Zestiria and Berseria World Name?

[Knightmage Bael]

What's the name of the actual WORLD that these two games take place in? I'm not sure I ever heard them say it. They've thrown around names of Kingdoms and Eras, and we know they're both linked - but I still don't know. I mean I assume you could just call it "Aeselia" but that's the name of the wiki, lol. I don't think that quite works haha.

[WIL-H]

I don't know about Berseria, but in Zestiria, it's Glennwood, not sure if it was the same name during Berseria events.

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by WIL-H:

I don't know about Berseria, but in Zestiria, it's Glennwood, not sure if it was the same name during Berseria events.

Glenwood is listed as a continent. Just as Berseria lists Midgand, Northgand, Southgand, Endgand, etc. Those are all places in the world - which has no label. We live on Earth, in whatever continent. However I cant seem to find any information on the planet/realm/whatever this takes place in. XD

[Vandread]

Didn't Berseria call the world "Desolation" ?

[Simon]

Originally posted by Vandread:

Didn't Berseria call the world "Desolation" ?

Yes. Their world is called Desolation. ("Wasteland" in Japanese) I don't know why there is a need to change Wasteland to Desolation, but whatever...

[Knightmage Bael]

wait what? that's...that sounds just like a description...is that really the label of their world? when was this?

[Simon]

The information about the name of their world can be found in Berseria, by inspecting a certain bookshelf inside the Villa in Loegres. It was when you broke in there last time to kill the high priest. The book depicts "Since ancient times, our world, an untamed wilderness, has been called by the name Desolation".

Plus, the info can also be found by talking to an NPC when all your party member split up during the sunset at Port Zekson. It was the evening in Port Zekson, just before you head off towards the Empyrean's Throne. One of the sentence that the NPC said, "Aye. Whoever decided to call this world Desolation must never have imagined such sights." (he is probably talking about the beautiful sunset)


The reason I know such details is because I took some screenshots.

[Knightmage Bael]

That's....weird. I think I just glazed over that and ignored it. I mean I check side stuff all the time, but..."desolation"? ^^;

[Kenshin]

When Eizen talks about his coin, he say to us that what we can see on the faces of the coi are Dahos and Martel from the past war for Idgrasil... well... that the story of Tales of Phantasia... Then the name of the world would be... Aselia ^^;;;
Maybe they changed it with the time ^^;;;

[Simon]

Originally posted by Kenshin:

When Eizen talks about his coin, he say to us that what we can see on the faces of the coi are Dahos and Martel from the past war for Idgrasil... well... that the story of Tales of Phantasia... Then the name of the world would be... Aselia ^^;;;
Maybe they changed it with the time ^^;;;

No, wrong. Many people thought what Eizen said was canon, but I am 99% certain it is more of a reference/fan service/Easter egg. It is pretty obvious that the Gleenwood and the Aselia worlds functions very differently in the fundamental level.

If Aselia is indeed the same world with Glenwood, then the rest of the Tales games will be in the world as well. This is because we can see tons of other Reference throughout the game referencing to other Tales games. For instance, there are a lot of islands with names from various Tales game in the "Voyage Map" (the one in menu that lets you salvage items, I forgot the name)

Furthermore, the Glenwood timeline has Seraphim, Hellions, Malevolence, Empyreans etc.
However in Aselia, there are Elf, Drawf, Mana, Yggdrasill, Derris Kharlan, Summon Spirits etc.

Not to mention that the inspiration for the world setting for Aselia timeline is taken from Norse and Glenwood timeline from Arthurian Legends.

[Kenshin]

Yeah, I know that we can see many references from a game to another, but the Eizen reference is a very BIG reference, he talk of a distant past, that the thing that make me think about Aselia.
In the other games we didn't have BIG references, but only little trivial references (for example, in a bookcase of Tales of Destiny you can find a fable book named "Tales of Phantasia").
Then mine was only an hypotesis that make me happy ^^
Even if I don't like Zestiria...

