Flux Capitalor vs 3x boost

[Heckin' Wes]

Are there any guides showing which is more effective? And how they stack up to each other? Kind of confused as to why you should pay more for it vs the 3x upgrade.

[Heckin' Wes]

inb4 "don't spend money on this game it's a waste", & "Just cheat"

Sorry for wanting to support developers :|

[DigDug]

Short answer; the flux capitalor and the 3x boost are multiplicative. If you are going to spend five dollars on the game the capitolator is not worth it. If you are putting more money into the game you can figure out if it is worth it by calculating the gain rate of straight 3x vs 3x plus one capitolator, etc.

[T-wRecks]

First off, it would take truly massive (beyond whale-level) spending to actually get all of the achievements as it stands now, so it's likely not worth it beyond tipping the developers. Tipping them for a game you can't finish. With that said...

afaik, the flux capacitor is always multiplicative, but the 3x is definitely additive with itself. Since you can buy 2 3x upgrades for each flux capacitor, the breakpoint to switch over to flux capacitors would be after x30. x36 from x30 would only be an overall x1.2 vs. x1.21 per flux capacitor, and the multipliers would continue to get worse. So, multipliers to x30, flux capacitors from then on out. Unless you just want one early for the swag.

[archmag]

Originally posted by T-wRecks:

afaik, the flux capacitor is always multiplicative, but the 3x is definitely additive with itself. Since you can buy 2 3x upgrades for each flux capacitor, the breakpoint to switch over to flux capacitors would be after x30. x36 from x30 would only be an overall x1.2 vs. x1.21 per flux capacitor, and the multipliers would continue to get worse. So, multipliers to x30, flux capacitors from then on out. Unless you just want one early for the swag.

Actutally someone who bought those things mentioned that they work not as you expect them to work. Check this thread for some info: http://steamcommunity.com/app/346900/discussions/0/618463106371718800. He says that two of them give 242% bonus to speed, so each one is much more than just 21% increase. If you just multiply two of them as you would expect them to work: 1.21*1.21=1.46, only 46% bonus, not 242%. But I am still confused about how they work because his numbers for lasers weren't correct. So yeah, it's a mystery.

According to his explanations they give bonus to speed. So first one increases your profit by 221/100-1=121%, second by 342/221-1=55%, third by 463/342-1=35%, etc...
At the same time multipliers: first by 300/100-1=200%, second by 600/300-1=100%, third by 900/600-1=50%, etc... So optimal progression is: 1. one multiplier for 200% increase in income, 2. one capitalor for 121% increase in income, 3. one multiplier for 100% increase in income, 4. one capitalor for 55% increase in income, 5. one multiplier for 50% increase in income, ...
This is provided they cost the same, but I don't remember their actual cost.

Checked the actual prices - Capitalor costs 40 gold, while x3 multiplier 20 gold, so now we have:
x3 multipliers:
1st - 300/100-1=200%: 200%/20=10%/gold
2nd - 600/300-1=100%: 100%/20=5%/gold
1st and 2nd together: 600/100-1=500%: 500%/40=12%/gold
3rd - 900/600-1=50%: 50%/20=2.5%/gold
4th - 1200/900-1=33%: 33%/20=1.7%/gold
3rd and 4th together: 1200/600-1=100%: 100%/40=2.5%/gold
5th - 1500/1200-1=25%: 25%/20=1.25%/gold
6th - 1800/1500-1=20%: 20%/20=1%/gold
5th and 6th together: 1800/1200-1=50%: 50%/40=1.25%/gold
...

Capitalors:
1st - 221/100-1=121%: 121%/40=3%/gold
2nd - 342/221-1=55%: 55%/40=1.38%/gold
3rd - 463/342-1=35%: 35%/40=0.88%/gold

Result: 1. 1st and 2nd multiplier, 2. 1st capitalor, 3. 3rd and 4th multiplier, 4. 2nd capitalor, ...

[T-wRecks]

Wow, really? So essentially they messed up the description on Flux Capacitors if you're right. Why am I not surprised?

[archmag]

They did not mess it up. Description is "Great scott! This doodad boosts profit speed by 1.21!". You just need to understand that base speed is 1. So increase is 121% to speed per each Capitalor. The only problem is leqesai in that thread that I linked said "My laser shows the normal time: 3:00:00 but actually completes in like 1:20:00 or something like that" while with 242% speed boost it should be 180/342=00:52:37. So it's either he made a small mistake, or there is something more about them, I hope it's the first.

[T-wRecks]

It is messed up, from ambiguity if nothing else. There's no way to definitively and easily get that it additively increases profit speed by 1.21 from a base of 1 from that description. I presumed it was a multiplicative x1.21, which seems just as likely from the description. It's a *real money item*. How can they not make crystal clear what it does? Especially if the calculation for additive doesn't fit either.

[MarioVX]

Flux Capitalor is additive with itself, as are the Multiplier increases, but the two are multiplicative with each other.

So your global cash income multiplier from gold upgrades is (1+1.21*FC)*(GMult).

To judge, from your current gold upgrades, which option is the most efficient, divde this total cash income multiplier with a new setup in question by your old one and subtract 1, this is your bonus as a decimal fraction. Divide it by the gold cost, and you get bonus per gold. Compare your options and take the most efficient setup. :)

[Heckin' Wes]

Thanks for all the help guys :D

[Punkman]

Bought 3 flux capacitors. Best thing I done, the times moves much quicker than 1.21 or in my case 3 times 1.21.

Basically dont know the calculations but if it normally took 20 seconds to complete, the timer still says 20 seconds but in real world times it takes about 5 seconds...

the x12 multiplier is prob still better value, but i plan on spending more gold when i earn it on events and will put them towards more flux capacitors

[Qari]

This is an old thread but I need to clear up the confusion for future readers because this is a top result on google.

The way flux capitalors work is not clear from the wording so I'll explain. I had to search for it but the info is hidden out there. Then I bought some and the results matched up.

The very first one you buy increases times by 221%. I don't know if that's a bug or intended but that's the way it is. Buying just one is a huge speed improvement. The second adds 121% to that for a 342% boost. All the rest just add 121%.

To make it clear the original answer I found offered this table which shows how long a regular 24 hour cycle takes with FCs. It doesn't show an increase in numbers but you can measure it.

1 Flux Capitalor = 10hr 51min
2 Flux Capitalor = 7hr
3 Flux Capitalor = 5hr 11min
4 Flux Capitalor = 4hr 6min
5 Flux Capitalor = 3hr 24min
6 Flux Capitalor = 2hr 54min
7 Flux Capitalor = 2hr 32min
8 Flux Capitalor = 2hr 15min

[Zombie]

Originally posted by wam9000:

inb4 "don't spend money on this game it's a waste", & "Just cheat"

Sorry for wanting to support developers :|

Supporting developers that develop a good product they advertise honestly is commendable. AdVenture Capitalist is none of those things. It's impossible to beat earth in less than a million years or with less than a billion dollars of microtransactions.

If you're dumb enough to support that, have fun.