ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

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RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:29pm
You can't ban all the players for Duping.
They can go ahead and check my logs /brushes shoulder. I'm clean as could be. However, realistically you can't ban everyone who was duping, as many tribes only duped in response to other tribes duping. If you were competing on your server and your enemy suddenly started duping, you were put into a position where you either duped to maintain relevancy or you lost your position on that server entirely. In a competitive situation, losing due to a game(or server?) flaw is unacceptable. In fact, it would be unintelligent to not take advantage of the same issues your enemies were. It would literally be opting to lose.

This is in regards to the post created by The Right Hand

"TheRightHand [developer] 11 hours ago
With regards to the duping issue/wipes.
We'll let you know when we have made a decision about this. It'll be discussed when everyone is available to discuss it on Monday. (That's in about 24-28 or so hours from this post.)

There's no more to say on the matter, all of the people required to make this decision are not currently available to discuss it, so it will wait until we're able to.

Thanks for your patience!

- The Right Hand."
Last edited by RamblingRob; Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:33pm
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Dazrix Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:31pm 
What are we referring to when you say 'duping'?
Sushi Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:31pm 
Just by you posting you already admitted yourself *clap*
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Dazrix:
What are we referring to when you say 'duping'?
TheRightHand [developer] 11 hours ago
With regards to the duping issue/wipes.
We'll let you know when we have made a decision about this. It'll be discussed when everyone is available to discuss it on Monday. (That's in about 24-28 or so hours from this post.)

There's no more to say on the matter, all of the people required to make this decision are not currently available to discuss it, so it will wait until we're able to.

Thanks for your patience!

- The Right Hand.
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Jack:
Just by you posting you already admitted yourself *clap*
TheRightHand [developer] 11 hours ago
With regards to the duping issue/wipes.
We'll let you know when we have made a decision about this. It'll be discussed when everyone is available to discuss it on Monday. (That's in about 24-28 or so hours from this post.)

There's no more to say on the matter, all of the people required to make this decision are not currently available to discuss it, so it will wait until we're able to.

Thanks for your patience!

- The Right Hand.
Bloodspawn Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:34pm 
That sounds like a excuse from professional athletes and children.. everyone else did it I need a competitive edge... BAN EM ALL .... Cheaters deserve that at a bare minimium.. at the very least ban steam name from public servers.
Sai Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:36pm 
I doubt people will get banned for non-third party exploiting in an alpha test. These are the things they look for to fix.
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by Bloodspawn:
That sounds like a excuse from professional athletes and children.. everyone else did it I need a competitive edge... BAN EM ALL .... Cheaters deserve that at a bare minimium.. at the very least ban steam name from public servers.
Except... this is a game... a game in testing I might add. Not real life where your morals actually matter (or how well you're able to hide your dirt)
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Sai:
I doubt people will get banned for non-third party exploiting in an alpha test. These are the things they look for to fix.
I actually don't think they will too. This was to be suspected. it's not like it was Aimbot. However, a lot of people will be demanding bans.
Whiplash Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:37pm 
No one is going to be banned, people need to chill out. Shouldn't even be a big concern to you, unless maybe you did it.
Damedus Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Gamer_Freak316:
They can go ahead and check my logs /brushes shoulder. I'm clean as could be. However, realistically you can't ban everyone who was duping, as many tribes only duped in response to other tribes duping. If you were competing on your server and your enemy suddenly started duping, you were put into a position where you either duped to maintain relevancy or you lost your position on that server entirely. In a competitive situation, losing due to a game(or server?) flaw is unacceptable. In fact, it would be unintelligent to not take advantage of the same issues your enemies were. It would literally be opting to lose.

This is in regards to the post created by The Right Hand

"TheRightHand [developer] 11 hours ago
With regards to the duping issue/wipes.
We'll let you know when we have made a decision about this. It'll be discussed when everyone is available to discuss it on Monday. (That's in about 24-28 or so hours from this post.)

There's no more to say on the matter, all of the people required to make this decision are not currently available to discuss it, so it will wait until we're able to.

Thanks for your patience!

- The Right Hand."
sure you can, taking advantage of a flaw cause someone else is makes no diference in a crime. its like having a unlisenced gun and using it in self defence, you wont get away with self defence since you used a tool that was not legal in your hands. its simple winning or loosing has nothing to do when asking yourself should i go as low as my enemy just to stay in the fight? they should just ban all dupers delete all duped items and let everyone who didnt dupe play normaly.
Last edited by Damedus; Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:40pm
Kaleido Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:40pm 
I like pie.

I'm in the world of having a tiny little private server. I love reading this ♥♥♥♥. News to me.
Dazrix Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:40pm 
Ok, in fairness to the guy, it is alpha, so he shouldn't be banned. He should be rewarded for pointing it out. Like a thank you from devs. But! Continued use should be bannable.

Just cause you're opponents are doing it, doesn't mean it's ok. Silly excuse.

I seem to have missed the whole duping thing. So I'm wondering what 'duping' referred to. Did you dupe dinos, or items? Cause that'd be cool. What did we 'dupe'?
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Whiplash:
No one is going to be banned, people need to chill out. Shouldn't even be a big concern to you, unless maybe you did it.

Tbh... things kept going the way they were, I would've started to. When your enemies show up with an unlimited supply of c4.... Well all the ****s go out the window.

I don't think they'll ban either, but man it sure is all over the forums. I just wanted to explain to people another perspective. There's another good 2 or 3 I could add too, but man that'd been a long read. Perhaps they would've been better arguments from a moral standpoint though. xD
Sushi Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:42pm 
I already know about his post and been referring people to it on the matter. you don't know what they are going to talk about on monday other then a wipe and a fix for the dupe. The Right hand is 1 of many people who will discuss that subject and they all will make the final judgment on the matter. When you see people make post like this your pretty much Oping Yourself out to the community trying to justify your actions in hope if they do ban people you wont be one of them.
but the game is EA so you really should not worry and if you are play on Unofficial servers.
Last edited by Sushi; Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:45pm
RamblingRob Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:42pm 
Originally posted by Dazrix:
Ok, in fairness to the guy, it is alpha, so he shouldn't be banned. He should be rewarded for pointing it out. Like a thank you from devs. But! Continued use should be bannable.

Just cause you're opponents are doing it, doesn't mean it's ok. Silly excuse.

I seem to have missed the whole duping thing. So I'm wondering what 'duping' referred to. Did you dupe dinos, or items? Cause that'd be cool. What did we 'dupe'?
I'm only away of items. And it may have been limited in it's way, i'm not entirely sure myself. I know you could dupe materials and that is by far the biggest issue here. Unlimited ammo anyone? lol
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Date Posted: Jun 21, 2015 @ 11:29pm
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