Randomly way too hard!!!!!!

[erik]

Defeated melania, demon of hatred, orphan kos, etc etc, HARD bosses, but doable, but some of these in here are just like what the heyyyy..??? (Looking at you chainskullguy)
So please can we have an update where this one is not 159.000 times harder than melania it makes no sense.. and that you have to walk ages to saves, then ages to another save to repair.. The game is beautifun otherwize!

[Plumber]

Don’t even bother getting close to Ogre. Keep your distance and pelt it down with gun / subweapons, even if you have no way to stop overheating. Use Hulking Fist to clear the husks and use its air attack when the boss jumps at you to iframe through it; it’s safer than trying to dash it and you’ll get some chip for good measure.
Nothing stopping you from coming back later either; I did both optional Junk Pit bosses right away but neither of them seemed like they were meant to be fought immediately.

[erik]

I deleted the game in despair it just felt unfair.. like when the boss turns around and he flips so you are suddenly standing in the skull theres just no way to predict or react.. before this i did all the fromsoft ones and ppl say they are the hardest games on earth-ish, everything is about reacting before you even realised what happened, or u die. This here is different, you jump up and a energy spear hits you from outside the frame while you are in the animation, the skullguy jumps from too far away for me to be able to run/dodge under or jump/dodge over or through. These bosses are just really erratic. Some players beat them though so i gues its a unusually infuriating git gud situation.. I think ive done everything its just the red ship-part and this chainskull robot. Metroidvanias are my favourite category also completed blasphemous and many other "hard" ones but none of them never made me loose interest like this boss

[Xhyra]

Double jumps and air dash is your friend here, fighting him on the ground is suicide. Wall jump when he spazzes out and he's a joke.

[Catovitch]

I found it very hard at first but then changed tactics (jump plus dash as he swings, then dash away before he puts the skull where you just landed) and the fight was fine.

Game seems very fair so far, it’s just it will ruin your health very quickly if you do the wrong things sometimes.

[Zeke & Sil]

Blast him with bloblings or Missiles, dash through his attacks unless it's the continuous flailing one.

[DarkFalzX]

I don't mind hard games with hard bosses, but I hate bosses that waste my time. The Ogre was that boss - a massive time-waster, and a huge difficulty spike in an otherwise pretty easy game. Not only is the run-back to him difficult, but it's also, like, 10-15 minutes! Then the boss kills you in three hits, and you repeat the runback.
You fight him in a swamp, which messes up your dash, so the only way to avoid him is to jump-dash, but his collision is so massive, you end up getting hit anyway.
The decision to populate the arena with endlessly re-spawning husks was a terrible one too, but the fact you get a save/repair-point right AFTER killing him and not before is just an insult to injury.

This is the boss where after wasting 3 hours trying to kill him, I broke out the Cheat Engine.

[per.ludos.vita]

Originally posted by DarkFalzX:

I don't mind hard games with hard bosses, but I hate bosses that waste my time. The Ogre was that boss - a massive time-waster, and a huge difficulty spike in an otherwise pretty easy game. Not only is the run-back to him difficult, but it's also, like, 10-15 minutes! Then the boss kills you in three hits, and you repeat the runback.
You fight him in a swamp, which messes up your dash, so the only way to avoid him is to jump-dash, but his collision is so massive, you end up getting hit anyway.
The decision to populate the arena with endlessly re-spawning husks was a terrible one too, but the fact you get a save/repair-point right AFTER killing him and not before is just an insult to injury.

It is possible to approach that save point from the opposite side, so people who are having trouble can hold off on fighting Elsom until they get to the point in the game where they're able to reach the save point. Then you can fight him after saving at that point, and you'll be literally next door if you die. That's actually what I ended up doing during my first playthrough, albeit unintentionally.

[iAmTurok]

Ogre boss is fine and I don't even play Souls game. You need to figure out the dodging strat, which is simple.
When he jumps and swings at you, jump and dash through him.
If he only swings at you, same, jump and dash through him.
Then you can turn around and melee him once, then jump and dash away. Or just use range attacks to be safe.

Also, fight him only after getting the ship part that's left of the junk pit shaft. This way you'll be coming in from the left of the room, where you have a save and a statue.

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by DarkFalzX:

I don't mind hard games with hard bosses, but I hate bosses that waste my time.

If The Ogre was a required boss, I'd agree with you, but he's not. He's completely optional, the only thing you get for beating him is a module, and later it's possible to approach him from the other side, which has a save point right next to him. It's fine for him to be the hardest boss in the game.

[Shiro]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

If The Ogre was a required boss, I'd agree with you, but he's not. He's completely optional,

heh for me he stopped being optional as soon as I died to him once. That nanogel grave/tree was all but mandatory for me to get :) Did venture in the other directions to find some more upgrades and healcores first, tho

[gungadin22000]

Not killed the Ogre yet, but I kinda expected there to be some way to drain the sludge in his boss arena before fighting him, making movement easier. Turns out that's not the case. Feels like a bit of a wasted opportunity to me.

[lowkey]

let the blobs kill him and just don't get hit

[CUD]

Originally posted by lowkey:

let the blobs kill him and just don't get hit

True gamer strats. I used the skab device so they did most of the damage.

[Morpheus]

gamers still having issue with this boss: aim for the head, even if you are on mouse and keyboard, jump so you are horizontally aligned with the head it does more damage than shooting at the feets and you dont need to aim, just jump and shoot, also jump and dash over his head on normal attacks and stay a little away back after you dashed so he doesnt hit you with the big skull
after all it was a hard boss to learn, but once you learn the strategy and when and how to dash is a fair boss
and for the future bosses, you might encounter ones that are so difficult that you think it might be randomly way too harder, thats when you need to change your strategy, use other modules, use other weapons, try different strategy, i had issues defeating Henriette the second time, after changing weapon and modules i did massive damage and killed her in like 2 tries, it took me 10-15 tries to understand that i had the wrong modules-weapon
just try different things

[erik]

Uh.. i deleted this but gave it another go and killed skull super easily taking almost no damage.. unlike before the dodge suddenly dodged through the guy. Im quite sure i did it the exact same way as before but instead of not dodging and getting stuck in the boss my blue robot just sailed through the boss. As dodges should. Was it updated? Was i updated? Who knows who cares the skull is dead!