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Community Crunch 249: Winter Wonderland 5 and More!
Winter Wonderland 5, ARK II & ARK: The Animated Series, and More!

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nakbiz 2020 年 12 月 18 日 下午 3:36 
El server del rol que tenemos tiene la temática de Una sociedad de Vikingos que su líder le otorgo el nombre de su tribu como (Asgard) y luchan contra uno de los tres fuertes legionarios romanos en gran Bretaña conocida como (Camelot)

El Mercado, también conocido como El Laberinto de Creta, es un Lugar Neutral, y zona de intercambio entre ambos Reinos.

https://discord.gg/xcY5unMhCB
76561198269437875 2020 年 12 月 19 日 上午 9:03 
Wait ,wait,wait
Elliot Paige ("man") plays Victoria Walker (woman) ,wife of Helena Walker
So :
1. Helena is lesbian? :steamfacepalm:
2.How "man" plays woman? This is weird :winter2019neutralbulb:
Paladin Val 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:28 
引用自 DaRoS_PL
Wait ,wait,wait
Elliot Paige ("man") plays Victoria Walker (woman) ,wife of Helena Walker
So :
1. Helena is lesbian? :steamfacepalm:
2.How "man" plays woman? This is weird :winter2019neutralbulb:
Are you surprised these days. Media will tell you that everyone is gay when statistics show it's only like 5% of people. Nothing wrong with being gay just media over-corrected on girl power roles and gay people. It's becoming a trope. Also nothing wrong with girls.
最后由 Paladin Val 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 12:29
76561198269437875 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 1:42 
引用自 Val
引用自 DaRoS_PL
Wait ,wait,wait
Elliot Paige ("man") plays Victoria Walker (woman) ,wife of Helena Walker
So :
1. Helena is lesbian? :steamfacepalm:
2.How "man" plays woman? This is weird :winter2019neutralbulb:
Are you surprised these days. Media will tell you that everyone is gay when statistics show it's only like 5% of people. Nothing wrong with being gay just media over-corrected on girl power roles and gay people. It's becoming a trope. Also nothing wrong with girls.


This is just propaganda :winter2019sadbulb:
It is harmful for normal gays and lesbians
I hate it
M.R. Smith 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 1:59 
Yeah, and to me, Helena never came off as a married woman, to man or woman. Let me explain...

I've never been in this situation, so I'm just guessing here, but when you are married, and end up on a tropical island full of dinosaurs, your main priority is going to be, "I need to get back to my loved ones." But that is not what we see with Helena at all. With Helena, her only focus is studying the animals and cracking this sci-fi mystery she's found herself in. She really gives no thought for loved ones at all, which implies she doesn't have many.

If she were married to anyone, and yet decides it's more important to study the animals and discover hidden mysteries, then that would make Helena come off as selfish, self serving, and someone who has no regard for those important to them. That's more like Rockwell, not Helena. Helena is the exact OPPOSITE of that. Helena cares deeply about those who are close to her, and puts others well being above her own (just take a look at how she took a step into the unknown to try to save Mei-yin in Extinction). I just don't think that they can make Helena married to anyone period without changing tons of what we understand her as a character from the lore.

Also, they're calling Mei-yin a rebel leader, and... Mei-yin is NOT a rebel, go read through her explorer notes. In fact, I'll pull up the one that proves that she isn't a rebel right now...

"As I slept in the belly of the armored giant and the storm howled outside, I dreamed. I was home again, in our little village in the Yi Province. It was during the rebellion. Everyone was huddled together in an empty grainery, debating surrender. Arguments went back and forth until at last I stood, grabbed a spear, and made for the exit.

"See? Even this girl would rather die for her emperor than give in to that scum," one man declared.

"You're wrong," I replied, turning to face him. "I have no intention of dying. I will survive."

The others talked about our memories not being our own, that the home I sought for so long may have never existed at all. Perhaps that is true, but those words are mine, more than anything in the world. This is not the end. This is not where I fall.

I will survive!" ~Mei-Yin Explorer Note #14 Extinction
"See? Even this girl would rather die for her emperor than give in to that scum," one man declared.

So while she did fight in a rebellion, she was actually fighting against the rebels FOR her emperor. In fact, Mei-yin comes off as the type that would find it grossly dishonorable to rebel against the emperor. She was always a warrior of duty and loyalty.

I am actually looking forward to the animated series unironically, but these few little details make me worried about whether or not they're actually going to do the story justice. Hopefully I'm not disappointed, but it just comes off they don't actually understand the characters...
最后由 M.R. Smith 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:01
草木丨芯 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:10 
good job
Plum 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 7:17 
I wanna put a winter beanie on my otter, but the skin won’t show up on the hat once it’s back on her head 😫
Paladin Val 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 9:59 
引用自 DaRoS_PL
引用自 Val
Are you surprised these days. Media will tell you that everyone is gay when statistics show it's only like 5% of people. Nothing wrong with being gay just media over-corrected on girl power roles and gay people. It's becoming a trope. Also nothing wrong with girls.


