Max movement speed can't outrun a raptor

[tomwithtime]

I leveled up a test character to see what the max movement speed would be. It was interesting, but I was sad to see with points solely into movement speed that a raptor still could stay on you and hit you as fast as it could as if you were standing still.

I get that the hint on the loading screen says you only need to outrun your friends, but with a base running speed I knocked out a dodo by punching it in the face and outran a raptor that stopped to feast on the unconscious dodo.

I think the movement speed gains should be a little more significant since base speed can outrun pretty much everything except a raptor and max movement speed yields the same outcome. I wouldn't mind movement speed being merged with crafting speed and becoming a general speed stat that made you move faster, craft faster, draw a bow faster, melee faster, etc.

But in the current state, it's not a very useful vanilla stat. I'm sure mods that increase stats / add more stats / reinvent stats will fix this, but as is I would advise that people on official servers avoid this stat since anyone on a raptor / a wild raptor can catch you no matter what level the stat is.

Mod tools pls. Gotta 'fix' singleplayer carry weight and run speed ;)

[Cookie]

Last I checked you shouldn't be outrunning a raptor. Once you get a mount, like a raptor, you have no need to worry about leveling your speed or the carry weight. All I do it hp

[Spills51]

There will be mods for your easymode gameplay soon enough. Just be patient.

[VbHD]

As said before, raptor working as intended. Also anyone who does build speed from what ive seen is going 50/50 stam/speed, obviously no point in running fast if your that chain smoker guy who cant make 100 metres without pausing.

[old mate]

Why would you expect to outrun a raptor?

[Indure]

I still don't get the weakness of speed. It allows you to travel between points faster; it allows you to fight better since your harder to hit; and it allows you escape 95% of circumstances. So what if you can't outrun one creature in the game?

If we are going to judge it based around the fact that it becomes inconsequential once you get a strong mount (for example a raptor), then almost all the attributes are inconsequential.

HEALTH: Always worthwhile since you can be targeted
STAMINA: worthless on a mount
OXYGEN: worthless in general as of now
FOOD: worthless on a mount, since most mounts can acquire food super easily and you use almost no energy riding.
WATER: Same as food, plus water satchels provide a lot of extra water.
WEIGHT: worthless on a mount
MELEE: worthless on a mount
SPEED: worhtless on a mount
FORTITUDE: Minor help
CRAFTING SPEED: meh
TORPOR: Similar to health, but only helpful in PVP.

[Ultimate Fury]

I would just get a raptor myself and then dump points into the raptor's speed and some into stamina (after you bump health and damage first). I would think it would give much more results per point.

I can't wait to get set up on my sp world, as I don't have much time to devote per day public servers really aren't an option for me, I can only play on a private server with a friend of mine.

[The_Lion_Turtle]

That's like saying you should be able to outrun a cheetah.

[tomwithtime]

That is the point lol. It's not that the stat has minimal impact - it has no impact. 60 points into movement speed and you're as effective on foot as you are at level 1.

Originally posted by NgloriousCookie:

Last I checked you shouldn't be outrunning a raptor. Once you get a mount, like a raptor, you have no need to worry about leveling your speed or the carry weight. All I do it hp

Play styles. Maybe I want to run along side my raptor army with a bow instead of ride them.

Originally posted by Spills51:

There will be mods for your easymode gameplay soon enough. Just be patient.

Counting on it. Raptor DNA injections incoming. I'd consider riding a level 1 t-rex at level 60 and killing mammoths and raptors in 1-3 hits more easy mode than frantically sprinting away from a raptor on a maxed out character built for speed. Do you really not see the difference there? What I'm suggesting is far from easy mode compared to what's already in game.

Originally posted by Zim Zim Zala Bim:

Why would you expect to outrun a raptor?

Because the character has 100% of the stat distribution into run speed. The point isn't just outrunning a raptor, the point is that you can outrun anything in this game at base speed, so the movement speed bonus is practically 0.

Is it really that hard of a concept to grasp that a stat that has no effect on gameplay is an issue? ._.

[oXYnary]

Not even an Olympic gold medalist in Marathon would be expected to ourun a raptor. Working as intended.

[tomwithtime]

Originally posted by oXYnary:

Not even an Olympic gold medalist in Marathon would be expected to ourun a raptor. Working as intended.

Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson alive right now can carry 1433 pounds and we can only carry 100 in game. I don't think the devs are basing these 'humans' on actual humans, not even a little bit. But still, there should be awareness that at base speed you can outrun everything except raptors... that's why I was trying to make a 100% movement speed character, to outrun everything.

If you can outrun everything except raptors at level 0 and level 60, why put points into it at all? That's the question.

[DeadTomLives]

It doesn't have no effect on gameplay, it has (in your opinion, which I think is wrong for a variety of reasons) no effect on gameplay in singleplayer.

Unless they're riding raptors, you can very easily outrun other players with a speed-based build, this is obvious from my experience with a 110% movement speed build, I routinely leave my tribemates in the dust with just that much of a bonus just jogging around, nevermind sprinting, so your entire reasoning is specious and predicated upon the metric that you should be able to outrun everything in the entire game.

First of all, you can't outrun carnos at level 1--or at least I can't, with 110% at 28 or so--so the argument that it doesn't do anything between level 1 and 60 is totally outright wrong if you can outrun carnos at level 60 with all points in speed.

That wouldn't make a lick of difference to me since you'll still be outrunning other players unless they're on fast mounts like raptors, at which point, well, of course you can't outrun them. They're on horses with knives on them.

[Intra]

You probably want a few points just to outrun other players, and then put the rest in stamina because sprinting is the one thing humans do better than other animals. Except GrandAvis, who has more stamina and is as fast, but doesn't sprint after you at least.

[RetroReplicant]

Not even Usain Bolt could outrun a Raptor, so your toon should not be able to as well.

[tomwithtime]

Originally posted by Cancerus Maximus:

It doesn't have no effect on gameplay, it has (in your opinion, which I think is wrong for a variety of reasons) no effect on gameplay in singleplayer.

Unless they're riding raptors, you can very easily outrun other players with a speed-based build, this is obvious from my experience with a 110% movement speed build, I routinely leave my tribemates in the dust with just that much of a bonus just jogging around, nevermind sprinting, so your entire reasoning is specious and predicated upon the metric that you should be able to outrun everything in the entire game.

First of all, you can't outrun carnos at level 1--or at least I can't, with 110% at 28 or so--so the argument that it doesn't do anything between level 1 and 60 is totally outright wrong if you can outrun carnos at level 60 with all points in speed.

That wouldn't make a lick of difference to me since you'll still be outrunning other players unless they're on fast mounts like raptors, at which point, well, of course you can't outrun them. They're on horses with knives on them.

I play singleplayer primarily and will move toward lan / pve when more friends get the game. Working together, I have no need to outrun other players. When I'm being chased by something I don't even bother trying anymore, I just knock out a nearby weak animal that draws their attention away.

Meh, modding will fix this for singleplayer & lan, so if it doesn't bother anyone on official servers, then fine. Instead of increasing the effectiveness of the stat (since they're so minor even if you put all your points into them) it'd be nice if instead there were skills granted by reaching certain points.

As a solo player who will mod their game to ruin (or to expand it like minecraft), this is a non-issue. Sorry for wasting your collective time :P

[LvlNine]

I have a character with 150% movement speed and I can outrun any wild Dino. maybe there was a patch recently or you arnt running around rocks to slow the but I find its easy to get away from all dinos.plus the tribe down the beach has raptor and Saber mounts and I can always book it away from them if they come at me. did something change in the game or am I doing something you arnt? 150% movement speed. 170 stamina.