Possibility to tame animals?

[Cocytus]

i thought it would be cool to be able to tame animals yourself, like capturing them in a trap pit, then putting a leash on them, struggling to get them back to your settlement and feeding them everyday with food they like until they get familiar with you, or if you stumble across a lone wolf in an area you could lure it with some cuts of meat until it recognizes you as it's companion instead of a thread or stuff like that =)

what do you guys think?
would that be possible, do you share my opinion or would it destroy the game for you?

[bruins72]

I guess it all depends on whether they did that back then. It seems like they really want to keep things historically accurate.

[Cocytus]

bruins72 eredeti hozzászólása:

I guess it all depends on whether they did that back then. It seems like they really want to keep things historically accurate.

well, since some tribes are selling tamed reindeers i guess at least that would be acceptable in terms of history, and i bet some finns were taming wolfes aswell, i mean how would they be able to have dogs without having wolves beforehand?

[bruins72]

Good point. Theyy've been domesticated over time.

[Privateer]

Some animal taming / domestication discussions from the Forum[www.google.com]

[Cocytus]

Privateer eredeti hozzászólása:

Some animal taming / domestication discussions from the Forum[www.google.com]

no offense, but i'm posting it here, because i don't like to register on every forum out there, so thanks, but i want to discuss it here

[Privateer]

Woolridge eredeti hozzászólása:

no offense, but i'm posting it here, because i don't like to register on every forum out there, so thanks, but i want to discuss it here

None taken. It doesn't seem to be in the works. Wild animals can not be tamed or leashed.
Some can be caught and corraled, but will never take a leash. Lynx is the closest thing I've had an uneasy peace with over a long period of time. With it coming within 12 meters and eating food thrown nearby every couple days.

[Othobrithol]

As much as I do miss having twin escort lynxes and battle bears (old exploit) there really isn't any realism to the idea of "taming" an undomesticated carnivore. They never actually lose their wild streak. Sure, you can make a bear ride the unicyle if you have a whip and a cage, but a real life grizzly adams would be grizzly droppings.

From what I understand it takes like an hour of contact for a dog puppy to become accustomed to humans for life. Evidently, it takes a wolf daily contact from a very young age to tolerate a human, and if contact is broken the tolerance can end permanently.

I'm no expert, but I have read it has something to do with when certain neuroregulatory genes are active; supposedly domesticated animals are born wired "on" and constantly ready to imprint their social group/mother/pack where wild species are only receptive to imprinting for a narrow period.

[bruins72]

So taming wild animals seems to be out but what about breeding the domesticated ones? I'd love to get a pen full of sheep or cows.

[Privateer]

bruins72 eredeti hozzászólása:

So taming wild animals seems to be out but what about breeding the domesticated ones? I'd love to get a pen full of sheep or cows.

This may be closer, but animals would need some value system as you can't sell animals atm

[Cocytus]

Othobrithol eredeti hozzászólása:

As much as I do miss having twin escort lynxes and battle bears (old exploit) there really isn't any realism to the idea of "taming" an undomesticated carnivore. They never actually lose their wild streak. Sure, you can make a bear ride the unicyle if you have a whip and a cage, but a real life grizzly adams would be grizzly droppings.

From what I understand it takes like an hour of contact for a dog puppy to become accustomed to humans for life. Evidently, it takes a wolf daily contact from a very young age to tolerate a human, and if contact is broken the tolerance can end permanently.

I'm no expert, but I have read it has something to do with when certain neuroregulatory genes are active; supposedly domesticated animals are born wired "on" and constantly ready to imprint their social group/mother/pack where wild species are only receptive to imprinting for a narrow period.

to be honest, what you're telling is only 50% true and 50% nonsense...
you're talking about taming not domesticated animals is imposible...

first, a domesticated animal doesn't need to be tamed because it is already tame

and second, how do you think we got the dogs we have nowadays?
we got them because wolves got tamed and promising ones were bred for the desired job, like f.e. shepherds for herding.

don't get me wrong, i don't think taming a wild animal is an quick and easy job, but it is by no means impossible as long as you don't try to break the animal's will

[Othobrithol]

To be honest, your replys are a bit condescendingly defensive. There is no need to be that way. You actually asked for opinions and discussion.

The domestication of the dog predates all other domestications, written language and agriculture, so anybody's version of "how the dog came to be" is speculation. There is ample scholarly debate that both the dog and the cat actually "self domesticated" and thus evolved into a symbiotic relationship where tameness was a benefical trait. The wolf that wasn't paniced by our presence,and didn't act threatening to us, got to eat our scraps and made more pups than the ones we ran off or killed because they acted in a threatening manner.

Everything I have ever read about taming and training wolves involves an extensive daily regimen by dedicated specialists with the ability to control both the movement and feeding of the animal. Even then, it's not uncommon for a wolf to willingly choose to start ignoring commands it has been trained, much like a cat.

So yes, if you somehow got a wolf pup and raised it in a controlled environment, you could make it tame and even train it a little. Iron age survivor man capturing an adult wolf and making it into a guard dog roaming the wilderness... that's not realistic.

[Cocytus]

Othobrithol eredeti hozzászólása:

So yes, if you somehow got a wolf pup and raised it in a controlled environment, you could make it tame and even train it a little. Iron age survivor man capturing an adult wolf and making it into a guard dog roaming the wilderness... that's not realistic.

sorry about the defensive behavior, got a bit carried away there >_<

but you're definately right about the adult wolf, but i've read they want to implement nests and breeding wildlife at some point and then you would be able to get your hands on some pups you could raise

that's why i got the idea, so sorry that i didn't write that in the first place =)

[Privateer]

Woolridge eredeti hozzászólása:

i've read they want to implement nests and breeding wildlife at some point and then you would be able to get your hands on some pups you could raise

that's why i got the idea, so sorry that i didn't write that in the first place =)

There are nests with eggs already, to provide eggs not young birds.
There are no young animals yet. Breeding will most likely be first represented in already domesticated animals first. Just a guess.

[Cocytus]

Privateer eredeti hozzászólása:

There are nests with eggs already, there are no young animals yet. Breeding will most likely be first represented in already domesticated animals. Just a guess.

ok, didn't know about the eggs (maybe just unlucky to not find one until the 4th winter) =D

and about the breeding, i was more reffering to wild animals mating
(sorry english isn't my main language)

[Othobrithol]

I am soooo looking forward to animals breeding.