Fertilizer :(

[Theduke]

Can you guys make fertlizer make it's self faster please i'm heavy into gardening and it takes so long i can't keep up with my plots i have 7 bins going and it's still not fast enough for my 12 large plots not asking for a easy way out just a bit faster

[Dies Fourth]

Will they speed up depending on what size poop you use ?

[Telerion]

7 Bin`s? 12 Plots?
You are doing something wrong, i have 3 Bin`s and 16 plots and have a large Box full of fertilizers as reserve and put every new one into the plots. They never drop lower then 20k fertilization. Only when i ignore the fertilizer production for a longer time i need to use my reseve.

[BigDally]

Gonna need many more compost bins going at once, with plenty of thatch and dino poop stocked at all times.

[Theduke]

I'm using all larger poops have tons of thatch it's just idk seems like its going mad slow maybe my ratio is off

[Dragorin]

I have 5 bins supporting 25 Medium plots. 3 poo of any size(I don't mix smalls with Med and Large though) and 50 thatch will make a bag of fertilizer in like 1 in game day. I fill my bins up when I get online and every time I'm in the base I pick up poo and drop it in. I keep at least 2 bags of fertilizer in each plot at all times. It only seems slow if you sitting there watching it all the time. I'm keeping ahead of the game but just barely.

[Theduke]

so its 50 to 3 poops?

[Frutz]

Wait, so you can use 3 small poo's and 50 thatch and it'll make fertilizer? I don't know if this has been patched in or what but lately I have been able to put the med and large poo directly into the crop plot. The values are human = 1000, small = 3500, medium = 7500, large = 15000.

If you're doing 3 large poo's in the compost bin you're really only gaining 5000 more fert at the cost of 50 thatch and the time it takes. You might be better off to just put those large poos straight into the crops and use med poos. When I log on I'll have to try the small poo or human poo thing because if that works then obviously taking 3 human poo worth a total of 3000 fert and converting it to 50,000 via fertilizer bag will be the most efficient.

Another thing I am scratching my head about is I don't get the point of irrigation. I have never had my plots run out of water from just simply the rain alone. I start off my plots when they're first planted with two waterskin's worth of water and I never have to fuss about their water from that point on. One of my tribemates screwed around with irrigation near some of the plots and it caused a few of them to be irrigated and there was no increase in yield, or speed of yield. I am just not seeing a point at all unless I am missing something. It seems like people go crazy making irrigation systems that are really unneeded for their farms.

[Zourin]

Nothing like sitting around watching poop dry.

[Telerion]

Originally posted by BG79:

Another thing I am scratching my head about is I don't get the point of irrigation. I have never had my plots run out of water from just simply the rain alone. I start off my plots when they're first planted with two waterskin's worth of water and I never have to fuss about their water from that point on. One of my tribemates screwed around with irrigation near some of the plots and it caused a few of them to be irrigated and there was no increase in yield, or speed of yield. I am just not seeing a point at all unless I am missing something. It seems like people go crazy making irrigation systems that are really unneeded for their farms.

Well, your crops will "degenerate" from Fruitling to Growling to midling and so on if they dont get fertilized OR watered over a longer time. I don´t have the exact time for that, but it happen. I once came back to my base and the irrigation system was broken, all crops had no water anymore and they all degenerated to "Midling". Yu don´t have this problem with the Large plots because they can store more water, but small plots ran very quickly out of water.
And don´t tell me now there is no reason to use small plots, because you don´t get more of the large once. Growing narcos in large plots is a wast ;)

[BigDally]

http://ark.gamepedia.com/Compost_Bin

[Frutz]

Originally posted by Telerion:

Originally posted by BG79:

Another thing I am scratching my head about is I don't get the point of irrigation. I have never had my plots run out of water from just simply the rain alone. I start off my plots when they're first planted with two waterskin's worth of water and I never have to fuss about their water from that point on. One of my tribemates screwed around with irrigation near some of the plots and it caused a few of them to be irrigated and there was no increase in yield, or speed of yield. I am just not seeing a point at all unless I am missing something. It seems like people go crazy making irrigation systems that are really unneeded for their farms.

Well, your crops will "degenerate" from Fruitling to Growling to midling and so on if they dont get fertilized OR watered over a longer time. I don´t have the exact time for that, but it happen. I once came back to my base and the irrigation system was broken, all crops had no water anymore and they all degenerated to "Midling". Yu don´t have this problem with the Large plots because they can store more water, but small plots ran very quickly out of water.
And don´t tell me now there is no reason to use small plots, because you don´t get more of the large once. Growing narcos in large plots is a wast ;)

I have never had my crops run out of water. I know full well about their regression because I DO run out of fertilizers because it seems I am the only one in my tribe who bothers to tend to them. But once I put that initial supply of water in the crops the rain tops them off well before they ever get close to zero. And I have mostly small plots too for the narco's with 4 large plots for the rare seeds.

Unless different parts of the map have completely different rain levels I am not sure what to make of it. I have set up farms now in 3 different locations and two of them completely across the map and still havent had an issue with rain providing more than enough water. Now I do NOT want that to mean they need to nerf rain or it's effect on a farm plot. But what I would like to see is that say if the crops are irrigated they grow a little faster.

Actually, I'd love a system where they do away with the whole crop regression thing and make fertilizer a boost rather than a requirement. Have it so your crop grows normally and have it check if you have fertilizer give it a x2 boost, and if you have irrigation give it another x2 boost. So the person who sets it up that way has the most efficient use of farm that they can get and the person who while 12 hours away from the game has it run out of fertilizer doesnt come back to their damn plant reverting all the way to seedling stage.

[Telerion]

Maybe it was bad luck, a dry season or a bug, but after i saw my plants are down, i never want that to happen again (takes so long for them to grow).
But i really like the idea of the boost if you actually take care of your crops. Makes the gameplay different, with more "jobs" then just splitting the engrams over two ppl.

[A Big Hairy Monster]

7 bins to 12 plots? You're doing something wrong for sure. 2 bins should be enough for like a dozen plots. One bag of fertilizer lasts what, 6-8 hours IRL? and takes maybe an hour to make a single one.

[Theduke]

I think legit my ratio was off thanks for the feedback guys seriously :) great discussion too

[Frutz]

I know with mine it's hard keeping up with a lot of fertlizer boxes. Having each one need at least 50 thatch and 3 poops (I was exclusively using medium poops but I have to try others) it made it hard for me to keep 4 running for my 12 plots. I had/have an easier time using 3 to make fertlizer and using the 4th to store extra crap to put in the other 3 in the proper ratios since crap lasts a lot longer in a compost bin than in any other container.

Butif you havent already been doing it just put the large poo directly into the farm plot, it's basically a waste of 50 thatch to convert it to fertlizer unless you're desperate to save slots in the individual farm plots.