Punching is OP

[Kebab Smuggler]

2 naked guys just knocked me and my friend out and killed us while we are fully geared. I hit one of them 7 times with a hatchet and 3 times with a bow and nothing.. then he punched me 9 times i get knocked out. Im not going to play anymore till devs fix it.

[Ultimate Fury]

weapons do need to do more damage, or the damage needs to scale up mre than it currently does when you get the better weapons.

Another problem is the players you fought may have put a lot of points into melee damage, which as I understand it increases the amount of torpor you deal to targets.

Hitting the head greatly increases the torpor level as well, so jumping around and being generally hard to hit would help too

[Ultimate Fury]

Originally posted by Ghostie:

okk that sounds lame and i thought about buying this game

just remember it is still in early access and all the features haven't been finished or balanced.

The knockout feature is what is used to tame dinos, it can also be used to incapacitate players. While it may need some work, if you know how to deal with the situation it isnt as big of a problem.

A slingshot works way better against players as 3 or so good hits to the head will knock them out.

fight smarter not harder.


This game is definitely worth buying, just some of the features take getting used to.

[dahbears]

I agree with you entirely. I believe that punching in PvP should NOT add Torpidity. It is stupid when with 10 points in fortitude and I get punched twice in PvP and I get knocked out, yet when I hit someone 4-6 times with a pike they still walk around fine.

[glaphen]

Use the white berries or stimulants to heal torpor damage, hit him with your weapons and do far more damage than he does torpor.

[Slayerjerman]

You can punch a trike and KO it in a good solid 5 or 6 blows at level 1. The trick is to punch it's rear and avoid the business end.

That being said, its even easier if you max out your melee damage so your punches do even more KO damage. Right now, melee damage and move speed are endgame stats.

[Blownout Stacey]

ahahah rofl rekt mate I'd pay to watch that

[dahbears]

The only time I ever use stimulants is to wake up tribe members in caves when they get knocked out. It doesnt change the fact that getting punched 2x does more than a strike from a metal spear. Real talk.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Dah Bears:

The only time I ever use stimulants is to wake up tribe members in caves when they get knocked out. It doesnt change the fact that getting punched 2x should do more than a pike strike.

So you know it removes torpor but refuse to use it for some unknown reason.

[Ultimate Fury]

Originally posted by Dah Bears:

I agree with you entirely. I believe that punching in PvP should NOT add Torpidity. It is stupid when with 10 points in fortitude and I get punched twice in PvP and I get knocked out, yet when I hit someone 4-6 times with a pike they still walk around fine.

it is all about understanding the way the game works.

I agree weapons need to be buffed, but punching someone in the head will knock them out if you hit them hard enough.

Just counter with slingshot or tranq arrows, they will go down before you do, especially with tranq arrows

as glaphen said, stim berries are a good way to combat torpidity build up, just slap them on your hot bar and you are set. unless they start using tranq arrows you should not be knocked out while using stim berries.

[dahbears]

Originally posted by Ultimate Fury:

Originally posted by Dah Bears:

I agree with you entirely. I believe that punching in PvP should NOT add Torpidity. It is stupid when with 10 points in fortitude and I get punched twice in PvP and I get knocked out, yet when I hit someone 4-6 times with a pike they still walk around fine.

it is all about understanding the way the game works.

I agree weapons need to be buffed, but punching someone in the head will knock them out if you hit them hard enough.

Just counter with slingshot or tranq arrows, they will go down before you do, especially with tranq arrows

as glaphen said, stim berries are a good way to combat torpidity build up, just slap them on your hot bar and you are set. unless they start using tranq arrows you should not be knocked out while using stim berries.

I totally agree that headshots should do more to knock someone out. But I also have been knocked out/punched people to KO in 2 hits while they were level 40 while obviously just running around in circles while the game rubberbands to ♥♥♥♥. So I think that the whole punching for torpididity mechanic needs to be fixed/changed til the devs find a better alternative for knocking people out with their fists in PvP. No QQ here though, I love this game either way ;)

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Dah Bears:

Originally posted by Ultimate Fury:

it is all about understanding the way the game works.

I agree weapons need to be buffed, but punching someone in the head will knock them out if you hit them hard enough.

Just counter with slingshot or tranq arrows, they will go down before you do, especially with tranq arrows

as glaphen said, stim berries are a good way to combat torpidity build up, just slap them on your hot bar and you are set. unless they start using tranq arrows you should not be knocked out while using stim berries.

I totally agree that headshots should do more to knock someone out. But I also have been knocked out/punched people to KO in 2 hits while they were level 40 while obviously just running around in circles while the game rubberbands to ♥♥♥♥. So I think that the whole punching for torpididity mechanic needs to be fixed/changed til the devs find a better alternative for knocking people out with their fists in PvP. No QQ here though, I love this game either way ;)

Devs already did something to fix it, they made easy to farm berries and stimulants that heal fist damage while also making weapons that do more and have more range.

[Ultimate Fury]

Originally posted by Dah Bears:

Originally posted by Ultimate Fury:

it is all about understanding the way the game works.

I agree weapons need to be buffed, but punching someone in the head will knock them out if you hit them hard enough.

Just counter with slingshot or tranq arrows, they will go down before you do, especially with tranq arrows

as glaphen said, stim berries are a good way to combat torpidity build up, just slap them on your hot bar and you are set. unless they start using tranq arrows you should not be knocked out while using stim berries.

I totally agree that headshots should do more to knock someone out. But I also have been knocked out/punched people to KO in 2 hits while they were level 40 while obviously just running around in circles while the game rubberbands to ♥♥♥♥. So I think that the whole punching for torpididity mechanic needs to be fixed/changed til the devs find a better alternative for knocking people out with their fists in PvP. No QQ here though, I love this game either way ;)

just hit someone with a tranq arrow lol. it takes one, maybe two shots and they are sound asleep, then narc em up and draq them into the ocean, that should teach them a lesson about ko punching others for no reason

[dahbears]

I mean, I have nothing else to say besides, you go out farming stuff, then a level 1 who just spawned rubberbands up to you, punches you and you are knocked out, regardless of the chitin armor or higher armor you are wearing or the 20% torpidity you applied. I get where the stimberries come in, but you cant say that someone who has a GTX 980 and still gets 5-20 fps on low with all console commands put in that lowers all the graphical needs can get knocked out by a new person who JUST joined the server naked and hits you 2x to knock you out. I believe ONLY Tranq arrows or other items with some sort of tranq applied should work in PvP. It may not be a widespread preference. But it's my preference along with my tribes. It doesnt KILL the game for me, but just discourages PvP unless I just fly one of my Pterosaurs and pick up people and drop them from a height. But I don't do that either because I feel thats just as bad as hitting a level 40 2x and knocking them out ;)

[dahbears]

But thank you all for the replies! I have no complaints about it, if it is intended, I will definitely learn to live with it! Just makes me a sad panda when it happens >_< lol

[A Big Huge Bear]

Just bow meele them. Its way op.