When you Tame, do you Starve it, First????? please advise!

[leftharted]

I have just been instantly putting the narco-berries and the respective food straight into the Dino's inventory as soon as I knock them out. But, I read in another forum that someone puts the Narco Berries in first, but lets their hunger drop all the way down before giving them their respective 'favorite' food etc etc..

is this necessary?? what does this do??? Does this help you keep the tame effectiveness higher or something?? that being said, what exactly does that effect??

im assuming that it gets the taming effectiveness higher, which grants you more 'tamed' experience every time the pet eats? am I understanding that correctly?? So, is it common practice to starve them First?

any/all info is appreciated.

[Gwenievre]

I read the same articles and am trying that method too. I don't know if it truly was any faster, but I liked how when you do start feeding, you see a very rapid improvement on the taming bar, versus a very slow growth on the taming bar if you start out with food

[Dawgs4ever]

Doesn't make a difference.

[Indure]

Taming only goes up when the creature eats. A full creature will proc it roughly every 30s when its hunger drops by around 50. A starving creature on the other hand will eat constantly until full, thus proccing and taming much faster. In general the overall timing is roughly the same since startving it takes a lot of time. Some people will knock a creature out, leave and let it wake up and then come by and knock it out again to get the starved state with little wasted time.

I have also heard you can promote starving by feeding the creature the wrong food type, thus making the taming process go much quicker.

[Pattisaurusrex]

My husband does the starving method, I do not.

He says it seems faster because it happens all at once, HOWEVER, he does need to wait around for the hunger to drop & keeping it under. He says he doubts it actually is faster due to the wait times and the babysitting to keep them doped up.

[Kermit The Turd]

starving first makes it appreciate the food more and thus tames quicker

[KOACH]

I'll post what I know
Taming meter only goes up when they eat food on their own out of their inventory, and they'll only eat food they like. They won't eat narcoberries, predators won't eat berries, and herbivores won't eat meat. Herbivores seem to each have a "favorite" color of berry that will tame them quicker, and prime meat (harvested from stego's, rarely, and anything bigger) is more effective for carnivores.
Narcoberries fill up their hunger, and they only eat when they're sufficiently hungry, so if you fill them up on narcoberries, they won't be hungry and won't eat, so the taming meter won't go up.
Taming efficiency seems to increase the rate of taming but decreases over time, so making them skip meals with narcoberries will impact you. You want them to eat as often as possible. I'm not 100% sure about it though; I have only observed that it goes down with time, and I don't know what it does to the tamed create; the devs had said that it would effect them in the long run, but I haven't seen any effects. All my dinos respond to whistles regardless of even single digit taming efficiency. If anyone knows better, please say so
Narcotics are improved versions of the berries: they restore much more torpor per hit, and actually reduce their hunger instead of fill it.
Given that, it seems like it would be reasonably effective to starve them a little first, since that would mean they would eat more in succession and the bar would rise faster.
The one concern I have is that waiting for them to starve would reduce the taming efficiency meter appropriately, which would reduce how much the food you used was worth. We'll need to do testing to see which tames faster.

[Indure]

@KOACH: I don't think taming effectiveness goes down over time, the initial max seems to be based of the creatures health and how it was knocked-out. In my experience the taming efficiency drops only when the creature eats naturally.

[WastingSanity]

The best way to test it would be with a stop watch. On the same level and creature. Starving it takes a while.

[KOACH]

Originally posted by Indure:

@KOACH: I don't think taming effectiveness goes down over time, the initial max seems to be based of the creatures health and how it was knocked-out. In my experience the taming efficiency drops only when the creature eats naturally.

You're probably right, I'll watch more closely next time. What have you, or anyone else, found to be the most effective way to knock them out? If it really is based on health, it seems to me the scorpion would be the most effective, since you can sting them a couple of times and then just leave them to pass out on their own.

[ClippedWings22]

Originally posted by Dawgs4ever:

Doesn't make a difference.

yes , it does, starve it, it will eat faster and it will jumstart the taming process

[Intra]

The starving method is faster IF you force the dinosaur to lose hunger by FORCE FEEDING IT Narco Berries until it is low on hunger. Waiting for the hunger to be low doesn't seem that much more efficient. But FORCING it to be hungry does.

[Autrix]

Originally posted by jpqu:

Originally posted by Dawgs4ever:

Doesn't make a difference.

yes , it does, starve it, it will eat faster and it will jumstart the taming process

But the time it took to starve it factors in too.

????

TLDR: It doesn't make a difference.

[Renwold]

Stimulant makes creatures hungrier but wakes them up; if you have enough materials you should be able to alternate stimulant and narcotics to keep them eating constantly and tame very quickly, but I haven't been able to test this.

We tamed a turtle yesterday by starving it before feeding it anything, and I noticed that when we DID start the taming process it had a high taming effectiveness (85%ish); much higher than you would expect of something that you'd had knocked out for 15-20 minutes. The upshot of this is that even though your total time to tame is probably the same if you starve them, the initial boost to taming from them eating quickly MIGHT mean that the taming effectiveness will drop less during the process.

I really need to do some more testing though, usually I just get impatient and stop paying attention

[Indure]

Originally posted by KOACH:

Originally posted by Indure:

@KOACH: I don't think taming effectiveness goes down over time, the initial max seems to be based of the creatures health and how it was knocked-out. In my experience the taming efficiency drops only when the creature eats naturally.

You're probably right, I'll watch more closely next time. What have you, or anyone else, found to be the most effective way to knock them out? If it really is based on health, it seems to me the scorpion would be the most effective, since you can sting them a couple of times and then just leave them to pass out on their own.

I watch a stream the first day it was out and they hit a t-rex with 15 tranq arrows to experiment with what it would do. They ended up with a 99% taming effectiveness ... although I don't know if that is due to the arrows, or that a T-rex with 15 tranq arrows would have roughly 99% health still.

[Dawgs4ever]

Originally posted by jpqu:

Originally posted by Dawgs4ever:

Doesn't make a difference.

yes , it does, starve it, it will eat faster and it will jumstart the taming process

Ugh, no, it doesn't. All it does is speed up how quickly it tames after you've spent all that time starving it. It still ends up at the same place you would've been if you'd have been feeding it from the start.