IGN bashed the game hard like always with tales games.

[Xenogear]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/16/tales-of-zestiria-review

Edit: 7.8 is great,Review is Bashy.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/15/tales-of-xillia-2-review

Xillia 2 got an 8 even higher than zestiria and that game is a total rebuild of the old one.That site doesnt make any sense anymore.

[Yuuki]

well you cant take ign serious #toomuchwater

[Cain]

引用自 Gyson：

It seemed like a reasonable review. The only thing that isn't reasonable is an expectation for a game you're hyped about to receive a glowing review across the board.

i don't expect that at all, Zestiria has a lot of problems: Bland main character, camera in close space, empty maps, boring dungeon designs and so on, but IGN bashes this game for it while give constantly recycled games like Far Cry, COD or ACreed's, that frequently suffers the same issues, 9's and glowing reviews while their site is filled with ads from the said games.

[Shan]

引用自 patyos：

its ign what did you expect

[Arceles]

It has been known that this game has... story issues. It was heavily bashed in japan. Honestly, the last good tales games were probably those before and including Vesperia... afterwards characters feel too generic and the story is not so great... (Note that I have played Phantasia/Destiny/Eternia/Abyss/Legendia/Symphonia/Dawn/Vesperia, and from all of those I would go in order for best games Phantasia/Eternia/Vesperia/Dawn(yes, it is a good game despite some critics)/Symphonia/Legendia/Abyss/Destiny.

I understand the need of supporting jrpgs with preorders but seriously, namco only makes tales games that are merely a shadow of what they once were.

(Also note, that whereas the music it has been great... this games do not reach the level of the falcom (Ys and Legend of Heroes Series) ones in music)

[neko_kun]

Bandai didn't pay IGN enough for a better score.

[Gyson]

引用自 Cain：

引用自 Gyson：

It seemed like a reasonable review. The only thing that isn't reasonable is an expectation for a game you're hyped about to receive a glowing review across the board.

i don't expect that at all, Zestiria has a lot of problems: Bland main character, camera in close space, empty maps, boring dungeon designs and so on, but IGN bashes this game for it while give constantly recycled games like Far Cry, COD or ACreed's, that frequently suffers the same issues, 9's and glowing reviews while their site is filled with ads from the said games.

I don't really care what IGN gives other games. What does COD's review have to do with Tale of Zestiria's? Does COD's review in some way give you some insight into how Tales of Zesteria plays as a game? No. So who gives a flying fig how COD scored?

I don't even care about the score. The meat is in the review text, and having read the review text I don't see anything in there that you yourself didn't already repeat. Yet because the opinions came from "IGN" instead of "Cain", we're supposed to immediately blow the review off? That's just silly. Also, how was IGN's review "bashing the game"? It seemed pretty tame and reasonable.

Honestly, I'm more surprised that the review didn't even mention the camera issues. Maybe the reviewer is an MMO player who (like me) has learned to just accept that kind of stuff as the norm. However, this isn't an MMO, so it's surprising they weren't mentioned.

Again, is there anything in the review text you actually disagree with? Something other than being annoyed that other games got better reviews?

[Truhan]

引用自 Reachie：

7.8 isn't a bad score, jeez

It is when you consider the only game IGN gives less than a 7 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ God Hand.

http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/God_Hand_vs_Party_Babyz.jpg

[Gyson]

引用自 Truhan：

引用自 Reachie：

7.8 isn't a bad score, jeez

It is when you consider the only game IGN gives less than a 7 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ God Hand.

http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/God_Hand_vs_Party_Babyz.jpg

Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9?

[Mizurazu]

引用自 Truhan：

引用自 Reachie：

7.8 isn't a bad score, jeez

It is when you consider the only game IGN gives less than a 7 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ God Hand.

http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/God_Hand_vs_Party_Babyz.jpg

7.8 is not a bad score. Stop complaining.

[robflop]

You don't even have to care about IGN. They always do ♥♥♥♥ like that.