This is just propaganda :winter2019sadbulb:
It is harmful for normal gays and lesbians
I hate it
I guess give me some context? Like you hate what I am saying about how companies see the general audience or you hate that I am against unrealistic lazy writing only there to tug at tropes that in actuality are stereotypes to put everything in a box to make people happy? Also who's agenda am I pushing? More gay people=less people=more adoptions=happier communities + healthier mother nature=happier me in every way.
最后由 Paladin Val 编辑于; 2020 年 12 月 19 日 下午 10:07
76561198269437875 2020 年 12 月 20 日 上午 1:36 
引用自 Val
引用自 DaRoS_PL


This is just propaganda :winter2019sadbulb:
It is harmful for normal gays and lesbians
I hate it
I guess give me some context? Like you hate what I am saying about how companies see the general audience or you hate that I am against unrealistic lazy writing only there to tug at tropes that in actuality are stereotypes to put everything in a box to make people happy? Also who's agenda am I pushing? More gay people=less people=more adoptions=happier communities + healthier mother nature=happier me in every way.

I hate when LGBT is inserted almost everywhere
M.R. Smith 2020 年 12 月 20 日 上午 11:26 
引用自 DaRoS_PL
引用自 Val
I guess give me some context? Like you hate what I am saying about how companies see the general audience or you hate that I am against unrealistic lazy writing only there to tug at tropes that in actuality are stereotypes to put everything in a box to make people happy? Also who's agenda am I pushing? More gay people=less people=more adoptions=happier communities + healthier mother nature=happier me in every way.

I hate when LGBT is inserted almost everywhere
I have absolutely nothing against the LGBTQ community, everyone who is a part of it that I've met are great people, but I agree.

To be perfectly honest, sexuality in general is just over emphasized in media these days, and it isn't good. It's clear that they are really just doing it for the sake of being progressive, even if it makes absolutely no sense in the narrative. I care about stories a lot, I have a passion for it, and it bothers me when it's clear they just throw something in for the sake of having it, no matter how out of place it seems. If you are going to put something into a story, it needs to serve an actual purpose to the story that's being told.
Shameful Unicorn 2020 年 12 月 20 日 下午 10:56 
They both jumped off the waterfall and didn't instantly die? Fake.
76561198269437875 2020 年 12 月 20 日 下午 11:26 
引用自 M.R. Smith
引用自 DaRoS_PL

I hate when LGBT is inserted almost everywhere
I have absolutely nothing against the LGBTQ community, everyone who is a part of it that I've met are great people, but I agree.

To be perfectly honest, sexuality in general is just over emphasized in media these days, and it isn't good. It's clear that they are really just doing it for the sake of being progressive, even if it makes absolutely no sense in the narrative. I care about stories a lot, I have a passion for it, and it bothers me when it's clear they just throw something in for the sake of having it, no matter how out of place it seems. If you are going to put something into a story, it needs to serve an actual purpose to the story that's being told.

Same
Putting a LGBT have to have sense in story ,not to put beacause "equality".
On the world there is no equality or justice.
Everyone is different
Someone is stronger,someone is more thin ,someone have more IQ.
So we can not be equal. We can be equal for law
M.R. Smith 2020 年 12 月 24 日 下午 1:24 
Unfortunately, nothing we say here will make a difference, cause the devs intentionally don't interact here. It just has me worried. These two generally small things foreshadow more problems with the series and continuity with what we actually see of the story in the game.
Paladin Val 2020 年 12 月 24 日 下午 2:19 
I mean she is the main char. IMO. Helena is like Cortana in Genesis and Waldo in the notes. She is also the poster child so they cannot mess her up.
M.R. Smith 2020 年 12 月 24 日 下午 3:50 
Well, with these types of things, the creators don't realize they are messing up the character, they think they are doing it a favor. Little do they know that adding random character traits that make no sense and contribute nothing to their character arc. Like I said, IF it contributes something to the characters greater story (take Mei-Yin for example, she falls in love with Diana and it furthers her character development) then great, go ahead and add it. But in the case of Helena, we already have a perfectly good character arc in place for her, and thus making her married at all, much less to a woman, simply doesn't add anything to her character or development, and in order to make it work we'd have to deconstruct what we know about Helena. It just becomes painfully obvious that they are trying to be progressive, and I get the appeal of that, but at the same time they already do that in Mei-Yins story (which they look set to botch up too, calling her a rebel when she wasn't), so in the end it just comes off a bit contrived.

Ultimately I guess my point is, every single part of a character, when you're telling a story, has to serve an actual purpose to the narrative. You can't just throw stuff in there. It all just makes me really worried, because it comes across as them not really understanding the characters from the Explorer Notes, the other big concern being the fact that, again, they call Mei-Yin a rebel leader when in reality if you look through the explorer notes, you'll find that's not the case. It just makes me wonder what other stuff they're going to mess up on.

Addendum: The fact that I care enough to write two paragraphs on this stuff indicates I need a life.
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