Tales of Zestiria

Tales of Zestiria

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Xenogear 2015 年 10 月 16 日 上午 10:41
IGN bashed the game hard like always with tales games.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review

Edit: 7.8 is great,Review is Bashy.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/15/tales-of-xillia-2-review

Xillia 2 got an 8 even higher than zestiria and that game is a total rebuild of the old one.That site doesnt make any sense anymore.
最后由 Xenogear 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 8:10
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Sabin 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:00 
People nowadays go probably go by this review scale http://www.thegamecritique.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Review-Scale.png
最后由 Sabin 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:37
Xenogear 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:17 
引用自 Gyson
引用自 XeNoGeaR
They liked it less but its a better review :P

Game Informer:

The Tales franchise has seen its ups and downs through the years, but Tales of Zestiria is the most disappointing entry in the long-running series since 2006's Tales of Legendia. Zestiria has flickers of greatness, such as a cool battle system and more mature story, but they're wasted on frustrating, inexcusable gameplay mechanics. To put it bluntly, this entry feels dated. It makes you suffer through backtracking, longwinded battles, and boring dialogue.

...

Tales of Zestiria feels like a game from another time in many ways, and not in the charming type of way. It forces you through some the most boring and outdated elements from RPGs of yesteryear. If the series wants to stay relevant it needs to put forth a better effort than Zestiria.


IGN:

I think of the Tales series as RPG comfort food. It reliably delivers cheerful characters, a story anchored in friendship, and a unique brawler-tinged spin on RPG combat. Tales of Zestiria is no exception, but the big shift to an open world and some flashy new combat moves makes it pleasantly different from its predecessors.

...

Tales of Zestiria doesn’t deviate too far from its competent predecessors, but it’s not a carbon copy, either. It may have linear dungeons and a less-than-stellar story, but it’s open-world exploration, enjoyable customization, and flashy new Armitization feature are enough for it to stand on its own.


You have some serious IGN hate issues, to the point of not even being able to make a rationale comparison.

If you saw the :P behind on the end it was kind of a troll,I guess you Took it wrong.They both terrible.I dont hate IGN tbh so much,I just hate some reviewers over there.Like that guy from vesperia.He was a great reviewer.
Gyson 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:24 
引用自 XeNoGeaR
If you saw the :P behind on the end it was kind of a troll,I guess you Took it wrong.They both terrible.I dont hate IGN tbh so much,I just hate some reviewers over there.Like that guy from vesperia.He was a great reviewer.

I honestly thought the reviewer in the Vesperia video sounded less enthusiastic (although it did a better job at covering a variety of points, where as the Zesteria review was less in depth). The girl on the Zesteria review sounds like she actually enjoyed playing the game (except for the parts she disliked obviously disappointed her).
Xenogear 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:27 
Hmm,i guess we just both have differnt tastes.Anyway what does it matter.Its a great game.Just let it come out already.No fights over a stupid review.Our own oppionion is what matters after all next week.
Cant wait to put supersampling on in nvidia inspector.I heared even the PS4 version have FPS drops here and there i hope PC wont have this.It shouldnt have actually.
♡ Katalina Aryze ♡ 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 2:48 
引用自 Gyson

Not bad, not amazing. Mediocre. It's enough to make Jrpg enthusiasts happy, especially since there aren't really any other options to choose from as far as "newer" Jrpg's go on Steam.
No. Mediocre is 5.0 - 5.9.

5.0-5.9 - Mediocre

This is the kind of bland, unremarkable game we’ve mostly forgotten about a day after we finish playing. A mediocre game isn’t something you should spend your time or money on if you consider either to be precious, but they’ll pass the time if you have nothing better to do.


Meanwhile, Tales of Zesteria received a 7.8.

7.0-7.9 - Good

Playing a Good game is time well spent. Could it be better? Absolutely. Maybe it lacks ambition, is too repetitive, has a few technical bumps in the road, or is too repetitive, but we came away from it happy nonetheless. We think you will, too.


The problem doesn't seem to be the score, but rather how you're choosing to reinterpret a score that the review site has already gone through the trouble of defining for you.

I'm not the one who's responding to every nearly every comment on this thread so the problem isn't how I'm misinterpreting the score...

No matter how you try to spin it, it is a mediocre score and everyone can see it. You don't have to defend this game to your last dying breath to prove it's going to be a decent game.

7.9/10 = C+....

