The stealth/chase sequences need to go

[Sindex]

I am enjoying the game quite a bit and just finished the first case, but the stealth (where you follow a guy) and the chase (when you are running away from a guy) parts of that case were absolutely terrible.

I know that this is the first time the company has done something like this, so I expect a few rough edges, but they just took too long and weren't any fun, just frustrating.

They should at least let us skip them like they do with some puzzles. I mean if I wanted bad stealth segments, I'd be playing Assassins Creed, not Sherlock Holmes.

[RainaMermaid]

I totally agree. The stealth was annoying as all hell, and I can't get through the stupid chase scene. The "cover" should be relabelled "target" because it doesn't provide target at all.

Im not good at that type of stuff. It's why I loved the previous games, because I rarely had to do anything like that.

[Sindex]

Yes, while I don't mind action in games, those were just poorly done.

The worst part is that they took too long. It would have been fun for a short while, but it took like 3 times as long as it should have (the chimney bit made me and my girlfriend laugh, like wtf?!).

In any case, making them skippable seems like a must have. If the devs still want more action in their games, then they should take a few notes from L.A. Noir.

[PossiblePsycho]

Wait, so the game is not only rediculously pricy, it's also not a pure adventure game anymore? I've been following Frogwares Holmes games from the very beginning, but looks like it's the end of the line for me, action and stealth in adventure games almost always ruin the experience for me.

Originally posted by HappyZavulon:

In any case, making them skippable seems like a must have. If the devs still want more action in their games, then they should take a few notes from L.A. Noir.

And that's an extremely rear example of game packed with action sequences perfectly adjusted even to people who tend to ignore action games and usually hate such elements. "Easy" difficulty level is really easy (even such a clumsy person as me didn't experience problems most of the time), you can always skip shooting/chasing if you want (as you've mentioned), and these elements don't feel out of place, they are combined with adventure gameplay in a perfect proportion. But, once again, that's an exception. Anyway, a Sherlock Holmes game should be slow-paced, it should be about investigation and deduction, about the brilliant mind catching criminals, not about running and fighting. I'll probably buy the game if the developers introduce an opportunity to skip any non-adventure sequence, buy for now I'll pass.

[yusupov]

these are awful..so tedious, & (related) i cant believe frogware doesnt 100% get that people want to play as holmes, not a kid, not a freaking dog. sherlock ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ holmes!!

i swore i saw a video review saying they were skippable...if theyre not finishing this gmae is going t obe a slog. thats not cool.

[RealCaptainN]

They are skipable yes. But if you skip them you have about 10 solid minutes of gameplay in the first case. I haven't done any of the other cases yet but the one I have done there was very little adventure gaming going on. I'm a big fan of their sherlock holmes games, I own all of them. But I feel there is way more QTE/chasing events than there is detectiving going on. C&P was how they should have kept it. I don't even mind the change in character looks, I didn't even mind there being QTE events. But it seems that that is the majority of the game.

[yusupov]

i dont mind the change in looks but i do mind that i can barely tell holmes is british. and thats partly a lie he should be pale and thin, not...jon hamm.

[Tinji]

i died so many times.... cant skip it. now im in a fight at case 3..... and when i grab the tablett evry time i got shoot. dosent matter when i grab it.... changed so much but alsways die

[hedop]

Well that's what you get for trying to be more like the Holmes movies instead of sticking to the actual books for inspiration. You get a Watson who likes Jude Law and a Holmes who looks like Downey jr. on Roids and runs and fights in every second scene. I loved the games for their slow pacing and investigating. The only thing I would have ever added would have been a mobile labratory for Holmes and Toby accompanying them on every case so I don't have to run back to Baker street every ten minutes with those ridiculous loading times.

The only gameplay change I would have made would have been to let you choose how you want to process certain evidence so that you can actually reach "wrong" conclusions but that's it.

[Sindex]

C&P was definitely the better game it seems. I just hope they listen to the feedback and improve accordingly in their next title, and patch this game to make that stuff skippable.

[kreia]

I loved c&p from what I've seen on reviews it seems like the new up and hip Sherlock if it was inspired by the previous titles and kept to the none stealth fighting bs they wouldn't be able to bring in the newer dumber crowd would they? Lol that being said can you change appearance like the previous installments?

[kreia]

It would be like making a poirot game where he and Hastings have pub brawls with suspects halfway through cases c

[Spatz]

Hey Kreia! Does this remind you of anything, like when Bioware handed off the KOTOR franchise to Obsidian?

[kreia]

Yup they were dark days is it just me or does Watson look like he's just got out of a gay Victorian dominatrix party?

[okvee]

Rarely do I agree this much about a single design decision being so bad for the game experience overall. This chasing/shooting sequence really is getting frustrating as hell and having to repeat it zillion times because I suck at this kind of action/timing sequences is really a bummer. If I only could skip it, I would gladly do so, but there seems to be no way to skip.

[Sindex]

Originally posted by okvee:

This chasing/shooting sequence really is getting frustrating as hell and having to repeat it zillion times because I suck at this kind of action/timing sequences is really a bummer.

I don't even think that you suck mate. I consider myself to be quite good when it comes to action games so I shouldn't have any problems, but those sequinces are just so clunky that it's impossible to enjoy them even if you are doing well.

I failed the swamp part like 10 times because there was no real indication as to where to go, and walking on the invisible paths was very hard because of the impercise controls.

Originally posted by kreia:

s it just me or does Watson look like he's just got out of a gay Victorian dominatrix party?

Hah, now that gave me a laugh. Yeah, the new Watson does look a bit odd to say the least. I did prefer the previous look of him, but hey, maybe he finally found himself in this cruel new world ahah