[Truhan]

引用自 Gyson：

引用自 Truhan：

It is when you consider the only game IGN gives less than a 7 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ God Hand.

http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/God_Hand_vs_Party_Babyz.jpg

Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9?

I'm just saying don't take ANYTHING on IGN seriously. Ever. Review scales are absurdly stilted anyways, a 5.0 should ideally be an "average" game, yet every review treats 8 as the "average". I'm more in favor of a thumbs up/down review style myself.

[Gyson]

引用自 Reachie：

引用自 Truhan：

It is when you consider the only game IGN gives less than a 7 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ God Hand.

http://rpgmaker.net/media/content/users/947/locker/God_Hand_vs_Party_Babyz.jpg

It's not a bad score. Stop complaining.

In fact:

7.0-7.9 - Good

Playing a Good game is time well spent. Could it be better? Absolutely. Maybe it lacks ambition, is too repetitive, has a few technical bumps in the road, or is too repetitive, but we came away from it happy nonetheless. We think you will, too.

Nothing says "avoid this game" like the above. Wait.. it doesn't say that at all.

(calmly puts down the table I was about to flip)

[76561198091732308]

7,8/10 No bad! No cod 0/10 IGN

[Gyson]

引用自 Truhan：

引用自 Gyson：

Assuming all the complaints in the review's text are valid, what numerical score do you think it should have gotten? If not a "7.8", then what? 9.9?

I'm just saying don't take ANYTHING on IGN seriously. Ever. Review scales are absurdly stilted anyways, a 5.0 should ideally be an "average" game, yet every review treats 8 as the "average". I'm more in favor of a thumbs up/down review style myself.

8.0-8.9 - Great

These games leave us with something outstanding to remember them by, usually novel gameplay ideas for single-player or multiplayer, clever characters and writing, noteworthy graphics and sound, or some combination thereof. If we have major complaints, there are more than enough excellent qualities to cancel them out.

That's "average"?

5.0-5.9 - Mediocre

This is the kind of bland, unremarkable game we’ve mostly forgotten about a day after we finish playing. A mediocre game isn’t something you should spend your time or money on if you consider either to be precious, but they’ll pass the time if you have nothing better to do.

That sounds more like "average" to me.

Oh well, according to their score and review, IGN thought Tales of Zesteria was a good game that you'd be happy to play. According to you we shouldn't take that seriously, so.. yeah. You tell 'em.

[TyanmirRise]

引用自 Reachie：

7.8 isn't a bad score, jeez

True... But I think OP's point is based on HOW they've explained the rationale for their score...

引用自 Gyson：

Everyone seems quick to bash this IGN review, but I'm not convinced all of you bothered to read it before commenting. For those of you bashing away at it.. exactly what in the review do you disagree with?

They seemed to think the dungeon designs were uninspired - from what I can tell, that's largely true. It's not a game-breaker for me, but it is what it is.

They weren't overly impressed with the story or some of the characters. Since nobody on this forum can seem to agree on which Tales game is the best or worst of the series, it should come as no surprise that someone is going to have lukewarm reaction to the storyline or characters of a particular Tales game. I'm sure each of you have had that experience with at least one game in the series as well (and I'm willing to bet most of you can't agree on which one it is).

It seemed like a reasonable review. The only thing that isn't reasonable is an expectation for a game you're hyped about to receive a glowing review across the board. Meanwhile, you can still enjoy (or dislike) a game even if someone didn't. And if that someone happens to be a reviewer, it changes nothing (beyond the fact that their opinion probably reaches a wider audience than yours, which I think is really what ultimately annoys gamers the most).

Which brings me to this... Valid points; besides having bought this game, I can't really gauge whether this will hold a candle to my favorite Tales of the Abyss in terms of characterization and story or even the upcoming Symphonia (from my limited playtime with the latter it seemed chock full of secret bosses and characters). I guess we'll just have to wait until early next week. I remain hopeful however regarding this game's chances of being a source of great fun. And a great technical performer on PC as well.