A "C" grade is still mediocre but I'm not a person who goes by reviews (as I've stated in other threads, trust no review). So I'd hardly think that I'm misinterpreting much of anything here, as far as that goes I was just speaking on the Ign review specifically. However, it seems like you're trying way too hard.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/351970/discussions/0/490123197946863355/

Doesn't matter though. This game will probably get raving reviews here on Steam, because as I said before, there's not many other newer Jrpg's out there so this game will be praised even if it's average.
Gyson 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:06 
引用自 Gyson
No. Mediocre is 5.0 - 5.9.

5.0-5.9 - Mediocre

This is the kind of bland, unremarkable game we’ve mostly forgotten about a day after we finish playing. A mediocre game isn’t something you should spend your time or money on if you consider either to be precious, but they’ll pass the time if you have nothing better to do.


Meanwhile, Tales of Zesteria received a 7.8.

7.0-7.9 - Good

Playing a Good game is time well spent. Could it be better? Absolutely. Maybe it lacks ambition, is too repetitive, has a few technical bumps in the road, or is too repetitive, but we came away from it happy nonetheless. We think you will, too.


The problem doesn't seem to be the score, but rather how you're choosing to reinterpret a score that the review site has already gone through the trouble of defining for you.

I'm not the one who's responding to every nearly every comment on this thread so the problem isn't how I'm misinterpreting the score...

No matter how you try to spin it, it is a mediocre score and everyone can see it. You don't have to defend this game to your last dying breath to prove it's going to be a decent game.

7.9/10 = C+....

A "C" grade is still mediocre but I'm not a person who goes by reviews (as I've stated in other threads, trust no review). So I'd hardly think that I'm misinterpreting much of anything here, as far as that goes I was just speaking on the Ign review specifically. However, it seems like you're trying way too hard.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/351970/discussions/0/490123197946863355/

Doesn't matter though. This game will probably get raving reviews here on Steam, because as I said before, there's not many other newer Jrpg's out there so this game will be praised even if it's average.

Wait.. so.. when IGN gives a score, to see what that score actually means we're supposed to ignore IGN's own review scale ( http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Game_Reviews ) and instead feed the number through "DontBlink +_- UrDead" personal scoring system (which apparently has something in common with the school grading system)?

Yeah, no misinterpretations coming from you or anything... /eyeroll

Have you made IGN aware that they need to run their numbers through your filter first before publishing a score? That might be where the disconnect is happening.
最后由 Gyson 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:13
Vulgrim 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:07 
meh I honestly don't think the review was that bad or negative. She weighed the pros and cons quite well imo. She thought gameplay and the weapon/armor system was really good but thought the story was bland. That's honestly not that bad. I mean it is her personal opinion. Does that mean everyone else thinks the same way? Hell nah. That's the beauty of RPGs the story is in the eye of the beholder. :steamhappy:
Giving a 7.8 is pretty stupid though.. I guess they add .# to make it look like the score was a painstakingly hard decision and they're trying to come off as more "professional"? All a critic is, is another person in the world with an opinion. This weeks South Park episode shows us that. lmao anyway whatever, just round up
最后由 Vulgrim 编辑于; 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:09
♡ Katalina Aryze ♡ 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:14 
引用自 Gyson

I'm not the one who's responding to every nearly every comment on this thread so the problem isn't how I'm misinterpreting the score...

No matter how you try to spin it, it is a mediocre score and everyone can see it. You don't have to defend this game to your last dying breath to prove it's going to be a decent game.

7.9/10 = C+....

A "C" grade is still mediocre but I'm not a person who goes by reviews (as I've stated in other threads, trust no review). So I'd hardly think that I'm misinterpreting much of anything here, as far as that goes I was just speaking on the Ign review specifically. However, it seems like you're trying way too hard.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/351970/discussions/0/490123197946863355/

Doesn't matter though. This game will probably get raving reviews here on Steam, because as I said before, there's not many other newer Jrpg's out there so this game will be praised even if it's average.

Wait.. so.. when IGN gives a score, to see what that score actually means we're supposed to ignore IGN's own review scale ( http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Game_Reviews ) and instead feed the number through "DontBlink +_- UrDead" personal scoring system (which apparently has something in common with the school grading system)?

Yeah, no misinterpretations coming from you or anything... /eyeroll

Lol You didn't obviously didn't take anything I said into consideration.

Not sure if you're trolling or...

I'll play the game for myself and see if it's bad or not. Have fun defending your review. I'm not gonna submit myself into some fantasy world with a made-up score system. I went to school, so roll your eyes all you want. A 7.9 is average.

Does IGN do anything that's credible? Then why defend their score system? It's laughable.

Awful/Painful/Unbearable... different words with the same meaning. Let's not sugar-coat things. We're not kids here.

