Is Genesis A New Survivor/Character?

[SMS König Albert]

I'm just wondering. Based on the ark lore, is Ark Genesis is a new Survivor or the same one that ventured through the Island until Extinction.

[Liralen]

Depends upon if you make a new character on it or transfer to it, as always.

[Auakopf]

You can play both. Originally, you enter Genesis with your ventured character (thus based on the lore). However, You can start each map with a new survivor instead.

The latter is how I play: My main survivor is on the Island and I have 3 different survivors distributed on 3 genesis-two servers just for the loot from the lootcrates. I then transfer the loot via the transmitters to the island map. That way I avoid my main character being stuck on the genesis servers just because the genesis-two servers crashed (which happens very often on gen-two).

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Depends upon if you make a new character on it or transfer to it, as always.

Originally posted by Auakopf:

You can play both. Originally, you enter Genesis with your ventured character (thus based on the lore). However, You can start each map with a new survivor instead.

The latter is how I play: My main survivor is on the Island and I have 3 different survivors distributed on 3 genesis-two servers just for the loot from the lootcrates. I then transfer the loot via the transmitters to the island map. That way I avoid my main character being stuck on the genesis servers just because the genesis-two servers crashed (which happens very often on gen-two).

The OP is asking from a -Lore- standpoint.....

[Liralen]

Yeah, I generally make a new character on new maps now. Then replace it with my main toon once the new toon gets into the grinding levels stage.

I play on dedicated unofficial servers where everyone is in the same tribe. I'm pretty much the only one left now, but I know the other players well enough that I can ask one of them to return to the new server where I made a new toon. They can then join the new server, and my new character can invite them into its tribe. Then I can transfer my main character over and that person can now invite it into the tribe.

That way my existing toon can access everything my new toon has there.

[william_es]

Maybe I'm just weird, but I always thought ALL the maps before you reach genesis 2 are just simulations. Genesis 1 is just upfront, they slap you in the face with it, and tell you outright it's a simulation. You aren't a flesh and blood person until you wake up in Genesis 2.

I always thought all the preceding maps were simulations too. But even I realize they show floating domed biospheres in some of the vids. And extinction is supposed to happen on the surface of earth. Then again, they could just be part of the simulation.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by retsam1:

The OP is asking from a -Lore- standpoint.....

Yes, you're right, I missed that part. However, if that is made clear, I missed that too.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by william_es:

Maybe I'm just weird, but I always thought ALL the maps before you reach genesis 2 are just simulations. Genesis 1 is just upfront, they slap you in the face with it, and tell you outright it's a simulation. You aren't a flesh and blood person until you wake up in Genesis 2.

I always thought all the preceding maps were simulations too. But even I realize they show floating domed biospheres in some of the vids. And extinction is supposed to happen on the surface of earth. Then again, they could just be part of the simulation.

My guess is that your specimen implant determines if the character is the same one that previously existed or not.

Edited Note: There are some theories that we are in a simulation in what we consider real life. Even if it's true, are we less real now? See, for example: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/confirmed-we-live-in-a-simulation/

For the record, I don't buy it. It's not scientific (and of course, the way Scientific American frames it, the author of the article doesn't believe it either). If one believes it might be true, then Pascal's wager must also be considered.

But the state that extreme physics is in, there is currently severe disagreement. Forces and or masses that we can observe and can prove aren't adding up. Another edit: Dark Energy and Dark Matter must exist to account for what we can observe, but neither has been proved, yet.

May the Force be with you.

[Auakopf]

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by Auakopf:

... (thus based on the lore) ...

The OP is asking from a -Lore- standpoint.....

I've read this and thought I had answered it, see my text in the brackets. Was my answer wrong in that point? :) thanks for clarifying :)

[SMS König Albert]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Yeah, I generally make a new character on new maps now. Then replace it with my main toon once the new toon gets into the grinding levels stage.

I play on dedicated unofficial servers where everyone is in the same tribe. I'm pretty much the only one left now, but I know the other players well enough that I can ask one of them to return to the new server where I made a new toon. They can then join the new server, and my new character can invite them into its tribe. Then I can transfer my main character over and that person can now invite it into the tribe.

That way my existing toon can access everything my new toon has there.

I'm currently repeating Ark from the island to genesis 2. I'm always using the same character, but now I want to try something new, the problem with making new characters is obviously the engrams, the map exclusive ones and ofc most of tekgrams of which can only be obtained through the Island.

[SMS König Albert]

Also at first I thought Genesis is a whole new character since in extinction we have returned to earth, but in genesis we're on the space. Though I'm not good at understanding the lore.

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor:

Originally posted by Liralen:

Yeah, I generally make a new character on new maps now. Then replace it with my main toon once the new toon gets into the grinding levels stage.

I play on dedicated unofficial servers where everyone is in the same tribe. I'm pretty much the only one left now, but I know the other players well enough that I can ask one of them to return to the new server where I made a new toon. They can then join the new server, and my new character can invite them into its tribe. Then I can transfer my main character over and that person can now invite it into the tribe.

That way my existing toon can access everything my new toon has there.

I'm currently repeating Ark from the island to genesis 2. I'm always using the same character, but now I want to try something new, the problem with making new characters is obviously the engrams, the map exclusive ones and ofc most of tekgrams of which can only be obtained through the Island.

Yeah, that's why after I get to the grinding stage, I then use my main toon. However, it's considered a different toon than the new toon you made. If you're playing unofficial or single player you can either do the workaround if multiplayer (invite a friend to the new toon's tribe, then they invite you) to gain access to everything your new toon made, or use admin commands to force claim them (which I found really tedious, but I suck at using admin commands).

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Auakopf:

Originally posted by retsam1:

The OP is asking from a -Lore- standpoint.....

I've read this and thought I had answered it, see my text in the brackets. Was my answer wrong in that point? :) thanks for clarifying :)

Your post had nothing to do with the story reasons(ie story canon lore) for why the character is on the ship. Your part as well in the parenthesis didn't clarify lore wise either.

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor:

Also at first I thought Genesis is a whole new character since in extinction we have returned to earth, but in genesis we're on the space. Though I'm not good at understanding the lore.

https://ark.fandom.com/wiki/Lore

Short gist of it, Arat Prime ( a location on the far side of earth from where the events of Extinction takes place) was the launching site a bit back in the past where the Terran Federation's Colony ship(Genesis 2's ship) was launched from seemingly. Arat Prime also had the capability to beam, even from great distances, people to the ark ship and that is supposedly how Rockwell got there after the aberration ark landed back to earth and then later after the simulation training for your character in Genesis 1 makes their way to the Colony ship.

So it would seem you can consider your character from Island through all maps to gen 2 to be the same if you wish.

However the same ship also has human storage data similar to the arks (and gen 1 simulation tek) where they can be replicated as well so you can also opt to think your character is new depending on which flexible way you wish to interpret and do things.

[Auakopf]

ah okay @retsam1 thank you very much :)

[Alessio]

after defeting king titan your char "ghost" get uploaded in the genesis 1 simulation before getting awaked in the genesis 2 real ship.

ARK logic.