IGN bashed the game hard like always with tales games.

[Xenogear]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review

Edit: 7.8 is great,Review is Bashy.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/15/tales-of-xillia-2-review

Xillia 2 got an 8 even higher than zestiria and that game is a total rebuild of the old one.That site doesnt make any sense anymore.

[Gyson]

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XeNoGeaR eredeti hozzászólása:

7.8 is good yes,but if you bash it that hard just give it a 4.0 or a 5.They bash it even harder than they did on batman in my eyes haha :D.Ahh well care mode i just wanna play :( :D

the key is that the higher reviews they do are often paid for by the companies, so when game reviews aren't paid for, and they come out with the natural score, it looks low.

So.. are you suggesting IGN was paid to give Tales of Zesteria a good review? Because that's what it received, a "good" rating. Actually, it received the upper-scale of the good rating. In fact, it was .2 points away from receiving a "great" rating.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked someone else. Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9? Is that what it takes for people to say "that IGN review is spot on!"?

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Gyson eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't really care what IGN gives other games. What does COD's review have to do with Tale of Zestiria's? Does COD's review in some way give you some insight into how Tales of Zesteria plays as a game? No. So who gives a flying fig how COD scored?

COD reviews, or any reviews made by them for that matter, give us some insight on how they review ALL games, why does some games get a free pass for being really repetitive while others do not? why some games that do nothing but recycle the same mechanics entry after entry get a free pass while others do not? while some games get high scores while the review ignores glaring issues and others do not? do they have a method to give those scores or is it only based on whatever the reviewer feels at the moment? it's applied to all games, by genres, by series or game by game? do the amount of ads in the site have any influence in the scores? my issue is with their methods and how they do the scores not the Review itself in case you haven't noticed yet.

"Due to a strict separation of IGN's editorial and ad sales departments, reviewers are unaware of any ad deals that may or may not coincide with a game's release before a review is published. "

You seem to have a lot of questions about how reviews at IGN work. They have a page set up to answer those questions:

http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Reviews

http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Game_Reviews

XeNoGeaR eredeti hozzászólása:

7.8 is good yes,but if you bash it that hard just give it a 4.0 or a 5.They bash it even harder than they did on batman in my eyes haha :D.Ahh well care mode i just wanna play :( :D

Can you spell out exactly how/where you felt the game was "bashed hard"? Which parts of the review are bothering you, specifically?

For the record, Tales of Vesperia recieved an 8.2 ("great" game rating), Tales of Legendia received a 7.7 ("good" game rating), Tales of Symphonia received an 8.5 ("great" game rating), Tales of the Abyss received an 8.3 ("great" game rating), Tales of Phantasia received a 7.5 ("good" game rating), Tales of Xillia received an 8 ("great" game rating), Tales of the World received a 7.5 ("good" game rating), Tales of Graces F received an 8.7 ("great" game rating), and Dawn of the New World received a 6.7 ("okay" game rating). I'm just not seeing the IGN hate toward the Tale series your title strongly implies. You're coming across far more biased than they do.

[pokenar]

Gyson eredeti hozzászólása:

pokenar eredeti hozzászólása:

the key is that the higher reviews they do are often paid for by the companies, so when game reviews aren't paid for, and they come out with the natural score, it looks low.

So.. are you suggesting IGN was paid to give Tales of Zesteria a good review? Because that's what it received, a "good" rating. Actually, it received the upper-scale of the good rating. In fact, it was .2 points away from receiving a "great" rating.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked someone else. Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9? Is that what it takes for people to say "that IGN review is spot on!"?

a 7.8 is a good review, but is not a paid review

I am not really complaining that it got a 7.8, I'm saying other games like CoD get a 9+ rating when it should be down around 6

[Gyson]

pokenar eredeti hozzászólása:

Gyson eredeti hozzászólása:

So.. are you suggesting IGN was paid to give Tales of Zesteria a good review? Because that's what it received, a "good" rating. Actually, it received the upper-scale of the good rating. In fact, it was .2 points away from receiving a "great" rating.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked someone else. Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9? Is that what it takes for people to say "that IGN review is spot on!"?

a 7.8 is a good review, but is not a paid review

I am not really complaining that it got a 7.8, I'm saying other games like CoD get a 9+ rating when it should be down around 6

And yet plenty of people love CoD. Just because you or I don't doesn't mean it doesn't deserve its score.