With that said, I think this game will be about an 8.5 in my eyes. We'll see.
Gyson 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Vulgrim
Giving a 7.8 is pretty stupid though.. I guess they add .# to make it look like the score was a painstakingly hard decision and they're trying to come off as more "professional"? All a critic is, is another person in the world with an opinion. This weeks South Park episode shows us that. lmao anyway whatever, just round up

Well, the 7.8 is .2 points shy of the range that gives the game a "Great" instead of "Good". So, I guess you can consider it just shy of being great, or really good, but not good enough to be considered great. If the score had been 7.1 or even 7.0, it would have been in the "Good" range, but just a hair above the "Okay" range.

So, the decimal point helps with determining where in a particular range a game falls.
Spectrasonic 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:19 
引用自 Gyson
No. Mediocre is 5.0 - 5.9.

5.0-5.9 - Mediocre

This is the kind of bland, unremarkable game we’ve mostly forgotten about a day after we finish playing. A mediocre game isn’t something you should spend your time or money on if you consider either to be precious, but they’ll pass the time if you have nothing better to do.


Meanwhile, Tales of Zesteria received a 7.8.

7.0-7.9 - Good

Playing a Good game is time well spent. Could it be better? Absolutely. Maybe it lacks ambition, is too repetitive, has a few technical bumps in the road, or is too repetitive, but we came away from it happy nonetheless. We think you will, too.


The problem doesn't seem to be the score, but rather how you're choosing to reinterpret a score that the review site has already gone through the trouble of defining for you.

I'm not the one who's responding to every nearly every comment on this thread so the problem isn't how I'm misinterpreting the score...

No matter how you try to spin it, it is a mediocre score and everyone can see it. You don't have to defend this game to your last dying breath to prove it's going to be a decent game.

7.9/10 = C+....

A "C" grade is still mediocre but I'm not a person who goes by reviews (as I've stated in other threads, trust no review). So I'd hardly think that I'm misinterpreting much of anything here, as far as that goes I was just speaking on the Ign review specifically. However, it seems like you're trying way too hard.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/351970/discussions/0/490123197946863355/

Doesn't matter though. This game will probably get raving reviews here on Steam, because as I said before, there's not many other newer Jrpg's out there so this game will be praised even if it's average.

This isn't high school - a 7.8 isn't a 'C+.'

5/10 is the 'average' or 'mediocre' score. 7.8/10 is a great score.

That's why places like metacritic classify a 5/10 as an 'average' review. Tales of Zesteria currently has a 7.7/10 on Metacritic, which means 'Generally favorable,' not average.
pokenar 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:20 
引用自 Gyson

Wait.. so.. when IGN gives a score, to see what that score actually means we're supposed to ignore IGN's own review scale ( http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Game_Reviews ) and instead feed the number through "DontBlink +_- UrDead" personal scoring system (which apparently has something in common with the school grading system)?

Yeah, no misinterpretations coming from you or anything... /eyeroll

Lol You didn't obviously didn't take anything I said into consideration.

Not sure if you're trolling or...

I'll play the game for myself and see if it's bad or not. Have fun defending your review. I'm not gonna submit myself into some fantasy world with a made-up score system. I went to school, so roll your eyes all you want. A 7.9 is average.

Does IGN do anything that's credible? Then why defend their score system? It's laughable.

Awful/Painful/Unbearable... different words with the same meaning. Let's not sugar-coat things. We're not kids here.

With that said, I think this game will be about an 8.5 in my eyes. We'll see.
this conversation is like two brick walls trying to talk to each other
pokenar 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:21 
In that, while sure the SCHOOL system works like that, the entire world doesn't submit to the school system, only someone still in school would think that.

the real world, you know, uses 5, the middle of the spectrum to note the average
♡ Katalina Aryze ♡ 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:26 
引用自 pokenar
In that, while sure the SCHOOL system works like that, the entire world doesn't submit to the school system, only someone still in school would think that.

the real world, you know, uses 5, the middle of the spectrum to note the average

Heh...

Are we talking about the real world here? Or just in reviewer mindset? Or maybe it's because I live in America.

Because I'm not in school anymore, and at work we use the same rating systems as in school when we get audited by the branch and personal reviews.
pokenar 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:32 
I live in Canada, so mabye it is one of those American things, like the continued full use of the imperial system and all that
♡ Katalina Aryze ♡ 2015 年 10 月 16 日 下午 3:35 
引用自 pokenar
I live in Canada, so mabye it is one of those American things, like the continued full use of the imperial system and all that

Ohhh. Yeah, tbh American systems are dumb lol I'm sure we annoy everyone with our measurement systems :/
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