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by Kenshin:

Yeah, I know that we can see many references from a game to another, but the Eizen reference is a very BIG reference, he talk of a distant past, that the thing that make me think about Aselia.
In the other games we didn't have BIG references, but only little trivial references (for example, in a bookcase of Tales of Destiny you can find a fable book named "Tales of Phantasia").
Then mine was only an hypotesis that make me happy ^^
Even if I don't like Zestiria...

I hated zestiria because of that weird rune/normin system they had, with like 50 different normin and lining things up vertically and horizontally, the fusion of skill, and trying to calculate that all...made it impossible to build a character out of anything other than just luck. "Oh hey I have fire now. I guess since I nullify fire, I'll just switch to use only fire moves now" or whatever. I get the feeling of what their system could have been, but it was executed just...awfully poorly.

[Kenshin]

In my point of view Zestiria is:
Main character with no personality
Alisha is realy obnoxious
Story is... meh... (and ripped from star wars)
Gameplay is lagged and with camera problems

[Knightmage Bael]

Originally posted by Kenshin:

In my point of view Zestiria is:
Main character with no personality
Alisha is realy obnoxious
Story is... meh... (and ripped from star wars)
Gameplay is lagged and with camera problems

everything is ripped from SW. Even SW is ripped from SW.

...Actually to be more specific, SW is ripped from the Arthurian Legend style of epic writing. Many of the characters can be directly related to characters from the legend of Arthur. I mean the -real- legend, not the hollywood bastardized stuff. I mean to anyone who's read Le Morte D'Artur en francais, or the other books such as The Winter King (I highly recommend this, excellent book).

Or The Mists of Avalon, told from the female perspective.

I could go on. I love that legend. Point is, star wars stole pretty much every story element. That's story telling on a grand scale that even THEY ripped off, so its not really fair to say "oh yeah its ripped from star wars" because its a method of story telling, and progression used for centuries and centuries of story telling.

Plus, given how Japan loves making use of western literature, I'm not at all surprised, and frankly, I don't mind all that much. As for the lagging? Well, its obviously a poor PC port. BaNamCo I feel like doesn't take the PC market too seriously. As for main character with no personality, eh...debatable. He has an interesting background, being raised among Seraphs. Its more genuine and honest, which is something normal people call a goody two shoes, and I think that actually proves the story's point about human nature, which is one of the main plot points of the story. Human Nature is corrupting. This alone is a common theme to see, and I find it interesting. Everyone always has to be so interested in themselves. its nice to see the opposite every once in a while.

[Kenshin]

Yeah, I know that SW is ispired to many things, even japanese old movies and asiatic cultures, but we have "a force that corrupt people", "a legion of jed...doushi who can use misteriuos power" "the last of the jedi...doushi incarned in a boy who doesn't know that he has a similar power" and these are only the more easy to find... in short I was waithing that Heldalf said to Sorey "I am your father"

For the fact of the bad programming... I hasn't play the steam porting of Zestiria... I played it on Playstation... and from what I saw on the net I wasn't the only to get problem with the game...
Instead i'm playing Berseria on steam and it goes really really fine ^^

[Knightmage Bael]

Well, its the "Grand Adventure" literature style, or something like that. Its a really really old method of story telling that goes much further back than even King Arthur, and it causes a lot of similar elements. Its not inherently bad...its just...

...too obvious, when its done poorly. I think that's more Zestiria's fault with the story. A lot of people said Vesperia's story was --awful-- but now people are like "yeah, its good. *shrug*".

In my case I remember its bad because of the fusion system. Predominantly. Is that the only thing that makes it bad? Of course not, but its what I remember the most, so I feel like its not as bad as it actually is, because that's what stands out to me. I spend the game going "grrrr what do these turn into, why is this so hard?!" instead of "that story writing is cringy!"

...XD

Berseria is amazing. I could fangirlboy over Velvet for HOURS.