Look, reviews are aimed at people who like a specific genre - they give you an opinion of how well that game fits within the expectations of that genre. I don't think I've ever seen a review that is like "It's another stupid shooter.. sooo.. if that's not already enough to make you hit the 'back' button on your browser, buckle in while I try to slog through the rest of my CoD review assignment..". If you're reading a CoD review, the expectation is that you're actually interested in an honest opinion of that type of game. Not that you're looking for troll material.

CoD reviews are there for people interested in those types of games. Just as a Tales of review is there for people who like JRPGs.

[dragonvare]

I trust IGN reviews for RPG 'S like I trust someone who just stole my wallet. If they hate it, then that means I will love it.

[Lott. Z]

uhh, nerd. they gave it a Good score of 7.8. Just cause they didn't jizz all over it like you want to, doesn't mean it was a bad review. She points out pros and cons...like a ...critical review ...or something.

[Gyson]

dragonvare eredeti hozzászólása:

I trust IGN reviews for RPG 'S like I trust someone who just stole my wallet. If they hate it, then that means I will love it.

Having read the review, apparently IGN liked Tales of Zesteria. I guess you will probably dislike it. :(

Seriously, this silliness comes up with so many game releases.

IGN: opinions. possible issues. things we liked.
Game fans: <snort> It's IGN. Bad review is bad.

2 weeks later..

Game fans turned game haters: WHY HAS THIS GAME FAILED LIFE??

(sigh)

[Xenogear]

R. Lott eredeti hozzászólása:

uhh, nerd. they gave it a Good score of 7.8. Just cause they didn't jizz all over it like you want to, doesn't mean it was a bad review. She points out pros and cons...like a ...critical review ...or something.

just open your ears in the review its only cons all the way from start to end.Oh yeah this is good and then bash bash bash.

If you give a 7.8 it should be a solid review with some happy thoughts,this was negative all over the place.Watch a IGN review of Tales of Vesperia instead.It was a dude revieuwing and he made an awesome review of that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFSsbtVNPU

Just open your ears and hear the differnce compared to that woman lol.Offcourse vesperia was an awesome game but still.

[Gyson]

XeNoGeaR eredeti hozzászólása:

R. Lott eredeti hozzászólása:

uhh, nerd. they gave it a Good score of 7.8. Just cause they didn't jizz all over it like you want to, doesn't mean it was a bad review. She points out pros and cons...like a ...critical review ...or something.

just open your ears in the review its only cons all the way from start to end.Oh yeah this is good and then bash bash bash.

If you give a 7.8 it should be a solid review with some happy thoughts,this was negative all over the place.Watch a IGN review of Tales of Vesperia instead.It was a dude revieuwing and he made an awesome review of that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFSsbtVNPU

Just open your ears and hear the differnce compared to that woman lol.Offcourse vesperia was an awesome game but still.

Either we are watching different videos, or you have something in your ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzNCrkP1LY

Most of that video is praise after praise. There are a few complaints on topics already covered in the text review (dungeon blandness, travel time towards the end of the game, uninspiring story/characters). Is the reviewer not supposed to include the bad with the good?

[GrimReaper]

The guy that reviewed the game is actually a big tales fan and he no longer work at IGN, just fyi.

The other tales that is not ToZ.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

R. Lott eredeti hozzászólása:

uhh, nerd. they gave it a Good score of 7.8. Just cause they didn't jizz all over it like you want to, doesn't mean it was a bad review. She points out pros and cons...like a ...critical review ...or something.

