all DLC and I can only imagine the next Tales game is only going to be worse because people are willing to buy it and they can get away with it. Bamco is the best at milking idiots. Of course you don't see my point, Zestiria is rated T. So its understandable it'll be mostly played by 14 year olds who can't process information and use logic. I'm not giving you crap, its just that the 14 year old mind cannot comprehend why rip off DLC is a negative thing, because you are growing up in a generation of DLC. On the other hand, adults remember when we used to get all this stuff for free. That's where the conflict arises from.

[THE BICEP]

u can literally download a trainer and youll get all costumes

[暁のヨナ]

Origineel geplaatst door id:

I think that's not much fair... if they actually develop more than what is being released to put as day one DLC, then those DLC should be included in the game. DLC are just a alternative name for expansions which is something that enhance the game after the release. This is the same as what happened to capcom and their on disc DLC recently.

The same is valid for a pseudo DLC that you get for free if you buy the game on the first month (the epilogue of the game) and after that you will have to pay to have it. This kind of things keeps degrading the image of the series and only act as bad propaganda because it's too greedy.

This problem is concerning because I, among a large number of steam consumers, don't buy before release date regardless the bonus they offer because there is no way to know what you will get. After release I normally go take a look at how things are for the game and when I see this type of situation the game start to go down in my list of priorities and probably will be forgoten until a 75% sale.

Origineel geplaatst door An Inτellecτuαl Rαpisτ:

Just flip the chessboard then. If the costumes are so inconsequential, then why charge money for them in the first place? The in game costumes blow anyway. Whoops, just read the second paragraph. Guess there's no point in talking to you, huh?

If you want devs to forgo day1 DLC, prepare for a good 30-40% price hike in retail. Game design is getting more and more expensive as games get more complicated, and prices haven't changed all that much. The DLC is how devs help offset that cost.

[Kite]

Origineel geplaatst door Awaken:

Origineel geplaatst door Kite:

Yeah I knew about that, the Alisha stuff I could care less about as it adds nothing to the main characters story. Every other game does the same thing, except their dlc is overpriced and they force you to buy it cause it locks older(free) content that came with the game. Again who cares the game has plenty of cosmetics in it, and everyone sells cosmetics are a normal rate these days. I understand that you can't afford all the dlc out there so you get mad about it. The fact is that its a business, its not a charity. Games have been priced at 50-60$ for a while now, the only reason it stays there is because of dlc.

Even back in the day games had paid dlc, so I don't really see your point. I have been gaiming since 95, so I have played more games and seen how they work. Heck I have even made some myself and released dlc for them. The only difference is my dlc packs are free of charge, but thats not going to happen these days with any game on steam. So you should just deal with it, dlc is the new standard.

DLC effects me because before they would have just added the extra costumes in game with a side mission. However now It's "cooler" to release incomplete games and release some DLC a week, and in some cases, the same day and suckers like you will buy it.

If someone is willing to buy this DLC what's to stop Bamco from doing it again and only worse? Oh wait, that's called Tales of Xilla where they only have 5 costumes in-game and the rest are all DLC and I can only imagine the next Tales game is only going to be worse because people are willing to buy it and they can get away with it. Bamco is the best at milking idiots. Of course you don't see my point, Zestiria is rated T. So its understandable it'll be mostly played by 14 year olds who can't process information and use logic. I'm not giving you crap, its just that the 14 year old mind cannot comprehend why rip off DLC is a negative thing, because you are growing up in a generation of DLC. On the other hand, adults remember when we used to get all this stuff for free. That's where the conflict arises from.

I been gaming as long as you have been around, there was dlc way back in the day. You were just to young to remember it. Again the dlc was never meant to be in the game, so its not an incomplete game. They made the costumes to sell, they never intended for it to be in the base game. Tales of Xillia was worse as each costume was 3$ as this one has 8 for 7$. Thats a good deal for extra content, you just don't understand how the gaming industry works. I understand your young, and have low funds, but thats no reason to hate on a business for wanting to make money to develop more games in the future.

Before you talk like you know everything you should do some research on what goes in to a game, how much it cost, and how to run a business. DLC has been around for a long time, and its not going anywhere and never will. Even if people stop buying it, the only thing that will change is games base price will go up, and we would not get extra content. So think about that before you post nonsense about. I'm 25 btw and I know much more about gaming and business pratice than some poor child who can't afford optional clothing for a game :P

[Zunnoab #931]

Origineel geplaatst door An Inτellecτuαl Rαpisτ:

Origineel geplaatst door zshadez:

They've been making additional costumes as DLC for many, many years. Those costumes were never intended to be in the game from the start, and were made as DLC. They add nothing to the game, and are an entirely pointless thing you can get if you really want to. This is idiotic. I can understand being annoyed that part of a story in a game is cut off and they want you to pay extra to finish the story of what should have been one game... but a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ costume? Who cares? They add literally nothing to the game and if you just love alternate costumes you can get several for free that really were intended to be part of the main game.

So far we have a school costume, which doesn't even make sense for the game as none of the characters are in school. You're saying they cut that out from being intended content? My ass. Next we have the Seaside Resort kits. Bathing suits. This one seems to be the biggest complaint, because sad guys who live in someone's basement are being asked to *pay* to beat off more easily to the game. Outrageous. Clearly Namco is right up there with Hitler for that one.

Just flip the chessboard then. If the costumes are so inconsequential, then why charge money for them in the first place? The in game costumes blow anyway. Whoops, just read the second paragraph. Guess there's no point in talking to you, huh?

This one's easy. They are little trinkets for people that would like to support the game series. Those that don't want them that badly can just skip them.