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Minotaur Jun 16, 2015 @ 7:11pm
Mosasaurus vs Megalodon
So, I am curious as to why the dossier is making the comments about Mosasaurus as the apex sea predator. Makes no sense, if we're speaking from findings and scientific understandings.

The largest ever recorded or known Mosasaurus was 59feet. Megalodon's(a bit harder to get exact size measurements because of lack of bone, etc) are suggested to have been on average 50-55ft in length with large ones getting around 70feet(or more) in length. On top of this, scientists have suggested fairly recently that Megalodon's bite force was the greatest of all-time surpassing the t-rex(http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080805-shark-bite.html) ...

So, I know it's sort of stupid to even worry about, but the idea of the Megalodon playing second fiddle to any sea creature is awfully bizzare. Oh yeah, their models need to be much larger, still way under-sized.
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irondune Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:36am 
CONGRATS by making this thread: you have started an ancient discussion, with just non-scientific assumptions:
megalodon was a bit shorter than mosasaurus on average, but a bit bulkier.
a mosasaurus would be more dangerous due to higher speeds.
mega could bit harder, but the mosa could more easily aim their heads and succeed in biting.
indeed a mega is larger (measured in weigth) but it would be hardly the king of the ocean...

if a mega would lay eyes on a mosa, he would first have to bite it, which would be difficult for such a large beast, while the mosa could easily dodge a bite, and just play around with the slow shark until it decides to close in for the kill.

the ingame megalodon is a correct size.
the ingame mosasaurus is way oversized.
now we are all happy and we can abandon this thread.

Last edited by irondune; Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:39am
RobsterCraw Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Whiplash:
Originally posted by Shaboii_Will:
The reason that the Megalodon is so undersized is because it is not Carcharodon megalodon (The species that existed on Earth) but is rather Carcharodon ultramegalodon, a species that happens to be much smaller than the Earth species and lives solely on ARK. This is the reason all the creatures seem inaccurate, they are not the same species as the ones on Earth, rather they are under the same genus.

I hope they actually do come up with a good, solid story that explains why this place is populated with non-realistic, hybrid species. I can overlook lots of stuff, but I always prefer with lore and story make some kind of sense. I hope there is an actual good and interesting explanation and lore to all this in the long run.

They already have.
leefnmajors Oct 14, 2015 @ 10:20am 
This is a really old necro if you didn't notice, btw.
Bad Brad Oct 14, 2015 @ 10:25am 
+1

The Megalodon is the superior creature as evidenced by the fact that it's sucessors are still thriving today. It's hard to improve upon perfection.
Liavain Axon Oct 14, 2015 @ 11:24am 
We can argue forever on the sizes of creatures, why they look different, or why they don't behave like they should, but it is futile. This world has a backstory. The backstory has all these creatures jumbled together from different eras and modified. Each creature has been changed from its real world counterpart not only to make them cooler, but to fit someone's re-imagining of the creature to fit a new purpose or to "improve" them in some way.

This is just some beings' giant science experiment.

I know how people feel when a creature they like doesn't live up to their vision of it, but all we can do is offer -constructive- criticism instead of whining. The Devs are changing creatures to fit their game and perceived niches for each creature.

Balance is the end-goal, content (and coolness) is the current goal.
Minotaur Oct 14, 2015 @ 9:12pm 
Well, I mean Megalodon's are the all-time(as far as we know) alphas of the seas and right now they're behind the Plesiosaurus and now the Mosasaurus in this game. Not right. Megalodon's are predicted by scientisits to have the strong bite force of any creature, ever. And they were just as big, or slightly smaller than any known sea specicies, so it's stupid how "average" they are.

Yes, this topic is old and whomever bumped it yesterday to make a ♥♥♥♥ argument is a moron.
Pebbles-chan Oct 15, 2015 @ 1:40pm 
Wow! when it's about megalodons everybody freak out!

when it's about Allosaurus being larger than Carno everybody is fine

how ssstrange!
Pebbles-chan Oct 15, 2015 @ 1:43pm 
ALSO, by the biting force

then Dunkleosteus, the smaller alpha of the seas should rule the seas of Ark

what is being discussed in here is just some miserable fanboyism running around, and Ark creatures are well known to be different counterparts of their real life counterparts
Gazzza Oct 15, 2015 @ 1:43pm 
this aint the question, the real question is the giganotosaurus, explain that one a-peoples
When the Tusoteuthis is released, are you prehistoric fanboys going to reanimate this pointless debate again?
Kaleckton Oct 15, 2015 @ 2:05pm 
--Most of the animals are not exact animals that existed on earth. Many of them are mutated or based off of animals that once walked the earth. Its impossible to know how each animal lived or acted like exactly so they kind of had to make a lot of it up or change it to suit the gameplay. Otherwise almost all of the dinos would be a lot more scary because their AI would be much much smarter or more dangerous. Im sure raptors would chase us across maps if they were accurate. They would also look different and have more feathers.
DB Oct 15, 2015 @ 2:15pm 
The worst thing is when people get the information about the actual animals wrong.
The worst is when people get the information about the actual animals wrong, because speculation and theory about animals no one was present to document is absolute fact.
Danny-NL Oct 15, 2015 @ 2:16pm 
dude its a game :steamfacepalm:
Kaleckton Oct 15, 2015 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by DinoBear:
The worst thing is when people get the information about the actual animals wrong.

have you ever seen any of these animals in game in real life to be able to prove that the information is false? Its impossible to be able to prove because we didn't live with them so our research mostlybased on guesses and assumptions that may be wrong or right but never proven one way or the other. Its all just a bunch of humans agreeing on what they think is right.
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