Why would you spend any angels on "Angel Upgrades"?

[Walker]

Aren't the angels worth more per 2% than any of the upgrades? It cost 10,000 angels (20,000% increase) for a x3 profits (300% increase). The only thing I can think of, is it factors in angels first, then it x3's. Am I missing something here?

[Squigzy]

10,000 Angels (20,000%) for 3x. But if you have 100,000 Angels (200,000%) and Sacrifice the %20,000 your Angels go to 180,000% and then the x 3 gets added so yoy get 540,000% (sort of).... Or thats how it seems to work..... I don't math well.. But I am an Octovigintillionaire in the game with some 16 Undecillion Angel Investors. and I need to do a reset...

[Sauvagess]

You can eventually spend angels to buff the angel effect to 20% instead of just 2%
Also, you get total profit multipliers, and then you start gaining so many angels that it's trivial. Eventually you'll have like 3 billion angels and spending 10,000 angels for x3 isn't even anything to bat an eye at.

Basically hit Quick Buy and see what gets bought and what's left behind. It generally never spends more than 10% of your total angels, though sometimes you'll want to do so anyways. (i.e. x11 profit bonus for 1 quatradecillion when you have 8 quatradecillion angels)

[Hyper Hippo Productions]

We usually recommend only spending 10% of your AI at a time!

[Oberon's Top Guy]

Originally posted by Hyper Hippo Productions:

We usually recommend only spending 10% of your AI at a time!

Hey great Hippo King I have but one thing I want you to answer.
Do the angel upgrades carry over when you reset or do ALL the upgrades reset including the 10,000 angel sacrifice?

[Russ]

All upgrades reset.

[Regime]

Originally posted by Russ:

All upgrades reset.

:(

[Squigzy]

Intelligent Upgrade uses Angel Investments to double or tripple your income, meaning you gain Angels at an exponential rate.

[leqesai]

But if you sacrifice angels they're gone forever and are not revived when you restart, correct?

And the formula for unlocking more angels is reset when you restart or does the formula continue throughout restarts?

[Aradesh3K]

All upgrades reset each time you reset, but it won't really hurt you. You'll be making money so fast, that you'll earn back the sacrificed angels and more faster than you even notice.

[sunkbunk]

i would just keep the angels too

[Mox Fulder]

Don't keep the angels, invest 5-10% of your total each playthrough, and you'll make more in less time.

[Raenef]

do the angel manager reset like the normal do? (i am on the first reset)

[ShawnMcCool]

Think about it..

For example.. Angel upgrade -1000 angels for x3 all profits.

1000 angels * .06 (for 6 times upgrade) = 60% improvement to all profit.

Versus 300% improvement to all profit from the x3 upgrade.

[xXx]

Originally posted by ShawnMcCool:

Think about it..

For example.. Angel upgrade -1000 angels for x3 all profits.

1000 angels * .06 (for 6 times upgrade) = 60% improvement to all profit.

Versus 300% improvement to all profit from the x3 upgrade.

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[isblueacolor]

I thought the same thing, but angels multiply your base earnings by 1.02 (2%), while the 3x multiplier applies to your total earnings. So as long as you have enough angels increasing your total earnings, the 3x is worth the 10,000 angel reduction.

Suppose your base earnings (earnings ignoring the effects of angels) is B. And the number of angels you have is A. Then your total earnings (factoring in angels) is

B * (1 + A * .02)

If you spend 10,000 angels, your new earnings are

B * (1 + (A - 10,000) * .02) = B * (1 + A * .02 - 200) = B * (1 + A * .02) - 200*B

so the 10,000 angels costs you 200*B.

But in exchange, you get the 3x multiplier, which means you gain 2x your new earnings, so you gain

2 * (B * (1 + A * .02) - 200*B) = B * (2 + A * .04) - 400*B = B * (A * .04 - 398)

If A is high enough, then you gain more than you lose:

200*B = B * (A * .04 - 398) --> A = (200 + 398) / .04 = 14,950

So if you have 14,951 or more angels, sacrificing 10k angels for the 3x multiplier is a net positive.