Profit bonus per angel??

[BISTOR]

There is something i never understood.
What are the angels doing? For example, if it says in Investors "10% profit bonus per angel", each angel gives a +10% of profit? If u have 1 duodecillon, are they giving +(10 duodecillons)% profilt? This means it has no sense in this case to spend 1000 angels in a Upgrade like "All profits x9" even if u have duodecillons of them, because they are giving u x100. What i am missing?

[Alex]

10% mean 10%

[BISTOR]

Originally posted by Max Caulfield:

10% mean 10%

This is my last message to you. You have been blocked, refrain any further tries to spoil my questions. Again, if you dont want to help just go away.

[Alex]

Originally posted by BISTOR:

Originally posted by Max Caulfield:

10% mean 10%

This is my last message to you. You have been blocked, refrain any further tries to spoil my questions. Again, if you dont want to help just go away.

lol. not my fault you cant understand simple math

[BISTOR]

i just saw the "help of above" popup saying "Every angel gives u a minimum profit of 2% (x0.02)"
Then 10.000 angels gives u x20 profit
Then WHY IN EARTH would even consider purchasing something like "sacrifice 50 duodecillons angels for x9 profit" Which means changing a x500000000...% profit for a x9%
The case is that I purchased it and its faster!
What i am missing? halp.

[intinet1]

I also dontrealy get all the math but it works out.
That may help https://www.reddit.com/r/AdventureCapitalist/comments/4gk498/10000_angels_for_3x_profits_doesnt_make_any/

also don´t buy angel upgrades as long as the upgrade asks dou you realy want to do this it will cost xx% of angels , if it does not show a number its under 10% of angels and most times worth it ( check if you allready re earned the angels the ugrade costs) if it does not ask those few angels do not matter annymore.

[BISTOR]

Originally posted by intinet1:

I also dontrealy get all the math but it works out.
That may help https://www.reddit.com/r/AdventureCapitalist/comments/4gk498/10000_angels_for_3x_profits_doesnt_make_any/

also don´t buy angel upgrades as long as the upgrade asks dou you realy want to do this it will cost xx% of angels , if it does not show a number its under 10% of angels and most times worth it ( check if you allready re earned the angels the ugrade costs) if it does not ask those few angels do not matter annymore.

hahaha that guy is saying literally the same as me.
Thanks i'll take a read.

[Wryyyong]

Originally posted by BISTOR:

Then WHY IN EARTH would even consider purchasing something like "sacrifice 50 duodecillons angels for x9 profit" Which means changing a x500000000...% profit for a x9%
The case is that I purchased it and its faster!

Because the upgrade isn't +9%, it's a 9x multiplier. It multiplies your current profits by 9 (eg. if you were making $50000 off a single business per click, buying a 9x multiplier would boost it to $450000).

[BISTOR]

Originally posted by Wryyyong:

Originally posted by BISTOR:

Then WHY IN EARTH would even consider purchasing something like "sacrifice 50 duodecillons angels for x9 profit" Which means changing a x500000000...% profit for a x9%
The case is that I purchased it and its faster!

Because the upgrade isn't +9%, it's a 9x multiplier. It multiplies your current profits by 9 (eg. if you were making $50000 off a single business per click, buying a 9x multiplier would boost it to $450000).

x9 is like +900% (100% + 100%... = 9x100%)
1000 angels at +2% profit per angel = +2000%
so there is no sense to purchase anything that spend more than 1K angels in such profit.
Obv something is wrong and i dont understand where.

[Wryyyong]

Originally posted by BISTOR:

x9 is like +900% (100% + 100%... = 9x100%)
1000 angels at +2% profit per angel = +2000%

No no no, the multipliers don't add onto existing ones, they multiply each other. In other words, they stack.

For example, if you had 10000 angels, and sacrificed 1000 for a 9x upgrade:

(a) = Actual Angels
(ae) = Equivalent Angels (a representation of how many angels you'd need to reach a certain multiplier without upgrades)

1) 10000(a) = 20000% = x200
2) 10000(a) - 1000(a) = 9000(a)
3) 9000(a) = 18000% = x180
4) After sacrificing the angels, the multiplier gets applied
    * 9000(a) x 9 = 81000(ae)
    * 18000 x 9 = 162000
    * 180 x 9 = 1620
    * 81000(ae) = 162000% = x1620

While you'd lose 1000 angels in the process, the multiplication from the upgrade would be so significant that the cost is worthwhile.

Since all of the multipliers stack on top of each other no matter the order you get them in, buying a 9x multiplier upgrade would boost your profits to the point where it would be equivalent to having 9 times your current angel count.

[76561199057667449]

Originally posted by BISTOR:

i just saw the "help of above" popup saying "Every angel gives u a minimum profit of 2% (x0.02)"
Then 10.000 angels gives u x20 profit
Then WHY IN EARTH would even consider purchasing something like "sacrifice 50 duodecillons angels for x9 profit" Which means changing a x500000000...% profit for a x9%
The case is that I purchased it and its faster!
What i am missing? halp.

Let's say you have 100,000 angels at 2% each. That is a 2,001x multiplier. If you spend 10,000 on all profits x3, your multiplier changes to (2,001 - 200)*3 = x5,403.

In other words, the effects of angels and upgrades bought with them multiply with each other.

[BISTOR]

Originally posted by TheRichCapitalist:

Originally posted by BISTOR:

i just saw the "help of above" popup saying "Every angel gives u a minimum profit of 2% (x0.02)"
Then 10.000 angels gives u x20 profit
Then WHY IN EARTH would even consider purchasing something like "sacrifice 50 duodecillons angels for x9 profit" Which means changing a x500000000...% profit for a x9%
The case is that I purchased it and its faster!
What i am missing? halp.

Let's say you have 100,000 angels at 2% each. That is a 2,001x multiplier. If you spend 10,000 on all profits x3, your multiplier changes to (2,001 - 200)*3 = x5,403.

In other words, the effects of angels and upgrades bought with them multiply with each other.

thanks but then for example the manager of Quick All Upgrades button 33 billion, are we renouncing a profit of more than x1000000 just for such button (more or less, u got the idea)? There is no sense. Does this mean that if we do 1 novemsexagintillon per second and we buy that button, we will downgrade our profits to euhhhh 1 septasexagintillon per second?

[76561199057667449]

Originally posted by BISTOR:

Originally posted by TheRichCapitalist:

Let's say you have 100,000 angels at 2% each. That is a 2,001x multiplier. If you spend 10,000 on all profits x3, your multiplier changes to (2,001 - 200)*3 = x5,403.

In other words, the effects of angels and upgrades bought with them multiply with each other.

thanks but then for example the manager of Quick All Upgrades button 33 billion, are we renouncing a profit of more than x1000000 just for such button (more or less, u got the idea)? There is no sense. Does this mean that if we do 1 novemsexagintillon per second and we buy that button, we will downgrade our profits to euhhhh 1 septasexagintillon per second?

No. If you were to have 1 Trillion angels (to give an example) which is +2 Trillion% profit and spent 33 Billion on Quick Buy, you'd have 967 Billion left (+1.934 Trillion% profit), which isn't much of a decrease. At higher amounts of angels, the decrease is inconsequential.