Not bad, not amazing. Mediocre. It's enough to make Jrpg enthusiasts happy, especially since there aren't really any other options to choose from as far as "newer" Jrpg's go on Steam.

[Xenogear]

Gyson eredeti hozzászólása:

XeNoGeaR eredeti hozzászólása:

just open your ears in the review its only cons all the way from start to end.Oh yeah this is good and then bash bash bash.

If you give a 7.8 it should be a solid review with some happy thoughts,this was negative all over the place.Watch a IGN review of Tales of Vesperia instead.It was a dude revieuwing and he made an awesome review of that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFSsbtVNPU

Just open your ears and hear the differnce compared to that woman lol.Offcourse vesperia was an awesome game but still.

Either we are watching different videos, or you have something in your ears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzNCrkP1LY

Most of that video is praise after praise. There are a few complaints on topics already covered in the text review (dungeon blandness, travel time towards the end of the game, uninspiring story/characters). Is the reviewer not supposed to include the bad with the good?

Its just personal then i guess,I didnt like the womans review at all.Am just to bored as well atm.Give me the game you wont see me flame anymore :D.

[EverNight]

Game informer liked it even less :(
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/tales_of_zestiria/b/playstation4/archive/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review-game-informer.aspx

[Xenogear]

They liked it less but its a better review :P

[Gyson]

DontBlink +_- UrDead eredeti hozzászólása:

R. Lott eredeti hozzászólása:

uhh, nerd. they gave it a Good score of 7.8. Just cause they didn't jizz all over it like you want to, doesn't mean it was a bad review. She points out pros and cons...like a ...critical review ...or something.

Not bad, not amazing. Mediocre. It's enough to make Jrpg enthusiasts happy, especially since there aren't really any other options to choose from as far as "newer" Jrpg's go on Steam.

No. Mediocre is 5.0 - 5.9.

5.0-5.9 - Mediocre

This is the kind of bland, unremarkable game we’ve mostly forgotten about a day after we finish playing. A mediocre game isn’t something you should spend your time or money on if you consider either to be precious, but they’ll pass the time if you have nothing better to do.

Meanwhile, Tales of Zesteria received a 7.8.

7.0-7.9 - Good

Playing a Good game is time well spent. Could it be better? Absolutely. Maybe it lacks ambition, is too repetitive, has a few technical bumps in the road, or is too repetitive, but we came away from it happy nonetheless. We think you will, too.

The problem doesn't seem to be the score, but rather how you're choosing to reinterpret a score that the review site has already gone through the trouble of defining for you.

[Gyson]

XeNoGeaR eredeti hozzászólása:

They liked it less but its a better review :P

Game Informer:

The Tales franchise has seen its ups and downs through the years, but Tales of Zestiria is the most disappointing entry in the long-running series since 2006's Tales of Legendia. Zestiria has flickers of greatness, such as a cool battle system and more mature story, but they're wasted on frustrating, inexcusable gameplay mechanics. To put it bluntly, this entry feels dated. It makes you suffer through backtracking, longwinded battles, and boring dialogue.

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Tales of Zestiria feels like a game from another time in many ways, and not in the charming type of way. It forces you through some the most boring and outdated elements from RPGs of yesteryear. If the series wants to stay relevant it needs to put forth a better effort than Zestiria.

IGN:

I think of the Tales series as RPG comfort food. It reliably delivers cheerful characters, a story anchored in friendship, and a unique brawler-tinged spin on RPG combat. Tales of Zestiria is no exception, but the big shift to an open world and some flashy new combat moves makes it pleasantly different from its predecessors.

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Tales of Zestiria doesn’t deviate too far from its competent predecessors, but it’s not a carbon copy, either. It may have linear dungeons and a less-than-stellar story, but it’s open-world exploration, enjoyable customization, and flashy new Armitization feature are enough for it to stand on its own.

You have some serious IGN hate issues, to the point of not even being able to make a rationale comparison.